Quite The Juxtaposition

[Uncle Rico]

Don't follow baseball....but I bet my house that many MLB players can sign one year contracts and demand a trade anytime they freaking want.  6 year stuff would be negotiated by the union I'm sure. Love the no trade clause comment as well...my lord man...have some common sense.  A no trade clause isn't there at the teams request...

The fault of unregulated NIL has to do with the incompetence of the NCAA and willful ignorance of its member institutes. 

Tower has asked those blaming NIL for all the woes in college sports for a way to regulate and fix it but instead, they've derailed the topic over pedantic language BS.  It's because they don't have solutions.  Blame the athletes and change the subject to unimportant points.

[wadesworld]

What are your thoughts on salary caps in pro sports?  Should the NCAA enact salary caps?  Is parity good or bad in professional/college sports? 

In my opinion parity is good, and is what generates the most interest in sports and subsequent revenue for the players.  If there were no salary caps professional football wouldn't have nearly the interest - Green Bay wouldn't stand a chance.  Major league baseball had to modify its structure to give small market teams like Milwaukee some fighting chance at success.

If you have a system that will bear out a handful of teams that are always good because they can pay the most and buy a roster, it diminishes broad interest.  Sports are physical competitions that involve on court/field strategy, yet you can have the best strategy and coaching, but if your talent (athleticism/skill) isn't good - you can't thrive.

I like parity, but I think you're way off on this if you think that's what's best for sports and what most sports fans like.

The MLB would kill for a Yankees/Dodgers WS every year. The NBA would kill for a C's/Lakers Finals every year. The NFL would kill for a Cowboys/Pats (or whoever) SB every year.

[The Sultan]

Look, I know part of your whole stalking thing includes making comments that have zero to do with what I or the person I replied to were talking about. But I really think you should stop.

So so mad.

[Uncle Rico]

I like parity, but I think you're way off on this if you think that's what's best for sports and what most sports fans like.

The MLB would kill for a Yankees/Dodgers WS every year. The NBA would kill for a C's/Lakers Finals every year. The NFL would kill for a Cowboys/Pats (or whoever) SB every year.

In 23 years this century, there have been 13 football champions in D1.  Same with hoops.

Parity is a myth.

[Lennys Tap]

So so mad.

Happiest guy around. Your continued dishonesty towards me neither surprises me nor angers me. Would I prefer you give up your obsessive stalking? Yes. Does it mess with my happy? No.

[Lennys Tap]

The fault of unregulated NIL has to do with the incompetence of the NCAA and willful ignorance of its member institutes. 

Tower has asked those blaming NIL for all the woes in college sports for a way to regulate and fix it but instead, they've derailed the topic over pedantic language BS.  It's because they don't have solutions.  Blame the athletes and change the subject to unimportant points.

? Avid isn't talking about NIL, unregulated or otherwise. He's talking about MLB, NHL, NBA and NFL players.

Other than that I don't disagree.

[Uncle Rico]

? Avid isn't talking about NIL, unregulated or otherwise. He's talking about MLB, NHL, NBA and NFL players.

Other than that I don't disagree.

So, you didn't read Avid's other posts

[Lennys Tap]

A google search of mlb players with 1 year contracts revealed plenty.  Nothing would ever stop a player from demanding a trade...helped the Brewers get Yelich.  And seeing as we are talking about players being able to leave anytime they want...a no trade clause (which apparently everyone in the world but you realizes) is at the request of the player not the team.

Of course there are a lot of one year contracts in baseball. What does that have to do with anything regarding player's rights to demand a trade? (Answer: Nothing) as guy in his first, second, third, fourth or fifth year on a one year contract has 2 choices at the end of the season - sign another contract with the team he is with or not play baseball the following year. "Demands" for a trade would be met with laughter. When a guy approaches free agency, the teams can decide from a number of possibilities what to do with the player. Sign him to another 1 year contract, sign him to a multi year contract, let him sign elsewhere and be compensated with a draft choice or (finally) trade him. But the player isn't traded because he can "demand" it. He can't. He's traded because his team decides that's their best option.

[Lennys Tap]

So, you didn't read Avid's other posts

I replied only to the one referring to professional athletes. Which was also the one that you replied to.

[Jay Bee]

In 23 years this century, there have been 13 football champions in D1.  Same with hoops.

Parity is a myth.

Crapshoot, dipsh1t

[The Sultan]

Happiest guy around. Your continued dishonesty towards me neither surprises me nor angers me. Would I prefer you give up your obsessive stalking? Yes. Does it mess with my happy? No.

Liar.

[avid1010]

? Avid isn't talking about NIL, unregulated or otherwise. He's talking about MLB, NHL, NBA and NFL players.

