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The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: El Guerrero 2 on September 17, 2024, 03:47:09 PM
Calling it now, Zaide is my breakout prediction for this season. He had a very solid all around freshman season and the ceiling is the limit with his athletic ability.

Solid? He played like 10 minutes a game. It was fine and showed promise, but let's not overstate it here.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

El Guerrero 2

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on September 17, 2024, 03:50:13 PM
Solid? He played like 10 minutes a game. It was fine and showed promise, but let's not overstate it here.

Sorry for the extreme hyperbole.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: tower912 on September 17, 2024, 03:08:28 PM
If Owens can defend to Shaka's standards, he will play more.  Having a versatile 6'8 player is a great asset.   Sub in for Chase with the rest of the starters, and MU is suddenly almost big.   Ben, Owens, Chase, Zaide, Kam and you have a whole lot of speed and long arms.   Owens in the old OMax role as the point of the press.

I can see a whole lot of options going forward.  Don't get me started on the 25-26  combinations.   But can he defend on day one?

25-26 already has me insanely excited. I'm still nervous about this year with the lack of a clear PG role (and the idea of moving Kam into that rather than letting him run free on scoring).

But there's a lot of great pieces that will be fun to watch no matter what. I need a writeup of the scrimmage on Oct 5 or somethign to get a better sense of this team.
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Quote from: JakeBarnes on September 17, 2024, 05:01:01 PM
25-26 already has me insanely excited. I'm still nervous about this year with the lack of a clear PG role (and the idea of moving Kam into that rather than letting him run free on scoring).

But there's a lot of great pieces that will be fun to watch no matter what. I need a writeup of the scrimmage on Oct 5 or somethign to get a better sense of this team.

I don't think that Kam would be able to "run free on scoring" this year...not without Tyler and Oso. Even if Sean Jones comes back, Kam is likely going to more successful with the ball in his hands more often, creating for himself (and others).

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IrwinFletcher

Quote from: tower912 on September 16, 2024, 07:07:09 AM
So, has anything that you have seen or heard this summer changed your opinion?

I still think the starters will be Ben, David, Kam, Chase, Stevie.   I think Shaka stays with experienced starters.   

Trey, Zaide, Damarius, Caedin, Royce, in that order, is my best guess 6-10.   Again, experience first.   


Agree on the starting 5, but think that Jop and Chase need to show a step forward, or they could be replaced by DO/Royce and Tre/Zaide.

Can Jop become a more consistent and less streaky shooter?  Will he move the ball more or still be a black hole?
Can Chase show his 3-point shooting prowess be a real threat with 3-4 attempts/game?  Can he be effective off the dribble?

If BOTH of those things happen, look out.

Its DJOver

I would be amazed if a Senior and a Junior get "replaced" by a pair of Freshman/Sophomores. If the underclassmen earn more minutes, great, but barring injuries, we all know what the starting 5 will be, and they will all likely average 25+ mpg.
Quote from: nyg on May 13, 2024, 02:07:11 PM
I'll stick with my opinion on Gold.  He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Its DJOver on September 18, 2024, 08:15:10 AM
I would be amazed if a Senior and a Junior get "replaced" by a pair of Freshman/Sophomores.

Yeah, that's not happening.

They may get more back up minutes that we thought, but I feel pretty confident that Joplin starts every game next year and Chase likely to do the same...or at least get big time minutes off the bench.
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tower912

I thought that Chase was the most vulnerable starter.   Until I listened to Shaka on the podcast.

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Quote from: Its DJOver on September 18, 2024, 08:15:10 AM
I would be amazed if a Senior and a Junior get "replaced" by a pair of Freshman/Sophomores. If the underclassmen earn more minutes, great, but barring injuries, we all know what the starting 5 will be, and they will all likely average 25+ mpg.

I agree with this. This is also why I believe Zaide or Tre will be the first off the bench over Demarius, at least to start the season. Shaka values time spent with the team and earning your way on the court.

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dgies9156

I don't follow this off-season as close as some of you do, but I will suggest Cam, Chase and Ben are the core of the team.

Probably can count on the three of them for about 100 of the 200 minutes in a game.

Six or seven more of our team will be competing for the remaining 100 minutes a game. I don't doubt Stevie and David will start but by the end of the season, I suspect Tre and maybe Owens or Hamilton and possibly Zaide will be break-out players.

Odd man out -- Al Amadou, which is too bad because I really like him. I truly hope I am wrong.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: dgies9156 on September 18, 2024, 09:27:07 PM
I don't follow this off-season as close as some of you do, but I will suggest Cam, Chase and Ben are the core of the team.

Probably can count on the three of them for about 100 of the 200 minutes in a game.

