US Economy, part 2

[Goose]

Fluff

Don't acknowledge you often, but thinks for the correction. Trust me, it was unintentional.

[4everwarriors]

Fahrenheit, back in yo fire fightin' daze, did ya ride a bike to da blaze? Those fire engines sure guzzle petro, hey?

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Fahrenheit, back in yo fire fightin' daze, did ya ride a bike to da blaze? Those fire engines sure guzzle petro, hey?

Living embodiment of this meme

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

You realize that "gook" is a slur right? Do you mean "kook"?

That's quite the autocorrect

[tower912]

They do.  The first generation of electric powered fire trucks are starting to come on line.   
Used foam with PFAS.   Used bunker gear with PFAS.  Firefighting cancer studies indicate time is not on my side.  Lessons are being learned and new fabrics and foams are coming on line. 

So, yes, as with all things, we should all strive to always keep learning, to seek better ways in order to do the most good for the most people.     I have no doubt you do the same thing.

Of course, the transition to PFAS free gear and electric powered fire apparatus will cost taxpayer money.   I am sure Mequon FD can count on your vote.

[Goose]

PLM

Unlike some on here, I take ownership. That was a fuxk up, not autocorrect. Typing on my phone and talking to my daughter who is home for my son's wedding.

If you know anything about me, that likely is not a slur that I would use intentionally. That said, believe what you want.

[Lennys Tap]

And?   That wasn't the question.

? What question? You made a statement, I responded with one of my one. It's how discussion goes sometimes.

[tower912]

PLM

Typing on my phone and talking to my daughter who is home for my son's wedding.

Congratulations on the wedding.  I walked my daughter down the aisle 3.5 weeks ago.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

PLM

Unlike some on here, I take ownership. That was a fuxk up, not autocorrect. Typing on my phone and talking to my daughter who is home for my son's wedding.

If you know anything about me, that likely is not a slur that I would use intentionally. That said, believe what you want.

I believe you, it was a humorous blunder

[Goose]

Appreciate it. Congrats to your daughter and family.

[Goose]

PLM

Again owning up to things, while not intentional, I did laugh pretty hard after fluff pointed out my blunder.

[Skatastrophy]

Buncha old coots.

My dad said to me a while ago that when he was a young man raising kids he didn't really anticipate the feeling of contentedness standing around the kitchen with a bunch of 40 year olds having a nice chat on a summer day.

[dgies9156]

Congratulations on the wedding.  I walked my daughter down the aisle 3.5 weeks ago.

Same here. My son was married May 11th in Oconomowoc.

[dgies9156]

Ok, I'll bite.

I agree with an earlier poster. We have, if we're lucky, about 150 years of solid climate data. Drill the polar ice caps, the ice in Greenland or Iceland and other places around the world, and you get, if you're lucky, 10,000 years of climate trend. Throw in the study of rock layers in parts of the world and you might go back 100,000 years. Maybe, there's evidence out there to give us an idea of the Earth a million years ago.

Folks, the planet is estimated to be 3.5 billion years old. Under the best of circumstances, we have reasonably reliable data on about 0.0029 percent of the history of the earth, or about 100,000 years. To put it another way, if the average human lives to be 72 years of age, that's like making conclusions and "establishing facts" about humanity by studying a baby that's 0.75 days old.

Another interesting fact to consider: Between 1973 and 1979, the Midwest and Northeast had some of the coldest winters ever. Trust me, it was fricking cold! Learned people were coming up with theories about global cooling. Obviously that didn't last either.

Our peninsula that makes up much of the State of Florida expands and contracts based on the polar ice cap. The more water frozen "up north", the less water is lapping against our shores, thus pushing the peninsula further into the ocean. Where I live, 10,000 or so years ago, once was a dry spot in the swamp 50 miles or so from the coast of then-Florida. You have to ask, "what's normal?" Should the major cities in the eastern United States "normally" be underwater? Fair question!

I'm an environmentalist and I'm a believer in the concept we should protect our environment. For ourselves and for our children. If we can find a substitute good that's less polluting, global warming or not, then go for it. If we can cut down on what we're pumping into the atmosphere without reducing people's quality of life, all the better. But I'm not about to live in a cave or give up a substantial part of what is the highest standard of living in the world because of scientific guesses -- no matter how learned the guesser might be.