Other than that I don't disagree.

No, Lenny, you brought up pro sports when you said pro athletes can't go from team to team like college athletes can. 

I simply stated that is not the case.  The majority of pro athletes can sign 1 year contracts if they so choose.  If they can't, it's because their union bargained and agreed otherwise.

It was a lazy argument on your behalf.  It would be like me saying college athletes in their last year of eligibility can't transfer or they can't leave mid-year and play in the same year...no sh1t.

While I don't follow baseball, a quick search of MLB players demanding a trade showed Yelich did so to get out of Miami and landed in MKE.  I do follow the NBA, and guys like Harden have repeatedly played that game.

You brought up the "no trade" clauses, which had nothing to do with the argument as they keep players in a location at the players request, yet you are upset players are leaving?   The whole purpose of the no-trade clause is for pro athletes to have some protection from getting tossed around every year...yet you mention it in an argument against players being able to move?  Colleges were never giving 4 year scholarships.

At this point I'm not even sure you know the difference between transfer rules and NIL in the college landscape. 

[The Sultan]

No, Lenny, you brought up pro sports when you said pro athletes can't go from team to team like college athletes can. 

I simply stated that is not the case.  The majority of pro athletes can sign 1 year contracts if they so choose.  If they can't, it's because their union bargained and agreed otherwise.

It was a lazy argument on your behalf.  It would be like me saying college athletes in their last year of eligibility can't transfer or they can't leave mid-year and play in the same year...no sh1t.

While I don't follow baseball, a quick search of MLB players demanding a trade showed Yelich did so to get out of Miami and landed in MKE.  I do follow the NBA, and guys like Harden have repeatedly played that game.

You brought up the "no trade" clauses, which had nothing to do with the argument as they keep players in a location at the players request, yet you are upset players are leaving?   The whole purpose of the no-trade clause is for pro athletes to have some protection from getting tossed around every year...yet you mention it in an argument against players being able to move?  Colleges were never giving 4 year scholarships.

At this point I'm not even sure you know the difference between transfer rules and NIL in the college landscape. 

lol. Exactly.

[Uncle Rico]

Crapshoot, dipsh1t

You misspelled a word and used the number 1 instead of the letter I. 

[Pakuni]

I like parity, but I think you're way off on this if you think that's what's best for sports and what most sports fans like.

The MLB would kill for a Yankees/Dodgers WS every year. The NBA would kill for a C's/Lakers Finals every year. The NFL would kill for a Cowboys/Pats (or whoever) SB every year.

This doesn't seem true, given that all of these leagues have taken actions to blunt the inherent advantages of the big-market teams and to make dynastic success more difficult. Salary caps and luxury taxes mainly exist to artificially depress player   compensation, but they also have the effect of creating more competitive balance.
The TV networks may kill for those matchups, but the leagues' behavior is to the contrary.

[The Sultan]

This doesn't seem true, given that all of these leagues have taken actions to blunt the inherent advantages of the big-market teams and to make dynastic success more difficult. Salary caps and luxury taxes mainly exist to artificially depress player   compensation, but they also have the effect of creating more competitive balance.
The TV networks may kill for those matchups, but the leagues' behavior is to the contrary.

That's because there are more owners that aren't large market teams. 

And it's the networks, rather than the leagues, that want those match ups anyway.

[Johnny B]

Nerd said juxtapose

[muwarrior69]

You want to artifically limit how much someone can make in the free maket? Better get that Commie crap out of my Murica comrade Rocket surgeon

When states and the Feds tell businesses what the minimum cost of labor must be that is not a free market.

[tower912]

It looks like some of you want to go full Agatha Christie when it comes to paying student athletes.



Murder on the NIL.


Or, de-NIL isn't just a river in Egypt.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

When states and the Feds tell businesses what the minimum cost of labor must be that is not a free market.

So you acknowledge that the united states has never had a fully capitalist economy? Interesting

[The Sultan]

so...college ball is for pros not good enough to go...pro? Hey, you're a pro...well sort of...so get paid AND be on scholarship...attend class, of course... because you know, you're a pro... but not really.  Got it.

Why do you care that college athletes are paid? Does that lessen your enjoyment of the game?

[tower912]

And, how is this different than before when the money was coming in under the table?

[lawdog77]

Why do you care that college athletes are paid? Does that lessen your enjoyment of the game?

Why do you care that he cares?

[The Sultan]

Why do you care that he cares?

He posted it on a message board. Isn't the point of a message board to post and debate opinions on various topics?

[Jay Bee]

You misspelled a word and used the number 1 instead of the letter I.

U r a number 2 doo doo face