Six or seven more of our team will be competing for the remaining 100 minutes a game. I don't doubt Stevie and David will start but by the end of the season, I suspect Tre and maybe Owens or Hamilton and possibly Zaide will be break-out players.

Odd man out -- Al Amadou, which is too bad because I really like him. I truly hope I am wrong.

From walk on, to 33ish minutes per game the next season

Hollywood is licking their chops for this script.
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Hards Alumni

Quote from: dgies9156 on September 18, 2024, 09:27:07 PM
I don't follow this off-season as close as some of you do, but I will suggest Cam, Chase and Ben are the core of the team.

Probably can count on the three of them for about 100 of the 200 minutes in a game.

Six or seven more of our team will be competing for the remaining 100 minutes a game. I don't doubt Stevie and David will start but by the end of the season, I suspect Tre and maybe Owens or Hamilton and possibly Zaide will be break-out players.

Odd man out -- Al Amadou, which is too bad because I really like him. I truly hope I am wrong.

If you think Stevie Mitchell is going to be out of the starting lineup or be playing less than 35 min a game, you're nuts.

Its DJOver

Quote from: Hards Alumni on September 19, 2024, 06:51:03 AM
If you think Stevie Mitchell is going to be out of the starting lineup or be playing less than 35 min a game, you're nuts.

You mean 25 right? There has yet to be a player here under Shaka that averages 35+ mpg.
Quote from: nyg on May 13, 2024, 02:07:11 PM
I'll stick with my opinion on Gold.  He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Its DJOver on September 19, 2024, 07:00:47 AM
You mean 25 right? There has yet to be a player here under Shaka that averages 35+ mpg.

I'll walk it back to 30.  I think he is going to be as important as Kam. 

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Man, I can't believe there are still Scoopers who don't understand what Mitchell does for this team.
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Its DJOver

Quote from: Hards Alumni on September 19, 2024, 07:09:28 AM
I'll walk it back to 30.  I think he is going to be as important as Kam.

North of 30 wouldn't surprise me, but I can also see scenarios where Kam is the only one 30+.

I think you can go ahead and lock in every starter for at least 25 though.  Chase would need all of a 4 mpg bump to get there and Ben would need 9, which isn't all that much since Oso's 32 are gone and his backups rn are a true Freshman, a RS Freshman or small Ball Jop.
Quote from: nyg on May 13, 2024, 02:07:11 PM
I'll stick with my opinion on Gold.  He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: Its DJOver on September 19, 2024, 07:58:41 AM
North of 30 wouldn't surprise me, but I can also see scenarios where Kam is the only one 30+.

I think you can go ahead and lock in every starter for at least 25 though.  Chase would need all of a 4 mpg bump to get there and Ben would need 9, which isn't all that much since Oso's 32 are gone and his backups rn are a true Freshman, a RS Freshman or small Ball Jop.
Is that really necessary?  What an insult!

Hards Alumni

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on September 19, 2024, 07:54:56 AM
Man, I can't believe there are still Scoopers who don't understand what Mitchell does for this team.

Yep, we were very lucky last year he was only out a couple of games and those games were against 3 bad teams and the loss @Providence.

Jay Bee

Quote from: Hards Alumni on September 19, 2024, 06:51:03 AM
If you think Stevie Mitchell is going to be out of the starting lineup or be playing less than 35 min a game, you're nuts.

I'm nuts! I'll give you 10-1 odds. $20 to me if Stevie averages less than 35 min / game. $200 to you if he's over. Are you in?
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Hards Alumni

Quote from: Jay Bee on September 19, 2024, 08:32:30 AM
I'm nuts! I'll give you 10-1 odds. $20 to me if Stevie averages less than 35 min / game. $200 to you if he's over. Are you in?

Well, I walked it back to 30+, still want to go?

Its DJOver

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on September 19, 2024, 07:54:56 AM
Man, I can't believe there are still Scoopers who don't understand what Mitchell does for this team.

He's important, but if we have the depth that some seem to think we'll have, I could see his minutes staying in line with what they were last year.

Kam 30
Stevie 25
Jop 25
Ben 25
Chase 25
Tre 15
Zaide 15
Hamilton 15
Owens 10
Royce 10
Al 5
Sean 0
Clark 0
Quote from: nyg on May 13, 2024, 02:07:11 PM
I'll stick with my opinion on Gold.  He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

I was mostly responding to dgies saying that Kam, Chase and Ben are the core of the team. I have no idea if Mitchell is going to play 25 or 30, and I don't frankly care. But Mitchell (and Jop) is more of a "core" member than two guys who only really started due to injury the past couple of seasons.
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