US Economy, part 2

[Pakuni]

Vote counts just the same as ours 🙏

Possibly more, depending on what state you live in.

[rocket surgeon]

I was giving an example of people needing personal impact in order to care about a problem.

Why are you so much more often an unhinged dip$hit at 5 am?

  so, if i am impacted by water flooding my house, i'm going to start joining the global warming crowd?  nope! 

unhinged at 5 am??  you guys are unhinged 24/7 and that's ok.  i don't have the time to stand guard here at scoop as most of you do

let me be clear, global warming/climate change the way you guys understand it and try to force it upon others as science is a big hoax.  climate change has literally been occurring since the beginning of time, NOT because of man's activities.  do you realize when a volcano blows, it creates climate change?  the algores et.al. have been so wrong about this stuff for years, but continue to flaunt this crap.  how much money do we continue to throw at this and what have the results been? 

btw, there are many more who think like me but just so happen to not want to put up with the backlash of you "smart" guys 

[Hards Alumni]

  so, if i am impacted by water flooding my house, i'm going to start joining the global warming crowd?  nope! 

unhinged at 5 am??  you guys are unhinged 24/7 and that's ok.  i don't have the time to stand guard here at scoop as most of you do

let me be clear, global warming/climate change the way you guys understand it and try to force it upon others as science is a big hoax.  climate change has literally been occurring since the beginning of time, NOT because of man's activities.  do you realize when a volcano blows, it creates climate change?  the algores et.al. have been so wrong about this stuff for years, but continue to flaunt this crap.  how much money do we continue to throw at this and what have the results been? 

btw, there are many more who think like me but just so happen to not want to put up with the backlash of you "smart" guys

You're an idiot.  Your opinion is wrong, and ignores all scientific fact.

Stick to teeth.

[The Sultan]

You're an idiot.  Your opinion is wrong, and ignores all scientific fact.

Stick to teeth.

And pray for his patients.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

  so, if i am impacted by water flooding my house, i'm going to start joining the global warming crowd?  nope! 

unhinged at 5 am??  you guys are unhinged 24/7 and that's ok.  i don't have the time to stand guard here at scoop as most of you do

let me be clear, global warming/climate change the way you guys understand it and try to force it upon others as science is a big hoax.  climate change has literally been occurring since the beginning of time, NOT because of man's activities.  do you realize when a volcano blows, it creates climate change?  the algores et.al. have been so wrong about this stuff for years, but continue to flaunt this crap.  how much money do we continue to throw at this and what have the results been? 

btw, there are many more who think like me but just so happen to not want to put up with the backlash of you "smart" guys

This guy whistles at the john to remember which end it comes out

[lawdog77]

  so, if i am impacted by water flooding my house, i'm going to start joining the global warming crowd?  nope! 

unhinged at 5 am??  you guys are unhinged 24/7 and that's ok.  i don't have the time to stand guard here at scoop as most of you do

let me be clear, global warming/climate change the way you guys understand it and try to force it upon others as science is a big hoax.  climate change has literally been occurring since the beginning of time, NOT because of man's activities.  do you realize when a volcano blows, it creates climate change?  the algores et.al. have been so wrong about this stuff for years, but continue to flaunt this crap.  how much money do we continue to throw at this and what have the results been? 

btw, there are many more who think like me but just so happen to not want to put up with the backlash of you "smart" guys

The amount of money the US govertment throws at climate issues is pocket change.

[MU82]

btw, there are many more who think like me but just so happen to not want to put up with the backlash of you "smart" guys

Yep, there are many more flat-earthers out there. Many more who think that the world is only 6,000 years old and that Jesus rode dinosaurs.

[Goose]

I will say that I have modestly modified my thoughts on climate change over the past few years and am not opposed to doing research. That said, l will say that is based off of the pocket change lawdog noted. I have compared that spending to me throwing a couple of rolls of nickels out my car window on my way to work.

I am not anywhere near thinking this should be top priority or crazy high expenditure by the government, but doing honest research at a reasonable spend is fine by me.

I had an outstanding science teacher in 7th and 8th grade and he made watching weather into a 50 year hobby for me. Five or six years ago I thought climate change was 100% a scam and I will say that my stance was moderated to still too early to tell, but I'm fine throwing nickels out the car window to get more data.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

I will say that I have modestly modified my thoughts on climate change over the past few years and am not opposed to doing research. That said, l will say that is based off of the pocket change lawdog noted. I have compared that spending to me throwing a couple of rolls of nickels out my car window on my way to work.

I am not anywhere near thinking this should be top priority or crazy high expenditure by the government, but doing honest research at a reasonable spend is fine by me.

I had an outstanding science teacher in 7th and 8th grade and he made watching weather into a 50 year hobby for me. Five or six years ago I thought climate change was 100% a scam and I will say that my stance was moderated to still too early to tell, but I'm fine throwing nickels out the car window to get more data.

