IDF targets and kills food aid workers

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

After reading four sections of comments on Israel/Hamas/Gaza and assorted diversions, the one conclusion that's apparent is that we're rather weak on the history of the area.

The Western Middle East has been a battleground since the Jewish people under Moses fled Pharaoh. Muslims are taught from the moment they begin nursing at their mother's breasts that Jews are infidels and should be killed. Every Jew since the mid-1940s has the Holocaust drilled into them from the day they nurse from their Mother. This is the classic immovable object meets and unstoppable force.

Hamas is nothing more than a reflagged, undisciplined Iranian army. Ditto Hezbollah. Their mercenaries aimed at creating instability and giving Iran plausible deniability in its ongoing war with the Great Satan. 

We see things through domestic political and social considerations. In our culture, we try to be inclusive and believe if people vote, they can change the political and social direction of our country. Nobody in the Middle East gives a rat's backside about inclusion. The whole war is about turf and about survival.

Two things are paramount in the debate. First, despite the pleadings of the President, U.S. Domestic political considerations carry no weight when Israel's life and death is on the line. Diamona exists because Israel will do any and everything to assure its survival, lest we end up with Holocaust II.

Second, when you go to war, civilians get killed. Lots and lots of them. There is no avoiding it.

As a side note, the only people who brought an even limited peace to the Middle East were Jimmy Carter and Anwar Sadat. That worked out well for President Sadat, didn't it?

Yes. That certainly seems to be the case.

[Uncle Rico]

Yes. That certainly seems to be the case.

Correct.  Regardless of administration, policy in the Middle East will be a failure, dating back to Truman

[MU82]

This seems like poor advice. Though perhaps not surprising from the guy who wanted to use the Army against Americans in 2020.

As pro-Palestinian protesters blocked major U.S. transportation infrastructure on Monday, from San Francisco's Golden Gate Bridge to the entrance to Chicago's O'Hare International Airport, one Republican senator joined Fox News to call for Americans "to take matters into their own hands."

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tom-cotton-urges-americans-to-take-matters-into-their-own-hands-to-stop-pro-palestinian-protestors/

A U.S. senator is advocating for vigilante violence as the way to deal with peaceful protests. What could go wrong?

[rocket surgeon]

seems kinda insurrectiony to me.  track em all down, use any means necessary, throw em in prison without bail, hold trials if really necessary...oh we'll get around to it some year or another as long as they are off the streets. if blocking people from doing their day to day avtivites doesn't get their attentions, maybe preventing emergency vehicles from saving lives will

    freedom of speech here is pretty cool here, river to sea by any means necessary, eyn'a?   

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

seems kinda insurrectiony to me.  track em all down, use any means necessary, throw em in prison without bail, hold trials if really necessary...oh we'll get around to it some year or another as long as they are off the streets. if blocking people from doing their day to day avtivites doesn't get their attentions, maybe preventing emergency vehicles from saving lives will

    freedom of speech here is pretty cool here, river to sea by any means necessary, eyn'a?   

Are you drunk this morning? You seem more incoherent than usual. 

[4everwarriors]

I like Tom Cotton, hey?

#neveragain

[4everwarriors]

A U.S. senator is advocating for vigilante violence as the way to deal with peaceful protests. What could go wrong?

But members of the U.S. House displaying Palestinian flags in their official office is okay by you, hey?

#shameful

[tower912]

Ranks up there with the Putin propogandists of the GOP.

[Uncle Rico]

Ranks up there with the Putin propogandists of the GOP.

Well, that's different.  They're just bought and paid for, plus, some of them don't want their bedroom secrets out in the open

[Pakuni]

seems kinda insurrectiony to me.  track em all down, use any means necessary, throw em in prison without bail, hold trials if really necessary...oh we'll get around to it some year or another as long as they are off the streets. if blocking people from doing their day to day avtivites doesn't get their attentions, maybe preventing emergency vehicles from saving lives will

    freedom of speech here is pretty cool here, river to sea by any means necessary, eyn'a?

Just so we're clear here, Tom.Cotton is arguing that people who block traffic on the Golden Gate Bridge in protest should be thrown off the bridge.
A fall/jump from the bridge is fatal more than 90% of the time.
So, in the world of Tom, 4ever and rocket, the proper response to someone blocking traffic is to murder them.

I think these protesters are a-holes and these protests do more harm than good for their cause, but advocating for them to be murdered seems perhaps a bit extreme.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

They're all fake-tough guys who wouldn't really do anything if the situation arose.

[MU82]

But members of the U.S. House displaying Palestinian flags in their official office is okay by you, hey?

#shameful

I'd rather they didn't. But yes, compared to publicly advocating for vigilante violence as an answer to a peaceful protest, I'd prefer a display of a flag.

Given that you love a demented dictator-wannabe who fomented a violent coup attempt against his own country (and also happens to be an antisemite), I'm not surprised that you love this clown, too.

[Hards Alumni]

After reading four sections of comments on Israel/Hamas/Gaza and assorted diversions, the one conclusion that's apparent is that we're rather weak on the history of the area.

The Western Middle East has been a battleground since the Jewish people under Moses fled Pharaoh. Muslims are taught from the moment they begin nursing at their mother's breasts that Jews are infidels and should be killed. Every Jew since the mid-1940s has the Holocaust drilled into them from the day they nurse from their Mother. This is the classic immovable object meets and unstoppable force.

Hamas is nothing more than a reflagged, undisciplined Iranian army. Ditto Hezbollah. Their mercenaries aimed at creating instability and giving Iran plausible deniability in its ongoing war with the Great Satan. 

