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2023-24 Season SoG Tally
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Date/Time: Oct 31, 2024 11:30am
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#UnleashSean

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 25, 2024, 08:31:46 PM

If they are employees they aren't held to academic standards anymore.

They really haven't been in decades anyways.

MU82

Quote from: WhiteTrash on May 27, 2024, 02:52:32 PM
I'm not the authority. Just a MU fan, posting on a fan site. But, I was not the only one making authoritative and definitive statements.

The point was, IMO, there a path for having non student players and, like with NIL and pay, the schools may not be making that decision. But a likely scenario could be that being a student is agreed to in a CBA. 

I didn't intend to say I know 100% that is happening.

OK.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

1318WWells

Quote from: WhiteTrash on May 27, 2024, 02:52:32 PM
I'm not the authority. Just a MU fan, posting on a fan site. But, I was not the only one making authoritative and definitive statements.

The point was, IMO, there a path for having non student players and, like with NIL and pay, the schools may not be making that decision. But a likely scenario could be that being a student is agreed to in a CBA. 

I didn't intend to say I know 100% that is happening.

Agreed.

Plenty of people are making the argument that some players were getting paid all along, now  it's just out in the open.


Well, there have been plenty of players that weren't "students" all along. Why would it be surprising if some schools lobbied for that to just be out in the open now? That way they can't get penalized.

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: 1318WWells on May 28, 2024, 12:17:01 PM
Agreed.

Plenty of people are making the argument that some players were getting paid all along, now  it's just out in the open.


Well, there have been plenty of players that weren't "students" all along. Why would it be surprising if some schools lobbied for that to just be out in the open now? That way they can't get penalized.

Make basketball or any sport for that matter, a major.   

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 28, 2024, 12:49:30 PM
Yeah, that's not really a thing.

I'm kidding but not kidding.  It is a trade like any other profession, I suppose. 

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on May 28, 2024, 01:33:44 PM
I'm kidding but not kidding.  It is a trade like any other profession, I suppose. 

I get it.  But practically, whenever a school begins a new academic program, it needs to be approved by an accrediting agency. No accrediting agency is going to accept a major in a sport however.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 28, 2024, 01:52:59 PM
I get it.  But practically, whenever a school begins a new academic program, it needs to be approved by an accrediting agency. No accrediting agency is going to accept a major in a sport however.

Fair enough.  That closes that discussion point then.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 28, 2024, 01:52:59 PM
I get it.  But practically, whenever a school begins a new academic program, it needs to be approved by an accrediting agency. No accrediting agency is going to accept a major in a sport however.
That won't stop North Carolina.  ;D

forgetful

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 28, 2024, 01:52:59 PM
I get it.  But practically, whenever a school begins a new academic program, it needs to be approved by an accrediting agency. No accrediting agency is going to accept a major in a sport however.

There are already accredited degrees at the Bachelors, Masters, and Doctoral levels for "Sports studies." It would not be hard for them to get a degree accredited for "Basketball Studies" at all.

I guarantee you I could write up a degree plan and get it approved, it isn't that hard.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: forgetful on May 28, 2024, 02:28:43 PM
There are already accredited degrees at the Bachelors, Masters, and Doctoral levels for "Sports studies." It would not be hard for them to get a degree accredited for "Basketball Studies" at all.

I guarantee you I could write up a degree plan and get it approved, it isn't that hard.

OK, you would know more than me. But it would need to be more than simply playing the sport right?
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

forgetful

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 28, 2024, 02:37:43 PM
OK, you would know more than me. But it would need to be more than simply playing the sport right?

Most definitely, it would follow a mold of Sports Studies/Sports Management/Sports Communication programs but with some basketball specific electives.

No university would make the major though, as it would cost more to create the extra classes for limited to no benefit, because other majors exist already that would suffice for the cause. Like this program at UT-Austin.

https://education.utexas.edu/academics/bachelors/physical-culture-sports/

In some of these "Sports Studies" type programs you see greater than 90% of the majors/students are athletes.