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muwarrior69

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on August 28, 2024, 08:17:47 AM
You seriously are asking "what market?" The market is that the college offers a full cost-of-attendance scholarship and their NIL earnings are unrestricted - some will obviously make more than others depending on where they go to school, how good they are, etc.

The college is required to offer the scholarship. They just can't have an athlete play without the scholarship. That is not market driven if it is required.

The Sultan

Quote from: muwarrior69 on August 28, 2024, 12:12:00 PM
The college is required to offer the scholarship. They just can't have an athlete play without the scholarship. That is not market driven if it is required.

But the NIL certainly is market driven.

Not only that, but the offering of a scholarship itself is a market driven decision.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

muwarrior69

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on August 28, 2024, 01:37:36 PM
But the NIL certainly is market driven.

Not only that, but the offering of a scholarship itself is a market driven decision.

How is that? Again the scholarship is not offered it is required. A UNC scholarship is worth less than an MU scholarship in dollars, but a high-profile athlete would think going to UNC may have more value because we all know it has nothing to do about the scholarship.

The Sultan

Quote from: muwarrior69 on August 28, 2024, 02:30:13 PM
How is that? Again the scholarship is not offered it is required. A UNC scholarship is worth less than an MU scholarship in dollars, but a high-profile athlete would think going to UNC may have more value because we all know it has nothing to do about the scholarship.

So in other words, its a market-driven decision. The perceived value of a UNC scholarship may be higher than a Marquette one.

Plus NIL is indeed market driven.

I have no idea what point you are trying to make.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU82

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on August 28, 2024, 02:33:56 PM
I have no idea what point you are trying to make.

"Everything was better in years gone by."
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

muwarrior69

Quote from: MU82 on August 28, 2024, 02:39:07 PM
"Everything was better in years gone by."

It was. A Marquette education was affordable even if you paid sticker price and earned a BS/BA degree with more purchasing power.

The Sultan

Quote from: muwarrior69 on August 29, 2024, 05:12:13 AM
It was. A Marquette education was affordable even if you paid sticker price and earned a BS/BA degree with more purchasing power.

The earnings gap between those with and without a bachelors degree has never been higher.

Regardless not on-topic.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Hards Alumni

Quote from: muwarrior69 on August 29, 2024, 05:12:13 AM
It was. A Marquette education was affordable even if you paid sticker price and earned a BS/BA degree with more purchasing power.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosy_retrospection

avid1010

Quote from: muwarrior69 on August 29, 2024, 05:12:13 AM
It was. A Marquette education was affordable even if you paid sticker price and earned a BS/BA degree with more purchasing power.
I took a grad class at MU based off of this premise.  It was very difficult to find large areas of social impact that were actually better years ago.  Obviously subjectivity and variables come into play.  In this case, I couldn't easily find MU'S tuition history, but I know what I paid for my undergrad degree (not MU) and the increase over the last 20 years is slightly under inflation. 

The Lens

Back to Joey Brackets...First team out: PITT

Another great candidate for: "Bad coaching hires or did the ACC ruin them"
The Teal Train has left the station and Lens is day drinking in the bar car.    ---- Dr. Blackheart

History is so valuable if you have the humility to learn from it.    ---- Shaka Smart

barfolomew

Quote from: The Lens on August 29, 2024, 09:04:17 AM
Back to Joey Brackets...First team out: PITT

Another great candidate for: "Bad coaching hires or did the ACC ruin them"

The former.
I am definitely in the camp that believes your conference affiliation is a minor contributor to your overall success. Only thing that matters about your conference is the size of your slice of the media pie.

I'm sure some of the sad Pitt fans would have soured on Jamie Dixon even if they weren't in the ACC.
Relationes Incrementum Victoria

UWW2MU

Quote from: brewcity77 on August 27, 2024, 04:25:02 PM
Historically, he's not very accurate, and it's not possible to paint a solid picture this time of year. It's just clickbait.


