MLB 2024 Season

[WhiteTrash]

Anyway, John Schriffen's take on the whole thing was pretty dumb.

He has lost all credibility with Sox fans. Beyond a shill for the organization. He deserves all the crap coming to him. He had the arrogance/stupidity to suggest the Sox record is so bad because "they keep catching teams at the wrong time".

The all time loss record is seriously in play, so maybe something historic will happen. Get your popcorn!

[Pakuni]

Anyway, John Schriffen's take on the whole thing was pretty dumb.

He's not good.

[MUfan12]

But Contreras waving goodbye to Pham after the tag was ice cold. But Contreras has played like an MVP contender. He's earned the right to chirp.

He should chirp. Pham ran onto the infield grass to try and make contact with Contreras while the whole plate was open.

[Lennys Tap]

LOL. There are about 6 wild pitches/passed balls per 1,000 pitches in MLB these days. And the Brewers are statistically one of the best defensive teams in the league.
Fine, a bump that up a percentage point. Maybe two. Massive difference.

And the idea that in the eighth inning of a one-run game a team should bypass a strong opportunity to tie for another at bat is ridiculous. And that's not even accounting for the fact that the White Sox are BY FAR the worst run-generating team in the league.

I didn't see the play. Other posters said he was out easily, out by a mile. You were the one who put the chances of Pham scoring on that play at 24% which statistically was slightly better than Sheets getting a hit (23.7%). But you didn't account for other ways the Sox could score in that situation other than a Sheet's hit - an error, wild pitch, passed ball, a walk or hbp followed by a hit by the next guy or an error, etc., etc. Sheets also could have hit a HR. And multiple runs could have been scored too many other ways to even list them. So your math (based on a 24% chance) is wrong, plain and simple. If his chance to score was 35% you probably have an argument.

[Pakuni]

I didn't see the play. Other posters said he was out easily, out by a mile. You were the one who put the chances of Pham scoring on that play at 24% which statistically was slightly better than Sheets getting a hit (23.7%). But you didn't account for other ways the Sox could score in that situation other than a Sheet's hit - an error, wild pitch, passed ball, a walk or hbp followed by a hit by the next guy or an error, etc., etc. Sheets also could have hit a HR. And multiple runs could have been scored too many other ways to even list them. So your math (based on a 24% chance) is wrong, plain and simple. If his chance to score was 35% you probably have an argument.

1. It was clear to everyone, except you perhaps, that I was suggesting Pham had a 24% or better chance of scoring on that play.
2. You're miles off the mark if you believe there was a better than 10% chance of him scoring on a wild pitch, passed ball or error in that situation.

[The Sultan]

Is that the Sox tv guy?

The whole "we ain't taking that from the Brewers" thing was tortured. I mean... they absolutely did take it.

That's what I didn't understand about the whole thing. There was no fight. There was no retaliation. In the bottom half, the Sox gave up two on a weak single and then went out without a peep in the ninth.

And poor Steve Stone, who is really good, has to work with this guy.

[MUBurrow]

For the reasons Pakuni outlined, I also would have sent him.  Also, Tommy Pham (as a dude) seems awful.

[cheebs09]

For the reasons Pakuni outlined, I also would have sent him.  Also, Tommy Pham (as a dude) seems awful.

Spent a lot of time in the Cardinals organization.

[jficke13]

Also, I'll confess to not being 100% up to date on all of the recent rule tweaks, but is there a reason why Pham ran inside on the basepath rather than in foul territory with something more like a hook slide? I guess maybe thinking his body would interrupt the throwing lane? Trying to bait an catcher-blocking-plate call? I just would have figured a little more evasive maneuver on the foul-side of the line would have given him at least a fighting chance.

[Uncle Rico]

Also, I'll confess to not being 100% up to date on all of the recent rule tweaks, but is there a reason why Pham ran inside on the basepath rather than in foul territory with something more like a hook slide? I guess maybe thinking his body would interrupt the throwing lane? Trying to bait an catcher-blocking-plate call? I just would have figured a little more evasive maneuver on the foul-side of the line would have given him at least a fighting chance.

He was trying to bait a call.  He knew he was out by a mile. 

[lawdog77]

Not sure Pham making an excuse for his bad baserunning is the authority here.
If you don't send him, you've got .237 hitting Gavin Sheets coming up next with two outs.
I'm taking my chances that Pham has a 24% chance to score on Christian Yelich in that situation.

What about a pinch hitter for sheets? Also, don't know about this guys stats, but looks like he put in the work.

https://community.fangraphs.com/are-third-base-coaches-too-hesitant-in-sacrifice-fly-situations/

[MU82]

For the reasons Pakuni outlined, I also would have sent him.  Also, Tommy Pham (as a dude) seems awful.

Publicly called out the third-base coach. Bad form.

And while I've only heard this Sox announcer in clips, what I have heard makes him sound like one of the worst p-b-p guys ever. He should have been embarrassed by that call.

[Jockey]

What about a pinch hitter for sheets? Also, don't know about this guys stats, but looks like he put in the work.

https://community.fangraphs.com/are-third-base-coaches-too-hesitant-in-sacrifice-fly-situations/

I don't think they had anyone better than Sheets.

[Pakuni]

What about a pinch hitter for sheets?

Due to injuries, the bench options at that point of the game were Martin Maldonado (.079 hitter) and Danny Mendick (.218 hitter). Both are right-handed hitters, and the Brewers had a right-handed pitcher in the game.
And my guess is the 3rd base coach doesn't make decisions on whether or not to send a runner on a supposition that the manager might pull the next hitter out of the on-deck circle to sub in a worse hitter.

[Uncle Rico]

Brewers are playing good

[Hards Alumni]

Brewers are playing good

[CreightonWarrior]

Due to injuries, the bench options at that point of the game were Martin Maldonado (.079 hitter) and Danny Mendick (.218 hitter). Both are right-handed hitters, and the Brewers had a right-handed pitcher in the game.
And my guess is the 3rd base coach doesn't make decisions on whether or not to send a runner on a supposition that the manager might pull the next hitter out of the on-deck circle to sub in a worse hitter.

My favorite thing going around about Maldonado right now is his batting avg is legally sober.

[MU82]

Strike up the band for the White Sox!!

[wadesworld]

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What a bunch of dweebs.

Oops.  I mean, what a bunch of people who understand and appreciate great baseball.

[JWags85]

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What a bunch of dweebs.

Oops.  I mean, what a bunch of people who understand and appreciate great baseball.

The dude doffing his cap not once but twice made my insides crawl

[wadesworld]

The dude doffing his cap not once but twice made my insides crawl

Lol yup.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Live by the aggressive base running, die by the aggressive base running

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Live by the aggressive base running, die by the aggressive base running

Wow,  and the Crew get em back two days later.

I don't know if aggressive baserunning is analytically the best strategy,  but it has led to a lot of fun endings this season

[Uncle Rico]

Wow,  and the Crew get em back two days later.

I don't know if aggressive baserunning is analytically the best strategy,  but it has led to a lot of fun endings this season

Keep waiting for the Crew to crash but they have been a fun team this year. 

[BM1090]

Keep waiting for the Crew to crash but they have been a fun team this year.

Same. I'm not really sure what the underlying numbers say about the likelihood of a strong regression, but the record doesn't seem fluky when looking solely at run differential.