P.S. -- I live in a house on a barrier island about 800 yards from the Atlantic Ocean. As Alfred E. Newman once said, "What me... worry?"

[Hards Alumni]

PLM

If that is your belief, every politician that does not support righting the ship as being a top, top priority should be banned from political office. If they have data that indicates flat out proof that the climate and world is in trouble, there should be no other agenda for them.

If you are correct, why are they only throwing nickels out of their limousines?

It isn't a belief, there's the issue.

[Hards Alumni]

There's far bigger fish to fry than da Buffoon's Green Energy nonsense, hey?

Maybe for you, but your grand children will have to deal with it.

[Hards Alumni]

tower

I have not stopped listening, I started listening. Not going to argue this, but if I knew mankind was real danger I would make that a mission to get that message out 24/7.
Hell, I back Ben Gold every week on here and get ridiculed. If I knew the clock was ticking on the planet, it would be an obsession to get that message out.
I will say, the day I see a person willing to  be zealot on this topic and risk being demonized and rideable, I'm joining that person's bandwagon.

Greta Thunberg is arrested constantly for being a zealot about climate change.  She is demonized constantly.

[MU82]

Kroger just reported an outstanding quarter for earnings and sales. The company also reaffirmed its full-year forecast, showing its best year ever for profits and revenue.

https://seekingalpha.com/news/4117421-kroger-beats-top-line-and-bottom-line-estimates-reaffirms-fy24-outlook?

This on the heels of similarly positive reports from Costco and Walmart.

Inflation should be hurting these companies, but they not only are passing along their own rising costs to customers - which is expected - but they are keeping prices high to bolster their own already high profits. Classic "greedflation."

[Goose]

Hards

I guess I was suggesting a major US politician to lead the way. If a truly dire situation, I would hope someone would make it their mission, not talking points.

As for my feelings, I have gone from scam to unsure. To be honest, it is not one of my top concerns. IMO, the world is a mess and global warming is way down the list of concerns.

[Hards Alumni]

Hards

I guess I was suggesting a major US politician to lead the way. If a truly dire situation, I would hope someone would make it their mission, not talking points.

As for my feelings, I have gone from scam to unsure. To be honest, it is not one of my top concerns. IMO, the world is a mess and global warming is way down the list of concerns.

AOC wrote the legislation for the Green New Deal (With Ed Markey).  I think we can easily both agree she is demonized.

World is largely fine, you should read about the acidification of our oceans and what it means for the planet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocean_acidification

[MU82]

Al Gore has made it his life's work. He has been satirized, criticized and ostracized, some of which he has brought on himself. But he's a pretty major U.S. politician - a 2-term vice president who was a few hanging chads and a questionable SCOTUS decision away from being president - who has dedicated himself to the cause.

[4everwarriors]

Don't understand why people can't think for themselves. Sheep, sheep, sheep, hey?

[Hards Alumni]

Don't understand why people can't think for themselves. Sheep, sheep, sheep, hey?

Using information from peer reviewed articles from scientists whose life work is climate science is normal.

"Common sense" from some random guy on the internet is not normal.

[MU82]

nm

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

See the thing is, it's not really up for debate to throwing "a few nickels to get more data". The data's there. It's scientific consensus. 91% of all scientists and 98.7% of climate scientists.

"Nearly all actively publishing climate scientists say humans are causing climate change. Surveys of the scientific literature are another way to measure scientific consensus. A 2019 review of scientific papers found the consensus on the cause of climate change to be at 100%, and a 2021 study concluded that over 99% of scientific papers agree on the human cause of climate change. The small percentage of papers that disagreed with the consensus often contained errors or could not be replicated."

Sowing doubt in it is either financial beneficial astroturfing or pseudoscience. Or maybe denial of humanity's faults? I dunno.

I think the debate resides with what we should be doing about it now, not whether it exists. (Unless you're a dentist?)

I had read that in every country in the world the conservative and liberal parties universally agree that climate change is man made.  And the only country this isn't true is the United States where climate change denial is part of the conservative platform.