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Scoop Snoop

Quote from: MU82 on March 06, 2024, 10:34:57 AM
You're right about all this, including what you said about the poster you responded to.

It reminds me of those who actually think the reason we lost to Purdue was Lance Jones throwing in a 75-foot shot at the halftime buzzer. As if the rest of the game - including the entire 20 minutes of the second half - didn't matter.

I will add that any post-game comments that begin with "If" and finish with "we would have won", while technically correct, ignore everything else that transpired. How about this? (St. John's game, NYC) " If" we protected our 13 point lead by solid defense and making shots late in the game, Kolek's missed FTs would not have made anyone nervous.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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muwarrior69

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 05, 2024, 08:33:45 AM
When a game is lost by a point or two, fans of the losing team focus like lasers on the last missed FTs or missed final shot. They often refuse to take the entire game into consideration and admit that there were many missed shots, free throws, fouls-questionable and/or missed-and perhaps a technical that could just as easily be identified as the reason their team lost. Defensive failures that allowed the opponents easy opportunities to score often escape blame for the loss. Post game comments begin with the word "IF" and end with "we would have won".

With the clock stopped and everyone nervously watching the FTs leave the shooters hand, I think FTs get more attention than they deserve. 


Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 06, 2024, 10:12:51 AM
You have quite a talent for distorting anything and everything that does not fit into your neat little theories. My point was that there are many things that happen during a game that can be identified as the reason one's team lost. I listed some and will add a couple more- missed rebound opportunities and turnovers, especially unforced ones. You took my point and tried to twist it to support an apparent obsession with FTs. Nice try, but no cigar.

I am not sure how I twisted anything. You clearly state last missed FT or final shots.

Spotcheck Billy

He clearly stated that fans of the losing team focus on last missed FT or final shots.

muwarrior69

Quote from: Spotcheck Billy on March 06, 2024, 11:26:34 AM
He clearly stated that fans of the losing team focus on last missed FT or final shots.

...and I am sure fans of the winning team focus on the last missed FTs or final shot as well. Every fan is focused on that last play when it determines the outcome of the game.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 06, 2024, 11:37:14 AM
...and I am sure fans of the winning team focus on the last missed FTs or final shot as well. Every fan is focused on that last play when it determines the outcome of the game.

Read MU 82's post regarding the Purdue game and maybe you will be able to understand, but only if you read it with an open mind.
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muwarrior69

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on March 06, 2024, 11:43:00 AM
Read MU 82's post regarding the Purdue game and maybe you will be able to understand, but only if you read it with an open mind.

Look, I'll concede there were some here that complained that circus shot to end the first half against Purdue cost us the game, but again your first sentence clearly says the last missed free throws or final shot and that is what I was commenting about. In fact it was Ty and Kam's failure to tie the game in the final seconds to take the game into OT that cost us a chance to win that game.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: muwarrior69 on March 06, 2024, 03:06:06 PM
Look, I'll concede there were some here that complained that circus shot to end the first half against Purdue cost us the game, but again your first sentence clearly says the last missed free throws or final shot and that is what I was commenting about. In fact it was Ty and Kam's failure to tie the game in the final seconds to take the game into OT that cost us a chance to win that game.

And what follows that first sentence? "They often fail to take the entire game into consideration..."  I see the game as a whole. Of course everyone is watching those last shots, but again...the reasons that the game is won or lost cannot be assigned to any one thing. The GAME is won or lost, not the final FTs or shot. They are part of the whole.

I'm done here.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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