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rocket surgeon

Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 11, 2024, 07:18:44 AM
Not only should weekend at Bernie's be in jail for a variety of crimes, his leadership over the last 3 1/2 years has been atrocious as evidenced by his latest failure dealing with Hamas and everything else  Luckily, it appears the US population has realized what a disaster he is and he'll HOPEFULLY soon be out of office.

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Uncle Rico

Quote from: rocket surgeon on April 12, 2024, 09:12:03 PM
Love these little erasers on the golf pencils, eyna?

So, you can't defend Netanyahu is what you're saying?

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forgetful

#53
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/12/middleeast/west-bank-village-stormed-by-israeli-settlers-intl/index.html

How is this different than state sponsored terrorism?

And we might be looking at an open war between Israel, the US, and Iran, because Israel found a need to bomb an embassy to assassinate Iranian leaders.

Israel has a right to defend itself, but what they have been doing lately demonstrates a complete disregard for international laws and human decency.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: forgetful on April 12, 2024, 09:22:49 PM
https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/12/middleeast/west-bank-village-stormed-by-israeli-settlers-intl/index.html

How is this different than state sponsored terrorism?

And we might be looking at an open war between Israel, the US, and Iran, because Israel found a need to bomb an embassy to assassinate Iranian leaders.

They're the US's ally.  That's all that matters.  The rest of the world sees it, but we ignore it because of... reasons.

MU82

Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 12, 2024, 09:21:29 PM
So, you can't defend Netanyahu is what you're saying?

The dentists believe that any American who criticizes Netanyahu is anti-Israel and antisemitic, but any American who criticizes the U.S. president (regardless of which president it is) is just exercising his or her freedom of speech.

Never mind that millions of Israeli Jews are done with Bibi. Acknowledging that hurts the narrative.

And of course, there are exceptions. When Schumer (a Jew who has spent decades strongly supporting Israel) criticized Bibi, he was anti-Israel and antisemitic. When Dementia Don (a make-believe Christian who in just the past couple of weeks has made multiple antisemitic comments about American Jews) criticized Bibi, he was just trying to help.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

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4everwarriors

I see where da Buffoon's ironclad defense of Israel has now resulted in Iranian drones, of which no doubt the U.S. funded with its billion$, attacking our ally and the only democracy in the Middle East. In fact, the world's mess in Afghanistan, the Ukraine, and now Gaza can be traced to our weak "commander and chief," and how we're viewed by the rest of the world, aina?


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"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

jesmu84

Does Iran have a right to defend itself?

tower912

Iran getting involved was inevitable after Israel blew up their generals.   Bibi is the buffoon now.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Quote from: jesmu84 on April 13, 2024, 05:43:57 PM
Does Iran have a right to defend itself?

Iran is the biggest driver of terrorism, murder, and unrest in the Middle East. They are not "defending" themselves.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Jockey on April 13, 2024, 07:09:24 PM
Iran is the biggest driver of terrorism, murder, and unrest in the Middle East. They are not "defending" themselves.

Israel should be allowed to blow up whomever they want wherever they want then.

If the Iranians air striked the American embassy in Jerusalem and killed military leaders, you'd be calling for air strikes on Iran.

Double standard typical American take.

Jockey

#61
Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 13, 2024, 07:16:54 PM
Israel should be allowed to blow up whomever they want wherever they want then.

If the Iranians air striked the American embassy in Jerusalem and killed military leaders, you'd be calling for air strikes on Iran.

Double standard typical American take.

Of course, I never said that. I simply stated a fact. And the "military" leaders were Hezbollah - terrorists meeting with terrorist leaders from another country.

MUBurrow

My kneejerk reaction is that this is a face saving response by Iran designed to fail and not further inflame things. If a meaningful number of these strikes end up hitting their targets, I'll change that position. But right now it looks like these are all being intercepted. I have to think that if Iran actually wanted to land strikes in Israel, they have that ability.

The fact that even I knew these were coming ahead of time because they cut into Masters coverage tells me that they weren't actually designed to land. If this is truly the best Iran can do, they just showed their ass.

forgetful

#63
Quote from: Jockey on April 13, 2024, 07:09:24 PM
Iran is the biggest driver of terrorism, murder, and unrest in the Middle East. They are not "defending" themselves.

