2024 Paris Olympics

[Hards Alumni]

  the problem as i've personally seen this with a family member, is that "they" promote these changes without enough scrutiny. there isn't enough professional intervention to help many of these people make good choices. 

is anyone held accountable for the failures?  if i'm a doctor and I am treating someone to transition and it fails, are they he'd to the same standard as a failure in any other medical procedure? 

the medical standards of care have not been established here, just as many of the same people tried to establish treatments and discount others for COVID.  there needs to be open and honest debate-this is how good science is established, for the time being anyway, but let's at least allow for clear eyed choices to be made

this is not something to be "experimented" with unless you agree with all the "underground" testing on humans done by for example, the nazis during wwII and the like

I have a niece, who is going thru some real difficult psychological issues.  part of her thinks or wants to be a male, which is fine, except if she were allowed to take the next step physically, even she isn't sure about that.  if she were to go ask for help on her own, the sentiment seems to overwhelming pull her to the side of hormone and physical surgeries which are irreversible.  it seems the "professional" is either reluctant to chime in or are chastised outright into silence leaving the "patient" only one choice...come on over, you'll feel so much better...huh??

I understand where you're coming from and I'm glad that you know that transitioning isn't a snap decision, nor is it an easy one.  And I also agree, (as do the majority of medical professionals) that the person who is considering transitioning consults with as many medical professionals as possible, including therapists.  Patients need to be on HRT for a while (years, usually) before any surgical procedure is performed.  Thanks for keeping an open mind about all of this.

[MuggsyB]

Alcaraz is something else.  His overall athleticism is perhaps on a different level than the Big 3.  When he limits his unforced errors, I'm not really sure what you do.   Sinner is capable but we may just be seeing a different cat. 

[MuggsyB]

Again, are you unfamiliar with how to use Google?

I don't care for Google. 

[jutaw22mu]

There is not a single post in your history here that suggests that you have empathy for them at all.  Your anti-gay and anti-trans beliefs shine through pretty clearly. And you use the "pro women's sports" as a red herring to legitimize those beliefs. Yet, to my knowledge, you have NEVER posted anything here that suggests you care about the inequities of women's sports at all.

I am definitely not anti-gay.  Nice try though.

You don't think that I am aware of the numerous inequities of women's sports (and care about them)?  I think I might have much more direct experience with that than you do, having personally experienced them, my dude.  I don't need to post about it to prove to you that I care or that it has affected me.  Ridiculous.

[The Sultan]

I am definitely not anti-gay.  Nice try though.

You don't think that I am aware of the numerous inequities of women's sports (and care about them)?  I think I might have much more direct experience with that than you do, having personally experienced them, my dude.  I don't need to post about it to prove to you that I care or that it has affected me.  Ridiculous.

You have no idea what my experiences are.

And I don't believe you.

[MuggsyB]

I think the Olympics could make 🏹 more entertaining. 

[jutaw22mu]

You have no idea what my experiences are.

And I don't believe you.

You have no idea what my experiences are.

And I don't care if some random dude on the internet believes me or not.

[Galway Eagle]

So how about that gold medalist from turkey in shooting? The memes are cracking me up.

I am definitely not anti-gay.  Nice try though.

No you just think they should shut up and take insults when people (who made a choice to pick and choose believes) insult them.

[The Sultan]

You have no idea what my experiences are.

And I don't care if some random dude on the internet believes me or not.

Sure.

[The Sultan]

Feels like the US men's soccer team could lose this thing pretty decisively.

[Galway Eagle]

Well darn. That should seal the deal.

[Galway Eagle]

Well darn. That should seal the deal.

And that's your double seal

[The Sultan]

Feels like the US men's soccer team could lose this thing pretty decisively.

Unfortunately I was correct.

[Hards Alumni]

And that's your double seal

A tradition unlike any other

[TSmith34, Inc.]

I don't care for Google.

Try Ecosia then. They donate a pair of lift shoes to a person under 5'5" every time you use their search engine (or something like that).

[Galway Eagle]

I don't care for Google.

RIP Ask Jeeves

[Lighthouse 84]

Too many posts to quote and comment on.

Trans people (nor anyone else for that matter) should not be discriminated against, but (a) it's a matter of fairness and safety, and (2) it's a big deal because the 99.9999999999999% of the population is being required to allow the .0000000000001%, who have a physical  advantage, to compete against the rest.  If a separate category shouldn't be created, then abolish the women's category and make it all open.

And, if it's no big deal and "trans women are women", why is it such a big deal to have the "first woman" anything? 

Standing up for the rights of women doesn't make a person anti-gay or anti-trans.  Good luck to you Jutaw.

[The Sultan]

And, if it's no big deal and "trans women are women", why is it such a big deal to have the "first woman" anything? 

Good lord. This is this nonsensical logic.

Standing up for the rights of women doesn't make a person anti-gay or anti-trans.  Good luck to you Jutaw.

Of course not - being anti-gay and anti-trans makes you anti-gay and anti-trans.  Using "rights of women" as a cover for that doesn't make you less anti-gay or anti-trans.

[Hards Alumni]

Too many posts to quote and comment on.

Trans people (nor anyone else for that matter) should not be discriminated against, but (a) it's a matter of fairness and safety, and (2) it's a big deal because the 99.9999999999999% of the population is being required to allow the .0000000000001%, who have a physical  advantage, to compete against the rest.  If a separate category shouldn't be created, then abolish the women's category and make it all open.

And, if it's no big deal and "trans women are women", why is it such a big deal to have the "first woman" anything? 

Standing up for the rights of women doesn't make a person anti-gay or anti-trans.  Good luck to you Jutaw.

I'm sorry, I can't help you.

[Pakuni]

Too many posts to quote and comment on.

Trans people (nor anyone else for that matter) should not be discriminated against, but (a) it's a matter of fairness and safety, and (2) it's a big deal because the 99.9999999999999% of the population is being required to allow the .0000000000001%, who have a physical  advantage, to compete against the rest.  If a separate category shouldn't be created, then abolish the women's category and make it all open.

And, if it's no big deal and "trans women are women", why is it such a big deal to have the "first woman" anything? 

Standing up for the rights of women doesn't make a person anti-gay or anti-trans.  Good luck to you Jutaw.

1. Trans women in sports is a complex issue that requires a reasonable balance between allowing equal opportunity and competing on a reasonably level playing field. Most American and international sports governing bodies have, and continue to, review the science and work with experts to establish rules that create this balance.

2. A large number, if not the vast majority, of those who want to ban trans athletes over "the rights of women" don't actually care about the rights of women or women's sports. The Venn diagram between these people and those who support Dobbs and complain about Title IX is awfully close to a circle.

3. None of this is relevant to the outright falsehoods and hatred being spewed by the right toward Imane Khelif and Lin Yu Tin.

[Hards Alumni]

Also, to circle back to the discussion, and hopefully put it to bed, the Italian boxer apologized publicly to the Algerian boxer.  Is regretful of her comments and behavior.

[lawdog77]

Did not realize that a gold medal is actually 92.5% silver, with only 6 grams of gold plating.

[Jay Bee]

I'm a good human because I play a lot of mixed Pickleball. #equality

How dare we speak Merry Christmas?!?!

[Hards Alumni]

Did not realize that a gold medal is actually 92.5% silver, with only 6 grams of gold plating.

Yeah, I believe it is less and less gold every year.  Kind of a shame.

I think this year's medals have some melted down chunks of the Eiffel tower in them, so at least there is something cool about them.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

I'm a good human because I play a lot of mixed Pickleball. #equality

How dare we speak Merry Christmas?!?!

Weird