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Re: 2024-25 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #150 on: May 14, 2024, 08:50:51 PM »
I love that he has the teams to do it.
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Re: 2024-25 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #151 on: May 14, 2024, 09:47:10 PM »
I love that he has the teams to do it.

Yes.  This.

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Re: 2024-25 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #152 on: May 14, 2024, 10:01:45 PM »
I hope you decide to come. I'm sure it will be a lot of pun.

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Re: 2024-25 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #153 on: May 14, 2024, 10:28:12 PM »
Also, I'm thinking the NC state might be a neutral court 1 off attempt like Georgia.

With Wisco, Maryland and Purdue all being guaranteed for following season plus a MTE. Might not have much room for another nc state round
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Re: 2024-25 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #155 on: May 15, 2024, 10:24:28 AM »
I like this - this can end up being a tougher non con than last year since Texas, UCLA and Kansas did not meet expectations from the pre season.

This also sets up 2025-2026 games - Purdue, Wisconsin and Maryland - add a MTE to that (hopefully battle 4 Atlantis) and one SEC/Big 12 team and the next 2 years of non con are pretty damn strong.

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Re: 2024-25 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #156 on: May 15, 2024, 10:49:54 AM »
I like this - this can end up being a tougher non con than last year since Texas, UCLA and Kansas did not meet expectations from the pre season.

This also sets up 2025-2026 games - Purdue, Wisconsin and Maryland - add a MTE to that (hopefully battle 4 Atlantis) and one SEC/Big 12 team and the next 2 years of non con are pretty damn strong.

Yeah, I don't think so.

23-24 Purdue >>>>>> 24-25 Purdue (especially considering neutral vs. home game)
23-24 Wisconsin >> 24-25 Wisconsin (although flipping this from a road to a home game)
23-24 Illinois < 24-25 Iowa State (both road)
23-24 Kansas >>>>>> 24-25 Georgia (both neutrals)
23-24 Texas >> 24-25 Maryland (although flipping a home game for a road game)
23-24 UCLA < 24-25 NC State (if this game happens)

Last year's non conference high major games was pretty significantly better than what this year will be, which just goes to show how good last year's schedule was.  The quality of the buy games could make this year's non-con more useful though.
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Re: 2024-25 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #157 on: May 15, 2024, 11:00:10 AM »
Yeah, I don't think so.

23-24 Purdue >>>>>> 24-25 Purdue (especially considering neutral vs. home game)
23-24 Wisconsin >> 24-25 Wisconsin (although flipping this from a road to a home game)
23-24 Illinois < 24-25 Iowa State (both road)
23-24 Kansas >>>>>> 24-25 Georgia (both neutrals)
23-24 Texas >> 24-25 Maryland (although flipping a home game for a road game)
23-24 UCLA < 24-25 NC State (if this game happens)

Last year's non conference high major games was pretty significantly better than what this year will be, which just goes to show how good last year's schedule was.  The quality of the buy games could make this year's non-con more useful though.

There is a very good chance Maryland ends up better than this past years Texas

And then add in it being away.
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Re: 2024-25 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #158 on: May 15, 2024, 11:51:00 AM »
Yeah, I don't think so.

23-24 Purdue >>>>>> 24-25 Purdue (especially considering neutral vs. home game)
23-24 Wisconsin >> 24-25 Wisconsin (although flipping this from a road to a home game)
23-24 Illinois < 24-25 Iowa State (both road)
23-24 Kansas >>>>>> 24-25 Georgia (both neutrals)
23-24 Texas >> 24-25 Maryland (although flipping a home game for a road game)
23-24 UCLA < 24-25 NC State (if this game happens)

Last year's non conference high major games was pretty significantly better than what this year will be, which just goes to show how good last year's schedule was.  The quality of the buy games could make this year's non-con more useful though.

I was looking at it from a rankings perspective.

Torvik final ranking 2023-2024
23-24 Purdue - 3
23-24 Wisconsin - 25
23-24 Illinois - 13
23-24 Kansas - 21
23-24 Texas - 19
23-24 UCLA - 88

Average 28

Trovik Predicted Ranking 2024-2025
24-25 Purdue - 10
24-25 Wisconsin - 37
24-25 Iowa State - 2
24-25 Georgia - 68
24-25 Maryland - 44
24-25 NC State 66

Average 37

It currently is a 9 spot difference; at end of year it could be very close to 2023-2024, but time will tell

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Re: 2024-25 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #159 on: May 15, 2024, 11:52:19 AM »
I haven't had time to turn the transcript into an article yet, but I can also confirm via an interview with Broeker that Marquette is planning to host a 3-game MTE at home. No additional details, and it isn't announced because they are still finalizing details (and who knows if Creighton dropping out of Atlantis could change plans) but he did give me that last week.
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Re: 2024-25 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #160 on: May 15, 2024, 12:00:21 PM »
I haven't had time to turn the transcript into an article yet, but I can also confirm via an interview with Broeker that Marquette is planning to host a 3-game MTE at home. No additional details, and it isn't announced because they are still finalizing details (and who knows if Creighton dropping out of Atlantis could change plans) but he did give me that last week.

It feels like Atlantis would make the most sense given that the team will already be there. But I also don't know what is going on behind the scenes.
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Re: 2024-25 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #161 on: May 15, 2024, 12:00:38 PM »
What does MTE stand for?
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Re: 2024-25 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #162 on: May 15, 2024, 12:01:23 PM »
What does MTE stand for?

