Big East Tournament Thread

[The Sultan]

Dammit Sultan! You and wisblue have simply GOT to stop it with your rational posts.

Imagine thinking "I don't want to play this De Paul team because we might lose to them."

WTF kind of attitude is that?

[Scoop Snoop]

Imagine thinking "I don't want to play this De Paul team because we might lose to them."

WTF kind of attitude is that?

Considering the source....are you surprised?

I'm one of the oldest scoopers, so perhaps it has been decades since Marquette required freshmen to take Logic 101.

[Uncle Rico]

Wait, where's the NYPost article?

I like to share smart links

[Galway Eagle]

Considering the source....are you surprised?

I'm one of the oldest scoopers, so perhaps it has been decades since Marquette required freshmen to take Logic 101.

Foundational Logic is assumed to be taught through geometry math proofs in high schools. Personally I think Logic should be an HS requirement

[MuggsyB]

We gain nothing with regards to the NCAA tournament by playing DePaul.  Nothing to gain and everything to lose.  Now, you can create this "why would we be scared of DePaul" narrative, and whistle dixie until the end of time, but that doesn't change basic facts. 

We're now playing a tean who needed a game winning shot to beat them, with their tournament hopes on the line, at full strength. We're competing in tbe BET without our best player and every team is capable of crapping the bed.  My contention is our NCAA seeding is far more important than making the BET SF.  A loss to Nova will make little impact whereas a debacle loss to DePaul would be a Q4 loss and could drop us to a 4.  Lastly, I fully expect our intensity and drive to be their this evening vs a game with a dumpster fire program with 3 wins. 

[MUBurrow]

FWIW, I can squint hard enough to see what Muggs is getting at.  It sucks that in the BEast you can even encounter the possibility of a Q4 loss in the conference tournament.  If you contextualize this week as a tune up for the NCAAT, and largely let the ship sail on getting big minutes from TK, you can get to a place where the increased odds of losing to Nova are the lesser of two evils vs an increased injury chance vs DePaul just to get to a game that hurts you less to lose.

[Hards Alumni]

We gain nothing with regards to the NCAA tournament by playing DePaul.  Nothing to gain and everything to lose.  Now, you can create this "why would we be scared of DePaul" narrative, and whistle dixie until the end of time, but that doesn't change basic facts. 

We're now playing a tean who needed a game winning shot to beat them, with their tournament hopes on the line, at full strength. We're competing in tbe BET without our best player and every team is capable of crapping the bed.  My contention is our NCAA seeding is far more important than making the BET SF.  A loss to Nova will make little impact whereas a debacle loss to DePaul woukd be a Q4 loss and could drop us to a 4.  Lastly, I fully expect our intensity and drive to be their this evening vs a game with a dumpster fire program with 3 wins.

In no scenario would we have ever dropped to the four line.

[MuggsyB]

In no scenario would we have ever dropped to the four line.

I don't think anyone knows that. 

[Uncle Rico]

I don't think anyone knows that.

I do

[ATWizJr]

Foundational Logic is assumed to be taught through geometry math proofs in high schools. Personally I think Logic should be an HS requirement

Finance should be required.

[Uncle Rico]

Finance should be required.

Both are good ideas.

[Hards Alumni]

I don't think anyone knows that.

We wouldn't go down two seed lines for a single loss in a conference tournament.

Doesn't happen.

[#UnleashSean]

Is muggs still in full meltdown mode?


If you're scared that depaul might beat marquette, we might as well pack it up and move now. We're not making the final four if depaul might beat us.


We're also still way better then nova. Even without kolek. Yall gotta take your Xanax.

[Scoop Snoop]

Is muggs still in full meltdown mode?


If you're scared that depaul might beat marquette, we might as well pack it up and move now. We're not making the final four if depaul might beat us.


We're also still way better then nova. Even without kolek. Yall gotta take your Xanax.

Why are you attacking him? 

