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MuggsyB

Never forget what these men endured for our freedom.  The world is as dangerous as it's been since the 1930's.   

MU82

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 06, 2024, 08:42:44 AM
Never forget what these men endured for our freedom.  The world is as dangerous as it's been since the 1930's.   

In 1962, it looked like Russia and the U.S. were about to unleash weaponry that would destroy most of the world.

In 1965, we still had regular drills at school in which we had to get under our desks - where we would be safe if Russia nuked America.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Goose

Muggsy

I agree with you.

NCMUFan


Pakuni

Counterpoint: We are living in the safest period in recorded human history.
This is not an opinion.

Uncle Rico

I agree that we live in a more dangerous time than D-Day or as dangerous.

Many people ignore science and are willingly bringing diseases we wiped out decades ago because they think vaccines are bad.

Many people happily destroy the environment around them, figuring the next generations can figure it out.

Many Americans believe books should be banned, we should live under a Christians-only style of government, willingly embrace ignorance and are terrified over made belief threats from the LGQBT community.

Many Americans are willing to walk away from NATO and Israel.

Most Americans don't know anything about civics or how government works but instead gravitate towards cults of personality and wild conspiracy theories.

Yeah, it's pretty dangerous out there.
Guster is for Lovers

MU82

Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 06, 2024, 10:52:29 AM
I agree that we live in a more dangerous time than D-Day or as dangerous.

Many people ignore science and are willingly bringing diseases we wiped out decades ago because they think vaccines are bad.

Many people happily destroy the environment around them, figuring the next generations can figure it out.

Many Americans believe books should be banned, we should live under a Christians-only style of government, willingly embrace ignorance and are terrified over made belief threats from the LGQBT community.

Many Americans are willing to walk away from NATO and Israel.

Most Americans don't know anything about civics or how government works but instead gravitate towards cults of personality and wild conspiracy theories.

Yeah, it's pretty dangerous out there.

You make lots of good points, Unk. And you didn't even mention Guns For Everybody.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

NCMUFan

Quote from: Uncle Rico on June 06, 2024, 10:52:29 AM
I agree that we live in a more dangerous time than D-Day or as dangerous.

Many people ignore science and are willingly bringing diseases we wiped out decades ago because they think vaccines are bad.

Many people happily destroy the environment around them, figuring the next generations can figure it out.

Many Americans believe books should be banned, we should live under a Christians-only style of government, willingly embrace ignorance and are terrified over made belief threats from the LGQBT community.

Many Americans are willing to walk away from NATO and Israel.

Most Americans don't know anything about civics or how government works but instead gravitate towards cults of personality and wild conspiracy theories.

Yeah, it's pretty dangerous out there.
You're scaring me, please stop!

jesmu84

Quote from: Pakuni on June 06, 2024, 10:42:08 AM
Counterpoint: We are living in the safest period in recorded human history.
This is not an opinion.

Sure sounds like the opinion of someone who's never been to downtown Milwaukee

Jockey

Quote from: MU82 on June 06, 2024, 09:54:42 AM
In 1962, it looked like Russia and the U.S. were about to unleash weaponry that would destroy most of the world.

In 1965, we still had regular drills at school in which we had to get under our desks - where we would be safe if Russia nuked America.

I always enjoyed crouching down under kindling to protect myself from the coming firestorm.

dgies9156

You know what, there's always threats and always been much about which to be scared.

But nothing tops what our soldiers, sailors and airmen did that day in Normandy. Anyone who has been there knows what the Nazis had waiting for our Troops. The Nazis spent three years building an Atlantic Wall and it was formidable. We went anyway because we knew without us billions of people would be enslaved and millions upon millions more would be killed because they weren't Germanic.

While we honor the people who served that day in Normandy, please don't forget the folks who died at Iwo Jima or Okinawa either. Or in North Africa, Guadalcanal or as the Allied forces moved across Europe and the Pacific.

Perhaps the greatest testament to the folks who died in World War II was the fact that we restored freedom and democracy to our enemies, rebuilt their economies and welcomed them all into the family of nations and of free peoples.

TSmith34, Inc.

If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

MuggsyB

I'm well aware that some of you like to play little games.  And think you're really clever manipulating narratives.  Did I write the world is as dangerous as it was before WW2?  Uh.... no.  I stated SINCE the 1930's.  Open your fking eyes and axe the dishonesty.

