MLB 2024 Season

[Jockey]

I honestly think that next year will be worse.

So, you're saying Getz will get an extension?

[WhiteTrash]

So, you're saying Getz will get an extension?

I'm a Scooper; "5 years to make any judgment call". 

[Lennys Tap]

I honestly think that next year will be worse.

Doubt it. Very difficult to top the epic futility that was 2024.

[Pakuni]

Nobody admits they are in a rebuild year.

This is true in MLB and NFL, but NBA and NHL teams have been pretty open about tanking/rebuilding. Maybe it's because of the draft lotteries and the greater likelihood that a single player can turn a franchise around.

[PGsHeroes32]

Sox down 7-0 in the 2nd

You gotta just start awarding teams the wins and save injury risk

[Jockey]

Sox down 7-0 in the 2nd

You gotta just start awarding teams the wins and save injury risk

So there's still a chance.

[WhiteTrash]

Doubt it. Very difficult to top the epic futility that was 2024.

Common sense says you are correct. Common sense says every teams wins 50 and loses 50, it's what you do with the balance of the 62 games makes your season.

Not trying to be a smart ass, but I don't think the average fan comprehends the abject disaster the White Sox organization is. If Getz is retained and the rumors are true that they are cutting payroll, paired with the fact that the farm system is below average, leads me to believe it will get worse. It's not like they have been decimated by injuries and just need guys to get healthy.

Perhaps there is something I am missing, besides 'common sense', that can make anyone think it will get better?

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Common sense says you are correct. Common sense says every teams wins 50 and loses 50, it's what you do with the balance of the 62 games makes your season.

Not trying to be a smart ass, but I don't think the average fan comprehends the abject disaster the White Sox organization is. If Getz is retained and the rumors are true that they are cutting payroll, paired with the fact that the farm system is below average, leads me to believe it will get worse. It's not like they have been decimated by injuries and just need guys to get healthy.

Perhaps there is something I am missing, besides 'common sense', that can make anyone think it will get better?

Maybe it'll kill Jerry

[WhiteTrash]

Maybe it'll kill Jerry

A 20% reductions of profits would kill Jerry. 130 loss season doesn't rate in his top 100 problems.

[PGsHeroes32]

I am not kidding, I would take any player on the White Sox for AUstin Martin

One of the all time worst players I have ever watched. And of course Rocco plays him cause, well he's Rocco.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

I am not kidding, I would take any player on the White Sox for AUstin Martin

One of the all time worst players I have ever watched. And of course Rocco plays him cause, well he's Rocco.

You can have 2022 Leury Garcia

[MUBurrow]

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/41120235/braves-whit-merrifield-rips-state-pitching-mlb-hbp

Whit Merrifield pissed. Not completely unfounded, though I would like to see some numbers behind whether or not this is more common now.

[Lennys Tap]

Nobody admits they are in a rebuild year.

Nobody? As in it's never happened? Sure.

[Pakuni]

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/41120235/braves-whit-merrifield-rips-state-pitching-mlb-hbp

Whit Merrifield pissed. Not completely unfounded, though I would like to see some numbers behind whether or not this is more common now.

A pitcher accidentally hit me, and the only solution is to intentionally hit a player on the other team who had nothing to do with it.

[The Sultan]

Nobody? As in it's never happened? Sure.

Obvious hyperbole.

[WhiteTrash]

A pitcher accidentally hit me, and the only solution is to intentionally hit a player on the other team who had nothing to do with it.

In the AL, yes.

There is some logic that pitchers would try to protect their own teammates by not plunking an opposing batter.

[Pakuni]

In the AL, yes.

There is some logic that pitchers would try to protect their own teammates by not plunking an opposing batter.

I don't think there's much evidence, and Merrifield isn't suggesting, that the pitchers are intentionally hitting anyone. So, if it's not intentional, I don't see how threatening to hit another player really prevents it. Pitchers aren't going to stop pitching inside, because pitching inside works.

Merrifield's solution to the threat of injury hitters face from inside pitches is to ... threaten injury to other hitters? How does that make sense?
I'm not suggesting that there isn't an issue or that hitters don't have legitimate concerns. I'm saying his proposed solution -  intentionally putting hitters at further risk of harm - is preposterous.

[The Sultan]

I do think you can do some things to try to make the penalty for hitting a batter more severe. For instance, you could treat it like a ground rule double. Or say that any HBP shoulder and above means an automatic ejection for the pitcher and the pitcher who takes his place has to pitch to at least six batters.

[lawdog77]

I do think you can do some things to try to make the penalty for hitting a batter more severe. For instance, you could treat it like a ground rule double. Or say that any HBP shoulder and above means an automatic ejection for the pitcher and the pitcher who takes his place has to pitch to at least six batters.

How about the batter gets to throw at the pitcher?

[MU82]

In the AL, yes.

The NL has the DH now.

[Pakuni]

I do think you can do some things to try to make the penalty for hitting a batter more severe. For instance, you could treat it like a ground rule double. Or say that any HBP shoulder and above means an automatic ejection for the pitcher and the pitcher who takes his place has to pitch to at least six batters.

How about something like Little League rules ... two HBP in an inning or three in a game, and you're out.

[PGsHeroes32]

How about the batter gets to throw at the pitcher?

The Torii Hunter rule, I like it

[WhiteTrash]

The NL has the DH now.

Brain cramp. My bad.

[The Sultan]

How about something like Little League rules ... two HBP in an inning or three in a game, and you're out.

This seems like a pretty rare standard however.

[WhiteTrash]

I don't think there's much evidence, and Merrifield isn't suggesting, that the pitchers are intentionally hitting anyone. So, if it's not intentional, I don't see how threatening to hit another player really prevents it. Pitchers aren't going to stop pitching inside, because pitching inside works.

Merrifield's solution to the threat of injury hitters face from inside pitches is to ... threaten injury to other hitters? How does that make sense?
I'm not suggesting that there isn't an issue or that hitters don't have legitimate concerns. I'm saying his proposed solution -  intentionally putting hitters at further risk of harm - is preposterous.

I agree, not an intentional HBP situation.

I believe he was referring to pitchers throwing with little regard to where the pitch is located and focused primarily on velocity.

I'm saying there is logic to have the pitchers focus more on location than velocity for the safety of the batters they are facing and potentially for their own batters with respect to retaliation.

I respect the conclusion it is not the best solution, but it is not without merit.