Starting line ups/rotations 24-25

[The Sultan]

Calling it now, Zaide is my breakout prediction for this season. He had a very solid all around freshman season and the ceiling is the limit with his athletic ability.

Solid? He played like 10 minutes a game. It was fine and showed promise, but let's not overstate it here.

[El Guerrero 2]

Solid? He played like 10 minutes a game. It was fine and showed promise, but let's not overstate it here.

Sorry for the extreme hyperbole.

[JakeBarnes]

If Owens can defend to Shaka's standards, he will play more.  Having a versatile 6'8 player is a great asset.   Sub in for Chase with the rest of the starters, and MU is suddenly almost big.   Ben, Owens, Chase, Zaide, Kam and you have a whole lot of speed and long arms.   Owens in the old OMax role as the point of the press.

I can see a whole lot of options going forward.  Don't get me started on the 25-26  combinations.   But can he defend on day one?

25-26 already has me insanely excited. I'm still nervous about this year with the lack of a clear PG role (and the idea of moving Kam into that rather than letting him run free on scoring).

But there's a lot of great pieces that will be fun to watch no matter what. I need a writeup of the scrimmage on Oct 5 or somethign to get a better sense of this team.

[mug644]

25-26 already has me insanely excited. I'm still nervous about this year with the lack of a clear PG role (and the idea of moving Kam into that rather than letting him run free on scoring).

But there's a lot of great pieces that will be fun to watch no matter what. I need a writeup of the scrimmage on Oct 5 or somethign to get a better sense of this team.

I don't think that Kam would be able to "run free on scoring" this year...not without Tyler and Oso. Even if Sean Jones comes back, Kam is likely going to more successful with the ball in his hands more often, creating for himself (and others).

[#UnleashSean]

100% agree on sean.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Tre seems to think DO will be playing PG this year: https://247sports.com/college/marquette/article/our-interview-series-continues-soph-pg-tre-norman-comments-about-his-summer-workouts-and-his-new-teammates-236406514/

That's interesting both because it would be awesome to throw a 6-8 athlete on Hassan Diarra and because it suggests we won't be seaming Sean for awhile.

https://painttouches.com/2024/08/02/quick-impressions-from-the-first-open-practice-of-2024/

[IrwinFletcher]

So, has anything that you have seen or heard this summer changed your opinion?

I still think the starters will be Ben, David, Kam, Chase, Stevie.   I think Shaka stays with experienced starters.   

Trey, Zaide, Damarius, Caedin, Royce, in that order, is my best guess 6-10.   Again, experience first.   

Agree on the starting 5, but think that Jop and Chase need to show a step forward, or they could be replaced by DO/Royce and Tre/Zaide.

Can Jop become a more consistent and less streaky shooter?  Will he move the ball more or still be a black hole?
Can Chase show his 3-point shooting prowess be a real threat with 3-4 attempts/game?  Can he be effective off the dribble?

If BOTH of those things happen, look out.

[Its DJOver]

I would be amazed if a Senior and a Junior get "replaced" by a pair of Freshman/Sophomores. If the underclassmen earn more minutes, great, but barring injuries, we all know what the starting 5 will be, and they will all likely average 25+ mpg.

[The Sultan]

I would be amazed if a Senior and a Junior get "replaced" by a pair of Freshman/Sophomores.

Yeah, that's not happening.

They may get more back up minutes that we thought, but I feel pretty confident that Joplin starts every game next year and Chase likely to do the same...or at least get big time minutes off the bench.

[tower912]

I thought that Chase was the most vulnerable starter.   Until I listened to Shaka on the podcast.

[MUbiz]

I would be amazed if a Senior and a Junior get "replaced" by a pair of Freshman/Sophomores. If the underclassmen earn more minutes, great, but barring injuries, we all know what the starting 5 will be, and they will all likely average 25+ mpg.

I agree with this. This is also why I believe Zaide or Tre will be the first off the bench over Demarius, at least to start the season. Shaka values time spent with the team and earning your way on the court.

[Jay Bee]

"We need a TRUE PG!!" - Scooper's rallying cry in 2024-25

[dgies9156]

I don't follow this off-season as close as some of you do, but I will suggest Cam, Chase and Ben are the core of the team.

Probably can count on the three of them for about 100 of the 200 minutes in a game.