Not a dig on you, Brew but just an observation.  I think this is both correct but also missing the point.  From an analytics point of view it's all pointless and just clickbait.  However, this is sports... we argue about whether Jordan or Lebron is the GOAT, we place bets on the length of the Superbowl national anthem, etc.  It's all pointless in the end and we do it just to entertain ourselves.

I say have at the August predictions if you (rhetorical) find it fun!  If it's not your (rhetorical) thing, just go on to whatever else floats your boat.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: MU82 on August 28, 2024, 02:39:07 PM
"Everything was better in years gone by."

Because mean, selfish ignorant Baby Boomers have ruined everything for those who followed. "The World According to Hards".

MuMark

Quote from: Lennys Tap on August 29, 2024, 05:57:06 PM
Because mean, selfish ignorant Baby Boomers have ruined everything for those who followed. "The World According to Hards".

Every generation
Blames the one before
And all of their frustrations
Come beating on your door

One of my favorite song lyrics of all time........

DoctorV

Quote from: MuMark on August 29, 2024, 06:54:30 PM
Every generation
Blames the one before
And all of their frustrations
Come beating on your door

One of my favorite song lyrics of all time........

My generation not only blames the one before, but also the one after.

More fun that way

PointWarrior

Quote from: brewcity77 on August 27, 2024, 04:25:02 PM
Historically, he's not very accurate, and it's not possible to paint a solid picture this time of year. It's just clickbait.

but scoopers love talking about possible sweet 16 locations in August.   I just hope we make it past Vermont this year....

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Lennys Tap on August 29, 2024, 05:57:06 PM
Because mean, selfish ignorant Baby Boomers have ruined everything for those who followed. "The World According to Hards".

Seek help.

swoopem

Quote from: PointWarrior on August 29, 2024, 10:38:23 PM
but scoopers love talking about possible sweet 16 locations in August.   I just hope we make it past Vermont this year....

The 2031 final four in Atlanta was announced yesterday. I'm already looking at flights
Bring back FFP!!!

MU82

Quote from: swoopem on August 30, 2024, 07:37:52 AM
The 2031 final four in Atlanta was announced yesterday. I'm already looking at flights

Lunardi only has us as a 5 seed in 2031, so that means we're ripe to be upset.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Spotcheck Billy

Quote from: PointWarrior on August 29, 2024, 10:38:23 PM
but scoopers love talking about possible sweet 16 locations in August.   I just hope we make it past Vermont this year....
Have to get past St. Thomas 1st.

The Sultan

Quote from: PointWarrior on August 29, 2024, 10:38:23 PM
but scoopers love talking about possible sweet 16 locations in August.   I just hope we make it past Vermont this year....

We all know that the committee is going to screw us with our first round location.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

muwarrior69

Quote from: avid1010 on August 29, 2024, 06:44:36 AM
I took a grad class at MU based off of this premise.  It was very difficult to find large areas of social impact that were actually better years ago.  Obviously subjectivity and variables come into play.  In this case, I couldn't easily find MU'S tuition history, but I know what I paid for my undergrad degree (not MU) and the increase over the last 20 years is slightly under inflation.

According to this link 1 dollar in 1969 is equal to $8.57 in 2024. My 4 years at MU was $12000 ( tuition, labs ,books and Room and Board). Adjusting for inflation a MU education should cost 103K today, not 250K.

https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/1969?amount=1

MU82

Quote from: muwarrior69 on August 30, 2024, 07:43:23 PM
According to this link 1 dollar in 1969 is equal to $8.57 in 2024. My 4 years at MU was $12000 ( tuition, labs ,books and Room and Board). Adjusting for inflation a MU education should cost 103K today, not 250K.

https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/1969?amount=1

How many Marquette students do you think actually pay anywhere near $250K over 4 years?
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

The Sultan

Quote from: MU82 on August 31, 2024, 08:01:50 AM
How many Marquette students do you think actually pay anywhere near $250K over 4 years?

Correct. Plus it's also more costly to run a university these days.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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