We see things through domestic political and social considerations. In our culture, we try to be inclusive and believe if people vote, they can change the political and social direction of our country. Nobody in the Middle East gives a rat's backside about inclusion. The whole war is about turf and about survival.

Two things are paramount in the debate. First, despite the pleadings of the President, U.S. Domestic political considerations carry no weight when Israel's life and death is on the line. Diamona exists because Israel will do any and everything to assure its survival, lest we end up with Holocaust II.

Second, when you go to war, civilians get killed. Lots and lots of them. There is no avoiding it.

As a side note, the only people who brought an even limited peace to the Middle East were Jimmy Carter and Anwar Sadat. That worked out well for President Sadat, didn't it?

Oh boy.

[Hidden User]

Oh boy.

a lot going on there

[Hidden User]

Just as a reminder, on October 6, a cease fire existed in the Middle East. On October 7, Hamas broke that cease fire by attacking, killing, and kidnapping innocent Israelis while the world sat back and nodded approval with its silence. And now as da BOTUS sees his polling numbers plummet faster than cockroaches scatter in a kitchen when the lights are turned on, he willingly throws the only democracy in the Middle East under the bus simply to garner Arab American votes in key swing states...despicable, aina?

#fromthejordanrivertothemediterreanseaandpalestinewillbefree

#neveragain

https://www.propublica.org/article/israel-gaza-blinken-leahy-sanctions-human-rights-violations

These are from pre 10/7

[MU82]

House Speaker Mike Johnson could get ousted by his party's growing batshyte-crazy faction for putting forth an aid package for Israel, Ukraine and Gaza relief - a package that can only pass with the help of the other party.

[MU82]

Congratulations to the U.S. House of Representatives, which overwhelmingly passed a bipartisan package to provide military aid to Israel and Ukraine, humanitarian aid to Gaza, and support to Taiwan. The Senate, which had come up with the blueprint for the bill, is expected to easily pass this version early next week, and President Biden said he will sign it.

It is important to strongly support our democratic allies and to send a message that authoritarian regimes cannot simply take what is not theirs.

Special plaudits to Speaker Johnson, who pushed for this needed legislation despite the Jew-hating, Putin-loving faction that is threatening to take the speakership away from him.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Congratulations to the U.S. House of Representatives, which overwhelmingly passed a bipartisan package to provide military aid to Israel and Ukraine, humanitarian aid to Gaza, and support to Taiwan. The Senate, which had come up with the blueprint for the bill, is expected to easily pass this version early next week, and President Biden said he will sign it.

It is important to strongly support our democratic allies and to send a message that authoritarian regimes cannot simply take what is not theirs.

Special plaudits to Speaker Johnson, who pushed for this needed legislation despite the Jew-hating, Putin-loving faction that is threatening to take the speakership away from him.

Amen.

[Hidden User]

That lauded casualty ratio might start taking a hit

https://news.sky.com/story/baby-saved-from-womb-of-mother-killed-in-israeli-strike-13120661

[Not A Serious Person]

Hamas kills aid workers to manufacture Gaza food crisis, Fatah charges
A Fatah TV anchor reported that Hamas had attacked aid workers, stolen food and water and caused food prices to skyrocket in the Gaza Strip.
APRIL 22, 2024 01:29 Updated: APRIL 23, 2024 10:32

https://www.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-798185?s=02#798185

The Palestinian political faction Fatah charged on air that Hamas had deliberately killed aid workers, stolen aid and manufactured a food crisis in Gaza, according to a Palestinian Media Watch (PMW) investigation published on Sunday. 

A Fatah TV anchor reported that Hamas had attacked aid workers, stolen food and water and caused food prices to skyrocket in the Gaza Strip – which PMW said constituted a triple crime.

"Hamas' persecution of any party who is a source for distributing the [humanitarian] aid or securing it began from the start of the war, as Hamas persecuted well-known figures and teams of volunteers on the ground in mid-October [2023]," the anchor said. "It attacked them and killed some of them for two reasons: Firstly, to prevent any activity by any [other] party in the Gaza Strip; and secondly, to ensure Hamas control over the aid and its storage, which of course leads to these crazy and unreal prices that no one can pay in the shadow of this destruction.

"After the occupation bombed storehouses controlled by Hamas, the accumulation of tons of various food and aid products that Hamas had taken exclusivity over became clear, at a time when the Gaza Strip is suffering from hunger."

[jesmu84]

https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6271/Israeli-army-broadcasts-intimidating-sounds-to-lure,-kill,-and-forcibly-displace-civilians-in-the-Nuseirat-camp


Sheesh

[4everwarriors]

Yeah, certainly rape and beheadin' babies is much kinder, aina?

[JWags85]

https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/6271/Israeli-army-broadcasts-intimidating-sounds-to-lure,-kill,-and-forcibly-displace-civilians-in-the-Nuseirat-camp


Sheesh

Terrible if true, but caution via the source.  Especially since its gives away its complete bias in the first sentence without even needing to look into the group, which is a Palestinian advocacy group.  Much in the same way that everyone looks at any IDF or Israeli publication with a cautious lens on reporting.

As for the previous post, I'm shocked its taken this long for Fatah to get in on the anti-Hamas publicity action.

[jesmu84]

Yeah, certainly rape and beheadin' babies is much kinder, aina?

Non-debunked source?

[jesmu84]

Terrible if true, but caution via the source.  Especially since its gives away its complete bias in the first sentence without even needing to look into the group, which is a Palestinian advocacy group.  Much in the same way that everyone looks at any IDF or Israeli publication with a cautious lens on reporting.

As for the previous post, I'm shocked its taken this long for Fatah to get in on the anti-Hamas publicity action.

Appreciated and agreed