NIL Future

[Uncle Rico]

they paid him and reportedly another school came in and told him they'd give him more to quit now and transfer. These kids are coached on what to say in public. Also reports that it's like Richmond where he was getting what he agreed to then demanded more (UNLV had a bye week last weekend). If either of those are accurate then, yes, he's the bad guy for quitting on his teammates.

https://x.com/PalomaFOX5News/status/1838802285423718419?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1838802285423718419%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

Given how he's played this season, I can see him being in high demand.  He's been balling. 

I remember the good 'ol days when UNLV paid players top dollar

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

they paid him and reportedly another school came in and told him they'd give him more to quit now and transfer. These kids are coached on what to say in public. Also reports that it's like Richmond where he was getting what he agreed to then demanded more (UNLV had a bye week last weekend). If either of those are accurate then, yes, he's the bad guy for quitting on his teammates.

https://x.com/PalomaFOX5News/status/1838802285423718419?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1838802285423718419%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

I dont think anything you posted said the school or really the boosters paid/fulfilled their obligation...

So I'll hold my NIL or player outrage for a non-hypothetical.

[Its DJOver]

Wasn't the Richmond story that Sha wanted him to play through an injury and he wouldn't? He missed two games, then was back on a minutes restriction before averaging 35 mpg in the BET and all the NIT games. That's not exactly quitting IMO.

[Uncle Rico]

I dont think anything you posted said the school or really the boosters paid/fulfilled their obligation...

So I'll hold my NIL or player outrage for a non-hypothetical.

Truth is almost certainly somewhere in the middle.  UNLV people using local media and friends of the program to deny Sluka's claims to cover their end.

Personally, I'll get the popcorn and watch it all burn

[The Sultan]

If they were unionized employees subject to a CBA this likely would not have happened.

[Pakuni]

they paid him and reportedly another school came in and told him they'd give him more to quit now and transfer. These kids are coached on what to say in public. Also reports that it's like Richmond where he was getting what he agreed to then demanded more (UNLV had a bye week last weekend). If either of those are accurate then, yes, he's the bad guy for quitting on his teammates.

https://x.com/PalomaFOX5News/status/1838802285423718419?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1838802285423718419%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

I don't know who's telling the truth, but his post on his reasoning says the exact opposite of this.

[MUbiz]

I saw a post that said the collective said he would get $100k and had only paid him less than $1000.  The truth is, we will never know the truth.

[lawdog77]

I saw a post that said the collective said he would get $100k and had only paid him less than $1000.  The truth is, we will never know the truth.

As my old contract law professor would simply say. Get it in writing

[Pakuni]

@PeteThamel
Former UNLV QB Matthew Sluka's NIL representation, Marcus Cromartie of Equity Sports, told ESPN that Sluka was verbally promised a minimum of $100,000 from a UNLV assistant coach for transferring there. None of that money was paid, per Cormartie.
Once Sluka enrolled there, there was no effort by the UNLV's collective to formalize a contract at that amount. Months after Sluka enrolled and Cormartie made multiple efforts with the staff and school to address the issue.
He said the school and collective came back with a contract of $3,000 per month for the next four months. That's $88,000 less than what Cromartie said UNLV verbally promised up front.
The only money Sluka has received from UNLV, per Cromartie, is a $3,000 re-location stipend for his move. Cromartie said there was never an ask for more money after UNLV's hot start, only the initial amount he was promised up front.
When that didn't come, he evaluated his options and decided play elsewhere next year. The redshirt will allow him to play a full spring at a new school and develop with a trainer this fall. He enrolled in July at UNLV after graduating from Holy Cross and missed spring.

[lawdog77]

@PeteThamel
Former UNLV QB Matthew Sluka's NIL representation, Marcus Cromartie of Equity Sports, told ESPN that Sluka was verbally promised a minimum of $100,000 from a UNLV assistant coach for transferring there. None of that money was paid, per Cormartie.
Once Sluka enrolled there, there was no effort by the UNLV's collective to formalize a contract at that amount. Months after Sluka enrolled and Cormartie made multiple efforts with the staff and school to address the issue.
He said the school and collective came back with a contract of $3,000 per month for the next four months. That's $88,000 less than what Cromartie said UNLV verbally promised up front.
The only money Sluka has received from UNLV, per Cromartie, is a $3,000 re-location stipend for his move. Cromartie said there was never an ask for more money after UNLV's hot start, only the initial amount he was promised up front.
When that didn't come, he evaluated his options and decided play elsewhere next year. The redshirt will allow him to play a full spring at a new school and develop with a trainer this fall. He enrolled in July at UNLV after graduating from Holy Cross and missed spring.