See the thing is, it's not really up for debate to throwing "a few nickels to get more data". The data's there. It's scientific consensus. 91% of all scientists and 98.7% of climate scientists.

"Nearly all actively publishing climate scientists say humans are causing climate change. Surveys of the scientific literature are another way to measure scientific consensus. A 2019 review of scientific papers found the consensus on the cause of climate change to be at 100%, and a 2021 study concluded that over 99% of scientific papers agree on the human cause of climate change. The small percentage of papers that disagreed with the consensus often contained errors or could not be replicated."

Sowing doubt in it is either financial beneficial astroturfing or pseudoscience. Or maybe denial of humanity's faults? I dunno.

I think the debate resides with what we should be doing about it now, not whether it exists. (Unless you're a dentist?)

[Goose]

PLM

If that is your belief, every politician that does not support righting the ship as being a top, top priority should be banned from political office. If they have data that indicates flat out proof that the climate and world is in trouble, there should be no other agenda for them.

If you are correct, why are they only throwing nickels out of their limousines?

[tower912]

The oil companies pay more.

[Goose]

tower

That is a cop out. I cannot believe there is not one person of character that has true inside info that would not be a real whistleblower. I agree data indicates there are changes, but I do not see anyone betting their political career to save the planet.

[4everwarriors]

There's far bigger fish to fry than da Buffoon's Green Energy nonsense, hey?

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

tower

That is a cop out. I cannot believe there is not one person of character that has true inside info that would not be a real whistleblower. I agree data indicates there are changes, but I do not see anyone betting their political career to save the planet.

What's the average age of the politician you are referring to vs the timeline of climate impacts?

Did Exxon scientists in the 1970s not predict this sort of thing but was withheld?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/exxon-knew-about-climate-change-almost-40-years-ago/


Perhaps everyone is just betting either someone else will take care of the problem or they'll make enough money to be shielded from the effects.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

There's far bigger fish to fry than da Buffoon's Green Energy nonsense, hey?

Yeah the fish are getting fried themselves in the gulf these days

[tower912]

Goose, nobody in America.   Look at what is being done with solar in China, in Europe.   In America, even baby steps are demonized.    California has reached the point that many days they are producing 100 % of their energy via nuclear and renewables.  This is pointedly ignored or criticized.    How many EV companies in China supplying the rest of the world?  BYD selling more EVs than Tesla.
   The revolution is happening elsewhere.  The opportunity awaits America.    Here, instead of seizing it, the games continue to be played.  The inconvenient truth that the rest of the world accepts gets mocked.   

In short, the whistle is being blown constantly.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Goose, nobody in America.   Look at what is being done with solar in China, in Europe.   In America, even baby steps are demonized.    California has reached the point that many days they are producing 100 % of their energy via nuclear and renewables.  This is pointedly ignored or criticized.    How many EV companies in China supplying the rest of the world?  BYD selling more EVs than Tesla.
   The revolution is happening elsewhere.  The opportunity awaits America.    Here, instead of seizing it, the games continue to be played.  The inconvenient truth that the rest of the world accepts gets mocked.   

In short, the whistle is being blown constantly.

Not if we invade them

[Goose]

tower

If there is not one person with inside info willing to risk their political career with the risk of being demonized, we are doomed. I do not, and will not believe, that there is not one person with conviction to bet their career to save the world, unless not one person truly believes mankind is at risk.

I do hope you are joking about China leading the way? If not, I think you are delusional.

[tower912]

Al Gore.  Now a punchline.    John Kerry, the Paris treaty.   Punchline.

[Goose]

Tower

They sounded an alarm. Betting your career to saving mankind would be a mission, not sounding an alarm. If they had conviction of their beliefs, they should be sounding the alarm 24/7. Fact is, they did not.

There are kookson both sides that beating a crazy drum all of the time and risk their careers being a kook.I would hope saving mankind would be worthwhile drum for Kerry and Gore to shout out every day on the topic if they believed it is dire. They are wealthy men and have nothing to lose, yet only throw out talking points at a paid speaking gig.

[tower912]

Just because you quit listening does not mean that Gore and Kerry don't continue to this day to talk about climate change.

[The Sultan]

There are gooks on both sides that beating a crazy drum all of the time and risk their careers being a gook.

You realize that "gook" is a slur right? Do you mean "kook"?

[Lennys Tap]

Just because you quit listening does not mean that Gore and Kerry don't continue to this day to talk about climate change.

Every time they deplane from their private jets.

[tower912]

And?   That wasn't the question.

[Goose]

tower

I have not stopped listening, I started listening. Not going to argue this, but if I knew mankind was real danger I would make that a mission to get that message out 24/7.
Hell, I back Ben Gold every week on here and get ridiculed. If I knew the clock was ticking on the planet, it would be an obsession to get that message out.
I will say, the day I see a person willing to  be zealot on this topic and risk being demonized and rideable, I'm joining that person's bandwagon.