Meanwhile, while this little echo chamber is spewing fake concern about a group of people they couldn't give a F about, and not supporting our only ally in that region, we have an Evil Triumvirate that is a threat to freedom and prosperity across the globe. 

Now you guys can continue to live in la-la-land if you want, and create asinine/nonsensical situations that make you feel morally superior, but my eyes are wide freaking open.  I'm not a warmonger at all.   I simply understand catastrophic threats and how to eliminate them.  We need more Winston's and far fewer Neville's, it's just that simple.

Goose

Muggsy

La-la land is where a number of scoopers reside. My only hope is that they are playing games or think they are funny.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 06, 2024, 12:29:16 PM
I'm well aware that some of you like to play little games.  And think you're really clever manipulating narratives.  Did I write the world is as dangerous as it was before WW2?  Uh.... no.  I stated SINCE the 1930's.  Open your fking eyes and axe the dishonesty.

Meanwhile, while this little echo chamber is spewing fake concern about a group of people they couldn't give a F about, and not supporting our only ally in that region, we have an Evil Triumvirate that is a threat to freedom and prosperity across the globe. 

Now you guys can continue to live in la-la-land if you want, and create asinine/nonsensical situations that make you feel morally superior, but my eyes are wide freaking open.  I'm not a warmonger at all.   I simply understand catastrophic threats and how to eliminate them.  We need more Winston's and far fewer Neville's, it's just that simple.

I am morally superior.  It's a burden, but one I must carry.
Guster is for Lovers

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Goose on June 06, 2024, 12:32:10 PM
Muggsy

La-la land is where a number of scoopers reside. My only hope is that they are playing games or think they are funny.

Like starting a thread commerating D-Day and saying the world has never been this dangerous since the 1930's and then having a hissy fit saying he never said the world was dangerous as WWII but before WWII and telling us to axe the dishonesty because he can't possibly be wrong?

That there's an echo chamber?  Certainly no echo chamber on the other side of those who think otherwise.  Certainly none there as well.

Is it possible today is the most dangerous time, more dangerous than the 1950's or 1960's?  Sure, I'll listen to that argument but if you can't handle a counterpoint and cry right about it right away, go have a grape soda and sit in the corner
Guster is for Lovers

Goose

rico

I am pretty sure Muggsy is not afraid of debating this topic or any other topic.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Goose on June 06, 2024, 12:59:25 PM
rico

I am pretty sure Muggsy is not afraid of debating this topic or any other topic.

We're aware.  He'll tell us about the 5-point plan to eliminate the triumvirate of evil that goes against everything America was founded on and is supposed to stand for, breaks international law and ignores the constitution and all consequences of said actions.

But what do I know, I'm creating asinine hypotheticals and nonsensical ideas and have my head buried in the sand of La-La land
Guster is for Lovers

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 06, 2024, 12:29:16 PM
I'm well aware that some of you like to play little games.  And think you're really clever manipulating narratives.  Did I write the world is as dangerous as it was before WW2?  Uh.... no.  I stated SINCE the 1930's.  Open your fking eyes and axe the dishonesty.

You do know that WWII was still going on during the 1940s?
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


cheebs09

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on June 06, 2024, 01:12:44 PM
You do know that WWII was still going on during the 1940s?

Yeah, but that's only because Muggsy wasn't in charge. Would have been a blip in history if he was.

MU82

I posit that World War II was more dangerous than it is now. And I posit that the Cuban Missile Crisis era was more dangerous than it is now.

But if Muggsy wants to play little games, live in la-la-land and not open his fking eyes, that's up to him. And if others agree with him that right now is more dangerous than World War II or the Cuban Missile Crisis, that's cool too. Our parents and grandparents might disagree, but what do they know? They don't even have 5-point plans.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 06, 2024, 12:29:16 PM
I'm not a warmonger at all.   I simply understand catastrophic threats and how to eliminate them. 

Ha ha, good one.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

ATL MU Warrior

Don't worry, Trump is gonna roll into office and clean all this sh!t up.  It's only going to be super dangerous for another 7 months.  Then everything will be as good as it's ever been. 

tower912

Muggsy, you are likely going to vote for what the heroes of D-day gave their lives to defeat.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

NCMUFan

Please Tower, if that was the case, why isn't he in power now?  He was President, now he isn't.  Step back from the ledge.  Oops, might have provoked an MU82 tantrum.

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