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Jay Bee

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 13, 2024, 09:53:40 AM
Might as well sit have Kolek sit out the whole BET.  Get right for the NCAAs. 

Not expecting the committee to do us any favors seeding wise. Either get to the BET final without Kolek to earn a 2 seed or expect a 3 seed.

He ain't gonna be "right" because of an extra week of not playing in a real game, imo

#pray
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The Thing

If we bow out against Nova with no word on Kolek would they drop us to a 4? Is it even a possibility? I would not want to see that.

Its DJOver

Quote from: The Thing on March 13, 2024, 09:56:57 AM
If we bow out against Nova with no word on Kolek would they drop us to a 4? Is it even a possibility? I would not want to see that.

0% chance.
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

Shooter McGavin

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Quote from: Elonsmusk on March 13, 2024, 09:47:56 AM
So, if true, we are down to at most 2 additional potential games/dates for Tyler to play before NCAA - Friday and Saturday.  Just not sure I feel its worth it to essentially accelerate his return by a full week if he still isn't cleared for Thursday?

My concern is on the defensive end - I just see teams wanting to run him through a lot of ball screens.  The pounding I see Stevie Mitchell take getting around/through ball screens seems to entail a lot of direct shots to the ribs/oblique area, is almost alarming at times.

That being said I have zero expertise on these matters, just opining more from a seemingly common sense perspective.

Agreed, especially if there is any lingering pain or a pulling sensation.  Not worth it. 

MU82

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 13, 2024, 09:55:41 AM
2 or 3 seed makes little difference IMO.

Yessir. To me, it's not worth subjecting Kolek to the violence of the Big East Tournament just to be 7th or 8th on the S-curve vs 10th or 11th.

Even if he was close to 100%, I'd be concerned about him playing in the BET. But it's pretty clear that he isn't, so there's absolutely no reason to risk it.
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Jay Bee

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cheebs09

Quote from: Jay Bee on March 13, 2024, 10:01:23 AM
Hello, Omaha!

At least we will be familiar with the shooting background!

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: Jay Bee on March 13, 2024, 10:01:23 AM
Hello, Omaha!

Or Pittsburgh, if Baylor and Iowa State are both ahead of us.

CountryRoads

Quote from: MU82 on March 13, 2024, 10:00:44 AM
Yessir. To me, it's not worth subjecting Kolek to the violence of the Big East Tournament just to be 7th or 8th on the S-curve vs 10th or 11th.

Even if he was close to 100%, I'd be concerned about him playing in the BET. But it's pretty clear that he isn't, so there's absolutely no reason to risk it.

Kolek coming back and having a bad game in a losing effort would do more harm than good for our seed. It's best just not to show the committee where he's at and announce he's cleared (assuming he is or will be by next week) once we are done competing in the BET. We've already proven what we are with him.

MuggsyB

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 13, 2024, 09:55:41 AM
2 or 3 seed makes little difference IMO.

It can make a difference in the 1st rd. 

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on March 13, 2024, 09:43:03 AM
Rico,  you've said this definitively a couple times.  Can't tell if it's sarcasm or not.  Inside information?

No inside information.  All hunch
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Jay Bee

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on March 13, 2024, 10:11:44 AM
Or Pittsburgh, if Baylor and Iowa State are both ahead of us.

They would play in the b12 semis, yes? Ugh, I'm gonna have to pay attention to some of these Conf tourneys
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GoldenEagles03

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 13, 2024, 09:55:41 AM
2 or 3 seed makes little difference IMO.

The quality of opponent on the 14 line is a lot better than the 15 IMO.
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Jay Bee

Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 13, 2024, 10:23:27 AM
No inside information.  All hunch

Can't imagine Tyler would be ok not trying for at least 14 seconds (no porcini) in they tourney, and the staff would say "fine, you've earned that"

May be ugly, but I envision him on the court at some point this month
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MuggsyB

Quote from: CountryRoads on March 13, 2024, 10:12:19 AM
Kolek coming back and having a bad game in a losing effort would do more harm than good for our seed. It's best just not to show the committee where he's at and announce he's cleared (assuming he is or will be by next week) once we are done competing in the BET. We've already proven what we are with him.

This is an angle I hadn't thought about but you may have a point.  My general take is him not playing at all in the BET is a bit of a concern.  If he could go 20 mins or so I think he puts himself in a better position to succeed in the NCAA tournament.

Now, maybe our 1st game will allow him to ease into playing full throttle a week from Sat/Sun but that's a major risk.  We desperately need the young man CR, and the idea of him not playing a game in like a month worries me a bit. 

MuggsyB

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 13, 2024, 10:24:48 AM
The quality of opponent on the 14 line is a lot better than the 15 IMO.

Ya, saying it makes little difference wasn't well thought out by Fluffy.  It absolutely can make a difference. 

The Sultan

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 13, 2024, 10:24:48 AM
The quality of opponent on the 14 line is a lot better than the 15 IMO.

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 13, 2024, 10:27:54 AM
Ya, saying it makes little difference wasn't well thought out by Fluffy.  It absolutely can make a difference. 

Well, I'm not worried. Teams with national championship aspirations shouldn't be worried about their first round opponent. If they lose, they likely weren't going to win it all anyway.

Sorry you two are worried about it. Just adds to your lists I guess.
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HowardsWorld

If Kolek is still injured and its not a precautionary reason to not be playing tomorrow than I would be shocked if he played the following week in the NCAA tournament. 1 week isn't going to improve you that significant.

Also if he doesn't play against Nova and Marquette wins I doubt he plays the next day being 1 day of extra rest.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on March 13, 2024, 10:24:48 AM
The quality of opponent on the 14 line is a lot better than the 15 IMO.

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BILL
@Whitesoxbill
Breaking: Tyler kolek isn't expected to play in the BET semi-finals either if they advance.

The Sultan

Quote from: HowardsWorld on March 13, 2024, 10:34:14 AM
BILL
@Whitesoxbill
Breaking: Tyler kolek isn't expected to play in the BET semi-finals either if they advance.

Who is this guy?
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: HowardsWorld on March 13, 2024, 10:38:35 AM
White Sox Bill- Uncle Rico's burner account.

I categorically deny this accusation
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MuggsyB

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 13, 2024, 10:31:52 AM
Well, I'm not worried. Teams with national championship aspirations shouldn't be worried about their first round opponent. If they lose, they likely weren't going to win it all anyway.

Sorry you two are worried about it. Just adds to your lists I guess.

That's honestly a non sequitur Fluffy.  We're talking about basic facts here and why there actually is a difference between a #2 or #3 seed. 

mu_eyeballs

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on March 13, 2024, 10:31:52 AM
Well, I'm not worried. Teams with national championship aspirations shouldn't be worried about their first round opponent. If they lose, they likely weren't going to win it all anyway.

Sorry you two are worried about it. Just adds to your lists I guess.

This!  We have played the 11th, 3rd and 63rd net teams without TK...VERY well and likely would have won 2 of 3 with a team not fighting a virus.  14 seed teams are likely going to be 100ish(plus or minus 5) in the NET.  I have very minor concerns about THIS team winning a neutral sight game against a 100ish net team with or without TK.

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