The first sentence can be true, and they can still be defending themselves. Israel bombed an Iranian embassy.

That would and is viewed as an open act of war for any country, and there isn't a country in the world that wouldn't respond militarily.

The entire world, and the US should have denounced that attack immediately.



forgetful

#64
I guess it is wait and see time.

HutchwasClutch

News sounds about as good as could be hoped- between US shooting down several of the missiles, with significant help from Jordan and Egypt, and Israel air defense system, sounds like almost nothing got through. 



HutchwasClutch

Quote from: Jockey on April 13, 2024, 07:09:24 PM
Iran is the biggest driver of terrorism, murder, and unrest in the Middle East. They are not "defending" themselves.

💯

Jockey

Quote from: MUBurrow on April 13, 2024, 08:06:50 PM
My kneejerk reaction is that this is a face saving response by Iran designed to fail and not further inflame things. If a meaningful number of these strikes end up hitting their targets, I'll change that position. But right now it looks like these are all being intercepted. I have to think that if Iran actually wanted to land strikes in Israel, they have that ability.

The fact that even I knew these were coming ahead of time because they cut into Masters coverage tells me that they weren't actually designed to land. If this is truly the best Iran can do, they just showed their ass.

Exactly. Iran would have lost its street cred if it did nothing. Hopefully the fact that this attack was not intended to commit major damage will mitigate any Israeli response.

But never underestimate what Netanyahu might do. He is an authoritarian madman.

JWags85

Quote from: forgetful on April 13, 2024, 08:38:00 PM
The first sentence can be true, and they can still be defending themselves. Israel bombed an Iranian embassy.

That would and is viewed as an open act of war for any country, and there isn't a country in the world that wouldn't respond militarily.

The entire world, and the US should have denounced that attack immediately.

This is fair, I don't have much against it.  However, I do think it's silly that people are acting like Israel maliciously attacked a country minding its own business when they attacked the embassy, and not that Iran has been attacking Israel by proxy for months/years.

There is no innocent victims here.  Israel is undeniably overaggressive at the moment, but anyone trying to lionize or stump for Iranian leadership are just blind Israel haters and would root for a Charles Manson/Jeffrey Dahmer tag team if they were opposing Israel 

4everwarriors

Quote from: jesmu84 on April 13, 2024, 05:43:57 PM
Does Iran have a right to defend itself?


You left out the fact that Israel's attack on April 1 took out the POS who masterminded the October 7 attack on Israel, hey?

#neveragain
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muwarrior69

Quote from: forgetful on April 13, 2024, 08:38:00 PM
The first sentence can be true, and they can still be defending themselves. Israel bombed an Iranian embassy.

That would and is viewed as an open act of war for any country, and there isn't a country in the world that wouldn't respond militarily.

The entire world, and the US should have denounced that attack immediately.

They bombed Iran's embassy/consulate in Syria a country that has no problem attacking anyone else's embassy including our own in 1979. So what is the problem?

jesmu84

Quote from: HutchwasClutch on April 13, 2024, 10:37:08 PM
News sounds about as good as could be hoped- between US shooting down several of the missiles, with significant help from Jordan and Egypt, and Israel air defense system, sounds like almost nothing got through.

The news will be as good as could be hoped when/if there's no retaliation

muwarrior69

Quote from: Hards Alumni on April 13, 2024, 07:16:54 PM
Israel should be allowed to blow up whomever they want wherever they want then.

If the Iranians air striked the American embassy in Jerusalem and killed military leaders, you'd be calling for air strikes on Iran.

Double standard typical American take.

What double standard? Jimmy Carter did squat when they seized our embassy in 1979.


The Sultan

Quote from: muwarrior69 on April 14, 2024, 07:21:19 AM
They bombed Iran's embassy/consulate in Syria a country that has no problem attacking anyone else's embassy including our own in 1979. So what is the problem?

Hear me out here...

Perhaps none of these actions are worth defending and we should just stay out of it.

When you have to bring up an action from 44 years ago, that should probably tell you something.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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