Marcus Cromartie should know better. It could be as simple as having a personal services contract, making his client appear for 30 minutes before each UNLV home game, paing him 20K per appearance.

[wadesworld]

Dangit.  What player can I be faux outraged at for not playing because of money next, then?

[Pakuni]

Marcus Cromartie should know better. It could be as simple as having a personal services contract, making his client appear for 30 minutes before each UNLV home game, paing him 20K per appearance.

He's a former Badger. What did you expect?

[Litehouse]

Are redshirt rules different in football where you can play a couple games and then still redshirt?

[Uncle Rico]

Are redshirt rules different in football where you can play a couple games and then still redshirt?

Yes. Thought it was 4 games.

[MurphysTillClose]

Are redshirt rules different in football where you can play a couple games and then still redshirt?

yes, can play up to four regular season games and still use a redshirt

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

they paid him and reportedly another school came in and told him they'd give him more to quit now and transfer. These kids are coached on what to say in public. Also reports that it's like Richmond where he was getting what he agreed to then demanded more (UNLV had a bye week last weekend). If either of those are accurate then, yes, he's the bad guy for quitting on his teammates.

https://x.com/PalomaFOX5News/status/1838802285423718419?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1838802285423718419%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

So we have a statement from the player saying the school didn't follow through. We have no statement from the school denying it. But a tweet saying he's been approached with bigger offers by other schools to transfer....which he can't do until after this season anyway...somehow proves that the school did follow through?

Maybe you're correct, but you've provided no evidence that you are.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

@PeteThamel
Former UNLV QB Matthew Sluka's NIL representation, Marcus Cromartie of Equity Sports, told ESPN that Sluka was verbally promised a minimum of $100,000 from a UNLV assistant coach for transferring there. None of that money was paid, per Cormartie.
Once Sluka enrolled there, there was no effort by the UNLV's collective to formalize a contract at that amount. Months after Sluka enrolled and Cormartie made multiple efforts with the staff and school to address the issue.
He said the school and collective came back with a contract of $3,000 per month for the next four months. That's $88,000 less than what Cromartie said UNLV verbally promised up front.
The only money Sluka has received from UNLV, per Cromartie, is a $3,000 re-location stipend for his move. Cromartie said there was never an ask for more money after UNLV's hot start, only the initial amount he was promised up front.
When that didn't come, he evaluated his options and decided play elsewhere next year. The redshirt will allow him to play a full spring at a new school and develop with a trainer this fall. He enrolled in July at UNLV after graduating from Holy Cross and missed spring.

If this is true (and I have no idea if it is) then of course the player stopped playing. Not a single one of us would continue to work for a company that paid us 12% of what they offered.

[MUbiz]

As my old contract law professor would simply say. Get it in writing

And now the agent says nothing was signed: https://x.com/RossDellenger/status/1838987906653765990

You are right lawdog - always get something in writing

[The Sultan]

And now the agent says nothing was signed: https://x.com/RossDellenger/status/1838987906653765990

You are right lawdog - always get something in writing

This is exactly why schools should be allowed to promise NIL as part of recruitment and coordinate with collectives.

[DFW HOYA]

This is exactly why schools should be allowed to promise NIL as part of recruitment and coordinate with collectives.

No, because that's an offer of employment which, over and beyond the NCAA bylaws, run afoul of guidelines at many universities relative to human resources.

[The Sultan]

No, because that's an offer of employment which, over and beyond the NCAA bylaws, run afoul of guidelines at many universities relative to human resources.

What "guidelines" would prevent it with a bylaw change?

[Lennys Tap]

And now the agent says nothing was signed: https://x.com/RossDellenger/status/1838987906653765990

You are right lawdog - always get something in writing

When the Nigerian prince offered me the 10,000,000 I insisted he put it in writing.

[tower912]

The old line about verbal agreements being worth the paper they are printed on seems to apply here.


What does this do for the next high profile recruit/transfer UNLV goes after?

[Hards Alumni]

The old line about verbal agreements being worth the paper they are printed on seems to apply here.


What does this do for the next high profile recruit/transfer UNLV goes after?

exactly

[The Sultan]

Right. An assistant coach isn't exactly a Nigerian prince. He's a representative for the school. Should he have gotten it in writing? Yes, no doubt. But still UNLV isn't denying a verbal promise was made.

And again, this could have all been so much easier, and likely cheaper, had the NCAA and its members not fought it at every turn.