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Go Oso
« on: June 27, 2024, 04:06:58 PM »
Great for him going to Portland.

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Re: Go Oso
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2024, 04:09:30 PM »
Phoenix actually……he’s going home

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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2024, 04:10:23 PM »
Love where both guys wound up.
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« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2024, 04:13:14 PM »
Kolek and Oso both drafted by Portland but traded away.

We were on the verge of greatness.  We were this close.

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« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2024, 04:15:12 PM »
Congratulations, Oso.
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2024, 04:17:17 PM »
So happy for Oso. Really excited to see him at the next level. It's not gonna be easy, but he's got the grind and work ethic to succeed.
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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2024, 04:22:22 PM »
Ugh.  Was hoping he wouldn’t get picked after the way he played in March
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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2024, 04:25:46 PM »
Should've come back.
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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2024, 04:28:32 PM »
Ugh.  Was hoping he wouldn’t get picked after the way he played in March

He'll fit right in with the Suns. They're used to postseason fades.

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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2024, 04:28:49 PM »
Excellent!

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« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2024, 05:19:00 PM »
Not a marquette player, superbar

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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2024, 05:24:57 PM »
I look forward to following the Phoenix Osos

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« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2024, 05:27:48 PM »
It’s nice to go home, Oso. Now make us proud.

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« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2024, 05:34:35 PM »
It’s nice to go home, Oso. Now make us proud.

Amen!!!

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« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2024, 06:18:32 PM »
Vecenie and Hollinger on the Suns drafting Oso:

Oso Ighodaro was one of my favorite players to watch in college basketball over the last two years. His blend of ingenious playmaking and pristine synergy with Tyler Kolek in ball screens was a sight to behold. He was constantly communicating with his teammates and helping them get into the right spots. He’s an incredible passer from all areas of the court, and I’m not sure I saw someone as dynamic in screens, re-screens, handoffs and all the little ways big men help their guards get loose on the perimeter. He also moves his feet well and was useful on defense. Yet, I just couldn’t quite get there for his NBA projection because of his lack of size and strength. Bigs in the NBA are physical. They move big players around like it’s nothing. Additionally, the players in Ighodaro’s archetype — interior scorer and passer — that tend to work (think Jokić, Sabonis, even Nikola Vučević) tend to be of the much more physical, strong types as opposed to the finesse types. I ended up with a second-round grade and see him on the borderline of being worth a guaranteed contract or a two-way contract.

Hollinger’s analysis: Ighodaro was one of my favorite sleepers in this draft, and he’s an Arizona native who gets to come home and join the Suns. With his ability to pass from the elbows and switch onto the perimeter defensively, I think he is capable of playing backup five minutes immediately, although he doesn’t do some of the “traditional” big things (rebound, block shots) at a super high level.
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« Reply #15 on: June 27, 2024, 06:38:52 PM »
So pumped for Oso. Going to his hometown. I think he is going to do very well.
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« Reply #16 on: June 27, 2024, 07:31:31 PM »
Maybe he can carry Durant to a title.

Booker couldn't do it.

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« Reply #17 on: June 27, 2024, 09:44:22 PM »
Congratulations to Oso.

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« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2024, 05:47:25 AM »
Ugh.  Was hoping he wouldn’t get picked after the way he played in March

Once I saw Oso show up in New York I stopped worrying.  Oso ( and Tyler) both signed with great agents who are plugged in.   They knew where their floor was in this draft.  Neither would have gone to NYC if being drafted wasn’t guaranteed.
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« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2024, 06:00:16 AM »
What other school allows you to watch two players develop at a truly amazing rate for multiple years, who both have engaging personalities, under a complete class-act coach, while winning the BEAST, BEAST tourney, and a SW16.  Then we got to watch them get what they deserve...drafted into the NBA.  Was a fun ride to watch those two...we're so fortunate from a CBB standpoint for the resurgence of MU Bball.  They had a lot to do with it.

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« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2024, 06:58:51 AM »
What other school allows you to watch two players develop at a truly amazing rate for multiple years, who both have engaging personalities, under a complete class-act coach, while winning the BEAST, BEAST tourney, and a SW16.  Then we got to watch them get what they deserve...drafted into the NBA.  Was a fun ride to watch those two...we're so fortunate from a CBB standpoint for the resurgence of MU Bball.  They had a lot to do with it.

Great post. Well said.

I'll enjoy watching TK and Oso compete in NBA games for years to come.
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« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2024, 07:29:14 AM »
Once I saw Oso show up in New York I stopped worrying.  Oso ( and Tyler) both signed with great agents who are plugged in.   They knew where their floor was in this draft.  Neither would have gone to NYC if being drafted wasn’t guaranteed.