Six or seven more of our team will be competing for the remaining 100 minutes a game. I don't doubt Stevie and David will start but by the end of the season, I suspect Tre and maybe Owens or Hamilton and possibly Zaide will be break-out players.

Odd man out -- Al Amadou, which is too bad because I really like him. I truly hope I am wrong.

[PGsHeroes32]

I don't follow this off-season as close as some of you do, but I will suggest Cam, Chase and Ben are the core of the team.

Probably can count on the three of them for about 100 of the 200 minutes in a game.

Six or seven more of our team will be competing for the remaining 100 minutes a game. I don't doubt Stevie and David will start but by the end of the season, I suspect Tre and maybe Owens or Hamilton and possibly Zaide will be break-out players.

Odd man out -- Al Amadou, which is too bad because I really like him. I truly hope I am wrong.

From walk on, to 33ish minutes per game the next season

Hollywood is licking their chops for this script.

[Hards Alumni]

I don't follow this off-season as close as some of you do, but I will suggest Cam, Chase and Ben are the core of the team.

Probably can count on the three of them for about 100 of the 200 minutes in a game.

Six or seven more of our team will be competing for the remaining 100 minutes a game. I don't doubt Stevie and David will start but by the end of the season, I suspect Tre and maybe Owens or Hamilton and possibly Zaide will be break-out players.

Odd man out -- Al Amadou, which is too bad because I really like him. I truly hope I am wrong.

If you think Stevie Mitchell is going to be out of the starting lineup or be playing less than 35 min a game, you're nuts.

[Its DJOver]

If you think Stevie Mitchell is going to be out of the starting lineup or be playing less than 35 min a game, you're nuts.

You mean 25 right? There has yet to be a player here under Shaka that averages 35+ mpg.

[Hards Alumni]

You mean 25 right? There has yet to be a player here under Shaka that averages 35+ mpg.

I'll walk it back to 30.  I think he is going to be as important as Kam. 

[The Sultan]

Man, I can't believe there are still Scoopers who don't understand what Mitchell does for this team.

[Its DJOver]

I'll walk it back to 30.  I think he is going to be as important as Kam.

North of 30 wouldn't surprise me, but I can also see scenarios where Kam is the only one 30+.

I think you can go ahead and lock in every starter for at least 25 though.  Chase would need all of a 4 mpg bump to get there and Ben would need 9, which isn't all that much since Oso's 32 are gone and his backups rn are a true Freshman, a RS Freshman or small Ball Jop.

[ATL MU Warrior]

North of 30 wouldn't surprise me, but I can also see scenarios where Kam is the only one 30+.

I think you can go ahead and lock in every starter for at least 25 though.  Chase would need all of a 4 mpg bump to get there and Ben would need 9, which isn't all that much since Oso's 32 are gone and his backups rn are a true Freshman, a RS Freshman or small Ball Jop.

Is that really necessary?  What an insult!

[Hards Alumni]

Man, I can't believe there are still Scoopers who don't understand what Mitchell does for this team.

Yep, we were very lucky last year he was only out a couple of games and those games were against 3 bad teams and the loss @Providence.

[Jay Bee]

If you think Stevie Mitchell is going to be out of the starting lineup or be playing less than 35 min a game, you're nuts.

I'm nuts! I'll give you 10-1 odds. $20 to me if Stevie averages less than 35 min / game. $200 to you if he's over. Are you in?

[Hards Alumni]

I'm nuts! I'll give you 10-1 odds. $20 to me if Stevie averages less than 35 min / game. $200 to you if he's over. Are you in?

Well, I walked it back to 30+, still want to go?

[Its DJOver]

Man, I can't believe there are still Scoopers who don't understand what Mitchell does for this team.

He's important, but if we have the depth that some seem to think we'll have, I could see his minutes staying in line with what they were last year.

Kam 30
Stevie 25
Jop 25
Ben 25
Chase 25
Tre 15
Zaide 15
Hamilton 15
Owens 10
Royce 10
Al 5
Sean 0
Clark 0

[The Sultan]

I was mostly responding to dgies saying that Kam, Chase and Ben are the core of the team. I have no idea if Mitchell is going to play 25 or 30, and I don't frankly care. But Mitchell (and Jop) is more of a "core" member than two guys who only really started due to injury the past couple of seasons.