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Re: 2024-25 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #163 on: May 15, 2024, 12:04:45 PM »
I haven't had time to turn the transcript into an article yet, but I can also confirm via an interview with Broeker that Marquette is planning to host a 3-game MTE at home. No additional details, and it isn't announced because they are still finalizing details (and who knows if Creighton dropping out of Atlantis could change plans) but he did give me that last week.


Could this other high major opponent be part of the MTE?  For instance, we host two "buy games" and then NC State, with those two buy opponents then playing at NC State as well?  And then next year NC State hosts something similar.

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Re: 2024-25 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #164 on: May 15, 2024, 12:04:58 PM »
What does MTE stand for?

Multi-Team Event. Any tournament like Maui, Atlantis, Orlando, PK85, Empire Classic are all MTEs. For reference to what Marquette's might look like, check the schedules for Duke (Blue Devil Challenge), Kentucky (Wildcat Challenge), and Nebraska (Cornhusker Classic).
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Re: 2024-25 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #165 on: May 15, 2024, 12:06:23 PM »

Could this other high major opponent be part of the MTE?  For instance, we host two "buy games" and then NC State, with those two buy opponents then playing at NC State as well?  And then next year NC State hosts something similar.

Almost certainly not. I asked about that, but MTE rules require 75% of the teams to be different year-to-year. If we did it with two buy level games and NC State, then only 50% of the teams would change the following year. It would have to be a full eight-team field to do that.
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« Reply #166 on: May 15, 2024, 12:07:37 PM »
It feels like Atlantis would make the most sense given that the team will already be there. But I also don't know what is going on behind the scenes.

The Creighton dropping out of Atlantis news happened after I talked to Broeker, so it's not impossible, but it wasn't in the plans as of last week Monday.
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Re: 2024-25 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #167 on: May 15, 2024, 12:08:22 PM »
Almost certainly not. I asked about that, but MTE rules require 75% of the teams to be different year-to-year. If we did it with two buy level games and NC State, then only 50% of the teams would change the following year. It would have to be a full eight-team field to do that.


Ah. Thank you. Didn't realize that was part of the rules.
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Re: 2024-25 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #168 on: May 15, 2024, 12:26:28 PM »
Yeah, I don't think so.

23-24 Purdue >>>>>> 24-25 Purdue (especially considering neutral vs. home game)
23-24 Wisconsin >> 24-25 Wisconsin (although flipping this from a road to a home game)
23-24 Illinois < 24-25 Iowa State (both road)
23-24 Kansas >>>>>> 24-25 Georgia (both neutrals)
23-24 Texas >> 24-25 Maryland (although flipping a home game for a road game)
23-24 UCLA < 24-25 NC State (if this game happens)

Last year's non conference high major games was pretty significantly better than what this year will be, which just goes to show how good last year's schedule was.  The quality of the buy games could make this year's non-con more useful though.

We had Notre Dame on last year's schedule too.  Not a good team last year but still a high major program. 

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Re: 2024-25 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #169 on: May 15, 2024, 12:55:35 PM »
Almost certainly not. I asked about that, but MTE rules require 75% of the teams to be different year-to-year. If we did it with two buy level games and NC State, then only 50% of the teams would change the following year. It would have to be a full eight-team field to do that.

Cite the Bylaw? Maybe something is changing for 2024-25 (or beyond), but 17.4.5.1.1 says otherwise.
 
To get a little more technical, we’re talking about Qualifying Regular-Season Multiple-Team Events (QRSMTE).
 
Per 17.4.5.1.1 (c), Participation is limited, by conference, to one team per conference and, by institution, to not more than once in the same event in any four-year period.
 
As to Sultan’s question, there may be a path to making it a ‘different’ MTE next season, with us and NC State both involved… the NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball Oversight Committee did issue a Q&A on 17.4.5.1.1 last summer, and it gets into the considerations that may become relevant when determining if the MTE is ‘different’ for purposes of the ‘no, no – not the same event’.
 
So anyway.. there are probably hangups regardless when it comes to Sultan’s question, but the idea that there can be repeats in the same event year over year I believe is incorrect.
 
As last year’s Q&A states, “it is not permissible for the event to be conducted by the same event operator, in the same venue or advertised under the same name as the previous year’s event (i.e., listed on the team’s schedule)”.
 
Again, if the rule has changed for this year, I take everything I said back. PS- there been talking about this MU “run” QRSMTE in 2024-25 for ages. Wonder why the delays… just getting signatures, or wanting to keep our options open?
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Re: 2024-25 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #170 on: May 15, 2024, 01:38:35 PM »
Multi-Team Event. Any tournament like Maui, Atlantis, Orlando, PK85, Empire Classic are all MTEs. For reference to what Marquette's might look like, check the schedules for Duke (Blue Devil Challenge), Kentucky (Wildcat Challenge), and Nebraska (Cornhusker Classic).

Are these like the First Bank Classic or whatever "tournament" Marquette used to hold back in the day?

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« Reply #171 on: May 15, 2024, 01:52:55 PM »
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Re: 2024-25 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #172 on: May 15, 2024, 02:47:11 PM »
Rumor on twitter is the game vs NC State will be a neutral site game in Chicago at the United Center

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« Reply #173 on: May 15, 2024, 02:49:46 PM »
Rumor on twitter is the game vs NC State will be a neutral site game in Chicago at the United Center

Considering the account I'd take it with a grain of salt.

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Re: 2024-25 Non-Conference Schedule
« Reply #174 on: May 15, 2024, 03:19:47 PM »
Considering the account I'd take it with a grain of salt.

What account are you referring to?

 

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