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wadesworld

It's stupid to play with a ball that nobody plays with throughout the entire season that is very different from what everyone uses. Simple as that. How we don't have a single ball throughout basketball is crazy.

CountryRoads

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 30, 2024, 08:02:57 PM
And then they hit shots.

Really a lot of tinfoil being passed around this evening.

Haha I don't care if it's true or not. Bottom line is we lost fair and square. I'd be interested in the Vegas O/U vs KenPom predicted score (assuming they are usually aligned). Would be interested to see if Vegas shows any anomaly in the future spreads for the tournament.

TallTitan34

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 30, 2024, 07:57:41 PM
Anecdotal nonsense.

Your explanation for good shooters across the tournament consistently missing wide open shots is defense.


The Sultan

Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 30, 2024, 08:12:16 PM
Your explanation for good shooters across the tournament consistently missing wide open shots is defense.

And yours is anecdotal nonsense.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

Is it a fact that there is not a uniform ball for this tournament?  Excuse my ignorance and ty. 

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 30, 2024, 08:16:16 PM
Is it a fact that there is not a uniform ball for this tournament?  Excuse my ignorance and ty. 

It's one that most schools don't use. And people think is inflated beyond what the rules allow. Which is nonsense.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

wadesworld

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 30, 2024, 08:16:16 PM
Is it a fact that there is not a uniform ball for this tournament?  Excuse my ignorance and ty.

They use the same ball in every Tournament game. It is completely different from the Nike ball that all of the Nike schools (most D1 college basketball programs) use. Wisconsin has always used some weird company's ball. Under Armor schools will use an Under Armor ball. I'd assume Adidas uses an Adidas ball. Almost nobody uses the Wilson ball that is used in the Tournament.

I don't know why there isn't a single ball used in all D1 games. Well, I do. Money. But it's crazy.

TallTitan34

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 30, 2024, 08:15:38 PM
And yours is anecdotal nonsense.

UConn/Illinois just finished 29 below the Vegas O/U.

MUBurrow

Quote from: wadesworld on March 30, 2024, 08:19:15 PM
They use the same ball in every Tournament game. It is completely different from the Nike ball that all of the Nike schools (most D1 college basketball programs) use. Wisconsin has always used some weird company's ball. Under Armor schools will use an Under Armor ball. I'd assume Adidas uses an Adidas ball. Almost nobody uses the Wilson ball that is used in the Tournament.

I don't know why there isn't a single ball used in all D1 games. Well, I do. Money. But it's crazy.

Thanks for the background wades.  Your 100% right, that's insanity.

The Sultan

Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 30, 2024, 08:22:42 PM
UConn/Illinois just finished 29 below the Vegas O/U.

Not sure why that's relevant, but cool.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

TallTitan34

4 for 22 combined 3 point shooting in Alabama vs Clemson right now.

The Sultan

Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 30, 2024, 08:31:28 PM
4 for 22 combined 3 point shooting in Alabama vs Clemson right now.

Defense has been great. Letting them play. Probably too much.

But that's what I get for watching a lot of basketball and not entertaining the crowd as a mascot.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

BM1090

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 30, 2024, 08:02:57 PM
And then they hit shots.

Really a lot of tinfoil being passed around this evening.

You're off on this one. The balls are overinflated. It's impacting play.

But it's not an excuse. The teams are playing with the same ball. Win anyways.

I don't think it disproportionately impacts Marquette and it's certainly not the reason we lost, but there's enough out there to show there are some real differences with the ball.

The Sultan

Quote from: BM1090 on March 30, 2024, 08:39:10 PM
You're off on this one. The balls are overinflated. It's impacting play.


Nope. Positive they are within what the rules allow.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Spaniel with a Short Tail

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 30, 2024, 08:38:38 PM
Defense has been great. Letting them play. Probably too much.

But that's what I get for watching a lot of basketball and not entertaining the crowd as a mascot.


The Sultan

Titans not the most knowledgeable basketball poster here. It's getting ridiculous so I'm trying to find a reason.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

CountryRoads

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 30, 2024, 08:40:32 PM

Nope. Positive they are within what the rules allow.

Without question. I agree with wadesworld point. The ball they are using for the tournament? Just use it for every game. Simple. End of discussion.

nyg

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 30, 2024, 08:40:32 PM

Nope. Positive they are within what the rules allow.

Wilson manufactures the ball at their "Grassy Knoll" facility.

TallTitan34

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 30, 2024, 08:38:38 PM
Defense has been great. Letting them play. Probably too much.

But that's what I get for watching a lot of basketball and not entertaining the crowd as a mascot.

Defense doesn't explain the open shots that are being missed.

The Sultan

Quote from: CountryRoads on March 30, 2024, 08:47:07 PM
Without question. I agree with wadesworld point. The ball they are using for the tournament? Just use it for every game. Simple. End of discussion.

The NCAA either won't or can't do that, but I would agree.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

The Sultan

Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 30, 2024, 08:48:09 PM
Defense doesn't explain the open shots that are being missed.

Clearly it's UFOs
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MuggsyB

I had not known that the tournament balls are completely different.  On the surface that does seem odd to me. 

TallTitan34

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 30, 2024, 08:48:51 PM
The NCAA either won't or can't do that, but I would agree.

Why would you agree if you think the ball isn't effecting play?

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Quote from: TallTitan34 on March 30, 2024, 08:51:28 PM
Why would you agree if you think the ball isn't effecting play?

*affecting

I just think the balls should be uniform. But they aren't over inflated.

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

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