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TAMU, Knower of Ball

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Re: FREE THROW ISSUES
« Reply #100 on: March 26, 2024, 10:34:44 AM »
I’ll just leave this here.

Marquette ranks 348/362 in FTRate (how often you get to the free throw line) hence our placement on your graph.

Please don't make me do the math again to show how insignificant being an elite FT% team would be

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Re: FREE THROW ISSUES
« Reply #101 on: March 26, 2024, 10:36:45 AM »
I had a discussion with an MU fan while watching a game a few years ago that went like this:

Him: “Damn, another missed free throw.”

Me: “He’s actually done pretty well. He’s 3 for 4.”

Him: “That’s not good enough! They’re FREE throws. Gotta make ‘em!”

Me: “So what’s an acceptable percentage to you?”

Him: “90% - at least.”

Me: “Just about all of the best free-throw shooters in basketball history didn’t even make 90%.”

Him: “I don’t care. We gotta make our free throws.”
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Re: FREE THROW ISSUES
« Reply #102 on: March 26, 2024, 10:45:25 AM »
Marquette ranks 348/362 in FTRate (how often you get to the free throw line) hence our placement on your graph.

Please don't make me do the math again to show how insignificant being an elite FT% team would be


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Re: FREE THROW ISSUES
« Reply #103 on: March 26, 2024, 10:46:19 AM »
Grandpa type of conversation going on.
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Re: FREE THROW ISSUES
« Reply #104 on: March 26, 2024, 11:10:22 AM »
Marquette ranks 348/362 in FTRate (how often you get to the free throw line) hence our placement on your graph.

Please don't make me do the math again to show how insignificant being an elite FT% team would be



Believe it or not, I posted the graph because I agree with you. We don't rely on free throws to get points.

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Re: FREE THROW ISSUES
« Reply #105 on: March 26, 2024, 11:24:20 AM »
It’s a midrange shot, they no matta

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Re: FREE THROW ISSUES
« Reply #106 on: March 26, 2024, 11:39:06 AM »
In that Colorado game, Tre Norman and Ben Gold went 0-4, the worse part of those shots were not even close to going in.  As MU should have been up 15-18 points in first half. Colorado players were excited that they were only down 11, which they took care of in 2 minutes.

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« Reply #107 on: March 26, 2024, 11:42:28 AM »
In that Colorado game, Tre Norman and Ben Gold went 0-4, the worse part of those shots were not even close to going in.  As MU should have been up 15-18 points in first half. Colorado players were excited that they were only down 11, which they took care of in 2 minutes.

Tre did not play. Ben went 0-2, TKO 1-2, Stevie 1-2, Jop 2-2.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore/_/gameId/401638625

Sorry the facts don't fit your agenda.

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« Reply #108 on: March 26, 2024, 11:43:03 AM »
Believe it or not, I posted the graph because I agree with you. We don't rely on free throws to get points.

I thought that might be the case,  apologies!
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Re: FREE THROW ISSUES
« Reply #109 on: March 26, 2024, 11:43:17 AM »
In that Colorado game, Tre Norman and Ben Gold went 0-4, the worse part of those shots were not even close to going in.  As MU should have been up 15-18 points in first half. Colorado players were excited that they were only down 11, which they took care of in 2 minutes.
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« Reply #110 on: March 26, 2024, 12:18:35 PM »
In that Colorado game, Tre Norman and Ben Gold went 0-4, the worse part of those shots were not even close to going in.  As MU should have been up 15-18 points in first half. Colorado players were excited that they were only down 11, which they took care of in 2 minutes.
Actually, Colorado saw MU shooting free throws during warmups and were pumped that we were missing so many. That was their motivation.

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« Reply #111 on: March 26, 2024, 12:23:33 PM »
In that Colorado game, Tre Norman and Ben Gold went 0-4, the worse part of those shots were not even close to going in.  As MU should have been up 15-18 points in first half. Colorado players were excited that they were only down 11, which they took care of in 2 minutes.
Please remind me how many points "close to going in" free throws are worth? ;D

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« Reply #112 on: March 26, 2024, 12:24:53 PM »
In that Colorado game, Tre Norman and Ben Gold went 0-4, the worse part of those shots were not even close to going in.  As MU should have been up 15-18 points in first half. Colorado players were excited that they were only down 11, which they took care of in 2 minutes.

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« Reply #113 on: March 26, 2024, 12:28:44 PM »
In that Colorado game, Tre Norman and Ben Gold went 0-4, the worse part of those shots were not even close to going in.  As MU should have been up 15-18 points in first half. Colorado players were excited that they were only down 11, which they took care of in 2 minutes.

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Re: FREE THROW ISSUES
« Reply #114 on: March 26, 2024, 12:29:21 PM »
Tad Boyle at halftime:

"Everybody listen! Did you see Tre Norman's free throws? Neither did I because he wasn't even in the game, but that's not the point! If he was in the game, he'd have missed as bad as Gold Brick did! And that matters, because bad free throw misses actually make their point total go down! So let's get out there and foul them more - maybe even foul Joplin with a few seconds to go cuz he'll pull a Tre Norman for sure! We got this!!!"
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Re: FREE THROW ISSUES
« Reply #115 on: March 26, 2024, 02:13:28 PM »
Believe it or not, I posted the graph because I agree with you. We don't rely on free throws to get points.
I got what you were pointing out fwiw. Also looking at NC State’s rate, I’m glad we don’t foul much and hopefully the refs don’t suddenly get tight.
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