Phoenix lost to the Bucks in the Finals and the Bucks suck.  Phoenix doesn’t know ball.
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« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2024, 07:38:08 AM »
Phoenix lost to the Bucks in the Finals and the Bucks suck.  Phoenix doesn’t know ball.

Personally I stopped following the NBA when they wore Black Lives Matters tee shirts — so I don’t know which teams are good. Well, I assume they’re all bad.
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« Reply #23 on: June 28, 2024, 07:39:33 AM »
Personally I stopped following the NBA when they wore Black Lives Matters tee shirts — so I don’t know which teams are good. Well, I assume they’re all bad.

Don’t blame you.  I hate watch mostly
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« Reply #24 on: June 28, 2024, 08:28:59 AM »
Watching the Sun's fandom go from heartbreak when they missed on Tyler to joy when they got Oso was great.

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« Reply #25 on: June 28, 2024, 09:21:11 AM »
What other school allows you to watch two players develop at a truly amazing rate for multiple years, who both have engaging personalities, under a complete class-act coach, while winning the BEAST, BEAST tourney, and a SW16.  Then we got to watch them get what they deserve...drafted into the NBA.  Was a fun ride to watch those two...we're so fortunate from a CBB standpoint for the resurgence of MU Bball.  They had a lot to do with it.

Nova under Jay?
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« Reply #26 on: June 28, 2024, 09:52:22 AM »
Nova under Jay?
Loved those teams.  Not that Shaka has had that kind of success but doing it his way with NIL and the portal taking over makes it all the more impressive.
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« Reply #27 on: June 28, 2024, 09:53:16 AM »
Personally I stopped following the NBA when they wore Black Lives Matters tee shirts — so I don’t know which teams are good. Well, I assume they’re all bad.
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« Reply #28 on: June 28, 2024, 09:54:55 AM »
Don’t blame you.  I hate watch mostly
Hate watch Kerr and Pop at every chance...they disgust me.  I do enjoy pulling for Jerry and the Cowboys though...can always count on the NFL.

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« Reply #29 on: June 28, 2024, 10:01:03 AM »
Hate watch Kerr and Pop at every chance...they disgust me.  I do enjoy pulling for Jerry and the Cowboys though...can always count on the NFL.

NFL is woke, too.  Between the pink stuff and Rapperneck, I hate watch them, too, but luckily their ratings have tanked
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« Reply #30 on: June 28, 2024, 10:52:07 AM »
What other school allows you to watch two players develop at a truly amazing rate for multiple years, who both have engaging personalities, under a complete class-act coach, while winning the BEAST, BEAST tourney, and a SW16.  Then we got to watch them get what they deserve...drafted into the NBA.  Was a fun ride to watch those two...we're so fortunate from a CBB standpoint for the resurgence of MU Bball.  They had a lot to do with it.

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« Reply #31 on: June 28, 2024, 04:11:11 PM »
Oso’s Mom was being interviewed on Television today on WTMJ. Oso gets to play in the state he played high school basketball in and won a state championship correct

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« Reply #32 on: June 28, 2024, 04:23:12 PM »
Please stop discussing the player's mothers, it's untoward.

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« Reply #33 on: June 28, 2024, 04:24:52 PM »
It’s nice to go home, Oso. Now make us proud.

I’d love to see Oso (and Tyler) kill it in the NBA. But they’ve both already made us proud.

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« Reply #34 on: June 28, 2024, 08:25:58 PM »
Please stop discussing the player's mothers, it's untoward.
I think in this context it was perfectly toward

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« Reply #35 on: July 04, 2024, 03:03:24 PM »
Oso did just fine for himself…….nobody told the Suns about his NCAA Tournament performance……apparently

https://x.com/bobbymarks42/status/1808928333209510366?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw

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« Reply #36 on: July 04, 2024, 03:11:45 PM »
Oso did just fine for himself…….nobody told the Suns about his NCAA Tournament performance……apparently

https://x.com/bobbymarks42/status/1808928333209510366?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw

Oso got the Bronny James contract, and Kolek got a slightly bigger deal. They are all structured the same, though: four years, with the last year being a team option.

The Suns must like Oso not to put him on a 2-way.

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« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2024, 03:13:21 PM »
Oso did just fine for himself…….nobody told the Suns about his NCAA Tournament performance……apparently

https://x.com/bobbymarks42/status/1808928333209510366?s=61&t=6XPB8f4sAKmJIzxgMcsCjw

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« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2024, 03:42:13 PM »
I don’t follow the NBA that closely.  What is a two-way contract?

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« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2024, 04:42:36 PM »
Should have stayed in school for the NIL money.

