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lawdog77

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on July 12, 2024, 07:02:19 PM
How many times are going to be wrong in a day? You've already had a bad week.
Not sure, but I am not wrong here. The 2024 team is much better than the 2020 team. Except for Durant, the next 6 (at least) best players are on the 2024 team. LBJ,Curry, Edwards, AD, Embiid,2024 Tatum.

Not sure why you would thinks the talent is only "marginally" better, other than just to argue.

The Sultan

Quote from: lawdog77 on July 12, 2024, 07:08:02 PM
Not sure, but I am not wrong here. The 2024 team is much better than the 2020 team. Except for Durant, the next 6 (at least) best players are on the 2024 team. LBJ,Curry, Edwards, AD, Embiid,2024 Tatum.

Not sure why you would thinks the talent is only "marginally" better, other than just to argue.


You are dishonestly shifting goalposts. Go back and review your work.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

lawdog77

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on July 12, 2024, 07:09:35 PM

You are dishonestly shifting goalposts. Go back and review your work.
No shifting goalpoasts:
In summary: Muggsy said should win by 20+
Pakuni said recent history says otherwise
I chime in that we were sending our JV team the past couple times
You stated 2024 is not THAT much better
I show you where the talent discrepany is: 2020 only had 2 players make All NBA, 2024 has the Top 6 players after Durant.

The Sultan

Quote from: lawdog77 on July 12, 2024, 07:31:44 PM
I chime in that we were sending our JV team the past couple times

LOL, so you've now decided to use hyperbole to back up your dishonesty?

You should just limp away while you have some dignity to salvage.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on July 12, 2024, 07:01:36 PM
Ah. Shifting goalposts. I figured you'd find a way to wriggle out of a bad point.

Shifting goalposts? About what? I never said a word about the U.S. men's Olympic basketball team winning by or being favored by X amount of points. I never mentioned it.

I agreed with lawdog about the 2024 team simply having better personnel than the 2020 team did, and that's it.

I don't give a rat's rump that you disagree with me, but you don't have to lie about shifting goalposts. It's such a lazy (and in this case incorrect) thing to say.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

lawdog77

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on July 12, 2024, 07:44:13 PM
LOL, so you've now decided to use hyperbole to back up your dishonesty?

You should just limp away while you have some dignity to salvage.
Wow. Thought you were above insulting people.

The Sultan

Quote from: lawdog77 on July 12, 2024, 07:53:53 PM
Wow. Thought you were above insulting people.

Only those who are dishonest about what they said. And now you have what...tripled down?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

Quote from: MU82 on July 12, 2024, 07:52:39 PM
I don't give a rat's rump that you disagree with me, but you don't have to lie about shifting goalposts. It's such a lazy (and in this case incorrect) thing to say.

LOL, nope. You can't even follow your own arguments I guess.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

lawdog77

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on July 12, 2024, 07:55:19 PM
Only those who are dishonest about what they said. And now you have what...tripled down?
This is clearly going nowhere.

The Sultan

Quote from: lawdog77 on July 12, 2024, 07:57:29 PM
This is clearly going nowhere.

You finally flew the white flag that should have come out hours ago.

Congrats?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

lawdog77

Seriously, what are you arguing?

The Sultan

Quote from: lawdog77 on July 12, 2024, 08:14:27 PM
Seriously, what are you arguing?

Man. I thought you were done.

And now you can't even figure out what we're talking about?
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

lawdog77

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on July 12, 2024, 08:15:50 PM
Man. I thought you were done.

And now you can't even figure out what we're talking about?
I would say its the opposite. You seem to rather just call people liars and goalpost shifters instead of actually having a point. The only thing you have said of substance is that the 2024 is only marginally better. That is not a very good position. The evidence is to the contrary (number of All NBA players, a more balanced team, etc)

The Sultan

Quote from: lawdog77 on July 12, 2024, 08:22:22 PM
I would say its the opposite. You seem to rather just call people liars and goalpost shifters instead of actually having a point. The only thing you have said of substance is that the 2024 is only marginally better. That is not a very good position. The evidence is to the contrary (number of All NBA players, a more balanced team, etc)

Well not only are you wrong, you're dishonest about what you've been arguing.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

lawdog77

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on July 12, 2024, 08:24:35 PM
Well not only are you wrong, you're dishonest about what you've been arguing.
No. That is exactly what I am arguing. The 2024 team is much better, and except maybe France, they should beat every other team 15+

lawdog77

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on July 12, 2024, 08:24:35 PM
Well not only are you wrong, you're dishonest about what you've been arguing.
How am I wrong?

The Sultan

Quote from: lawdog77 on July 12, 2024, 08:30:01 PM
How am I wrong?

They are only marginally better. Better, but not enough to make a large enough difference in the outcome.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

lawdog77

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on July 12, 2024, 08:33:11 PM
They are only marginally better. Better, but not enough to make a large enough difference in the outcome.
you have offered no data to support that

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

lawdog77

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on July 12, 2024, 08:36:58 PM
I don't need to.
It's a message board,you don't "need" to do anything. Calling people dishonest for no reason is quite beneath you.

Pakuni

Quote from: lawdog77 on July 12, 2024, 03:47:41 PM
The self hate is being snarky calling it ol American arrogance.

Insisting that Team USA should win every game by 20+ while being ignorant to both history and the massive strides other countries have made over the past 20 years is American arrogance.
No snark required.

When Muggsy is your spirit animal, it might be time to reevaluate your arguments.

Pakuni

Quote from: lawdog77 on July 12, 2024, 08:48:48 PM
It's a message board,you don't "need" to do anything. Calling people dishonest for no reason is quite beneath you.

You would never do such a thing.

lawdog77

Quote from: Pakuni on July 12, 2024, 08:53:37 PM
Insisting that Team USA should win every game by 20+ while being ignorant to both history and the massive strides other countries have made over the past 20 years is American arrogance.
No snark required.

When Muggsy is your spirit animal, it might be time to reevaluate your arguments.
My.goodness you really like to insult people

Pakuni

#148
Quote from: lawdog77 on July 12, 2024, 08:56:48 PM
My.goodness you really like to insult people
Is this the same lawdog that calls people antisemites or did someone hack your account?

Anyhow, if you're insulted by someone pointing out that you and Muggsy think alike, that's a lawdog problem.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: lawdog77 on July 12, 2024, 08:48:48 PM
Calling people dishonest for no reason is quite beneath you.

Wut? It's one of his go to moves.

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