[MuggsyB]

Muggs isn't the problem, nor is he living in la-la-land like many of you here.  Let me ask you a very basic and simple question:

When was the last time, before a DePaul game, you thought to yourself I'm really thrilled we're playing them and not team X, Y, or Z  because it's an autowin?  Could it be ummm.....never??    I simply disagree with the majority here on this topic. I'd rather play a decent team (with everything to play for), see how we look without Tyko, and not have any worries about dropping 2 seed lines. 

[MUfan12]

Gimme the easy game where, more than likely, the starters play less minutes so they're fresher for Creighton.

The fact that this is still being talked about is peak scoop.

[PGsHeroes32]

Muggs isn't the problem, nor is he living in la-la-land like many of you here.  Let me ask you a very basic and simple question:

When was the last time, before a DePaul game, you thought to yourself I'm really thrilled we're playing them and not team X, Y, or Z  because it's an autowin?  Could it be ummm.....never??    I simply disagree with the majority here on this topic. I'd rather play a decent team (with everything to play for), see how we look without Tyko, and not have any worries about dropping 2 seed lines.

Huh??? I'll take auto wins all year

You saying if it's DePaul for the natty or UConn you want Hurley and Co?

[nyg]

Muggs isn't the problem, nor is he living in la-la-land like many of you here.  Let me ask you a very basic and simple question:

When was the last time, before a DePaul game, you thought to yourself I'm really thrilled we're playing them and not team X, Y, or Z  because it's an autowin?  Could it be ummm.....never??    I simply disagree with the majority here on this topic. I'd rather play a decent team (with everything to play for), see how we look without Tyko, and not have any worries about dropping 2 seed lines.

Move on, MU is not playing Depaul, it's over.  You rely upon too much speculation and nerves all the time.

Consensus is an MU loss tonight and probably a 3 seed in NCAAT.  Rest for the team for next week. Win tonight, along with Creighton and the #2 seed game is tomorrow night.  The only wrench is if Providence beats CU.  Thats it, move on with your Depaul theories. 

[wisblue]

Muggs isn't the problem, nor is he living in la-la-land like many of you here.  Let me ask you a very basic and simple question:

When was the last time, before a DePaul game, you thought to yourself I'm really thrilled we're playing them and not team X, Y, or Z  because it's an autowin?  Could it be ummm.....never??    I simply disagree with the majority here on this topic. I'd rather play a decent team (with everything to play for), see how we look without Tyko, and not have any worries about dropping 2 seed lines.

By playing DePaul you'd  get the best of both worlds. A win to advance to the BET semifinals (which MU hasn't done all that often) and then a chance to play a decent (or better) team with a lot to play for, and see (again) how  the team looks without Kolek. Dropping two seed lines is not happening based on anything MU does in the BET. Maybe a couple of spots on the seed LIST based on what some other teams do, but not two lines.

It wasn't that long ago that you told me "it was only two games" when I suggested that Creighton's win over UConn put them in position to possibly pass MU on the seed list if they could beat MU both at home and in the BET. Apparently you've changed your mind about how much impact one game can have.

[tower912]

Let muggsy process theoretical future opponents any way he wants.

[wadesworld]

Boy, the whole, "I don't care about the BET/the only thing that matters this year is the NCAAT" narrative on Scoop went out of the window QUICK when the BET started, didn't it?

[#UnleashSean]

Boy, the whole, "I don't care about the BET/the only thing that matters this year is the NCAAT" narrative on Scoop went out of the window QUICK when the BET started, didn't it?

This whole site has gone nuts. Freaking out over Nova now. Our team is still very very good without Kolek. If we cant beat a sub 30 team without him, we're not winning the championship with him.

[JakeBarnes]

Win Anyways (unless it's depaul)

[MU82]

Saying "I'd rather Marquette play the worst team in Big East history instead of an NCAA bubble team with a lot of experienced players," is not the same thing as saying, "I'm afraid of Villanova." It's basic logic.

Nor is it "freaking out."

And saying, "If we can beat Creighton to wrap up the 2-seed, great, but it's not important enough to risk playing Kolek," is pretty consistent with the things many Scoopers have been saying ever since Kolek got hurt.

[Spotcheck Billy]

Nova can't beat Shaka