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« Reply #41 on: July 04, 2024, 04:50:06 PM »
Should have stayed in school for the NIL money.
…..and work on that mid range jumper.  ::)

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« Reply #42 on: July 04, 2024, 05:51:27 PM »
They don’t know ball
shoulda called Gard for a consult. Gard knows ball.

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« Reply #43 on: July 04, 2024, 08:29:28 PM »
A good thing happened for a good guy.   Always knew he would be drafted.
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« Reply #44 on: July 04, 2024, 10:18:52 PM »
Sure seems like terrific rookie contracts for both Oso and TKO. Excited to see them at the next level.

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« Reply #45 on: July 04, 2024, 10:28:54 PM »
A good thing happened for a good guy.

Sums it up well.  Good for Oso. 

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« Reply #46 on: July 05, 2024, 04:10:40 AM »
shoulda called Gard for a consult. Gard knows ball.

You mistyped the word "ball" to "balls".....

Secondly Kolek with be working in NYC.  So welcome to a starting area of 34% min it taxes and probably more toward 40.....$hit....He will need a part time job.....
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« Reply #47 on: July 05, 2024, 08:17:39 AM »
You mistyped the word "ball" to "balls".....

Secondly Kolek with be working in NYC.  So welcome to a starting area of 34% min it taxes and probably more toward 40.....$hit....He will need a part time job.....

Yep, that's why nobody lives there anymore. I was surprised at the last census to see the population down to zero for NYC.
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« Reply #48 on: July 05, 2024, 08:47:12 AM »
You mistyped the word "ball" to "balls".....

Secondly Kolek with be working in NYC.  So welcome to a starting area of 34% min it taxes and probably more toward 40.....$hit....He will need a part time job.....

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« Reply #49 on: July 05, 2024, 09:15:50 AM »
He will need a part time job.....

That'll be hard to find for a guy who doesn't even know how to read.
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« Reply #50 on: July 05, 2024, 09:30:22 AM »
You mistyped the word "ball" to "balls".....

Secondly Kolek with be working in NYC.  So welcome to a starting area of 34% min it taxes and probably more toward 40.....$hit....He will need a part time job.....
TyKo will be spending a lot of time with Westchester Knicks and Knicks training facility is in Tarrytown. Can get a nice apartment in Greenwich ,CT on the water front be a CT resident ( still high taxes but a little lower) . Have an easy commute to Knicks practice  facility and take Metro North  into the city for MSG games.
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« Reply #51 on: July 05, 2024, 10:10:22 AM »
TyKo will be spending a lot of time with Westchester Knicks and Knicks training facility is in Tarrytown. Can get a nice apartment in Greenwich ,CT on the water front be a CT resident ( still high taxes but a little lower) . Have an easy commute to Knicks practice  facility and take Metro North  into the city for MSG games.

and that's still a better commute than having to live in the Phoenix area.
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« Reply #52 on: July 05, 2024, 10:14:11 AM »
Two of the highest paid second rounders? This will help recruiting
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« Reply #53 on: July 05, 2024, 10:47:55 AM »
and that's still a better commute than having to live in the Phoenix area.

Phoenix does have a pretty sweet Applebee’s
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« Reply #54 on: July 05, 2024, 10:58:55 AM »
Phoenix does have a pretty sweet Applebee’s

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« Reply #55 on: July 05, 2024, 11:10:40 AM »
They have more than one Uncle.

Just takes 45 min to get from one to the others if they're all out of reservations!

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« Reply #56 on: July 05, 2024, 11:21:38 AM »
They have more than one Uncle.

Oso going back to live large
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« Reply #57 on: July 05, 2024, 11:33:32 AM »
It’s gotta be a bitter pill to swallow that he could have earned that much more had he played better in the NCAAs. SMH.
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« Reply #58 on: July 05, 2024, 01:51:18 PM »
It’s gotta be a bitter pill to swallow that he could have earned that much more had he played better in the NCAAs. SMH.
And could be living in Milwaukee, which is cheaper and therefore better than New York.

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« Reply #59 on: July 05, 2024, 02:09:44 PM »
And could be living in Milwaukee, which is cheaper and therefore better than New York.

But obviously he'd be murdered trying to get to FISERV Forum.  Because anybody who attempts to get there or back gets shot.
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« Reply #60 on: July 07, 2024, 07:20:43 AM »
and that's still a better commute than having to live in the Phoenix area.

  why do you say this Billy?  I know oso is from Chandler which is south, southwest, but he could live in Tempe, Scottsdale or paradise valley and only be minutes away.  their training facility is on 44th and camelback road .  no need to get on the 101 which is notoriously crazy.  probably worse than the Dan Ryan up here
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« Reply #61 on: July 12, 2024, 12:04:00 PM »
Oso interview with the Suns play-by-play guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7zK8c4t90w