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Re: NIL legal update
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2024, 06:43:03 PM »
It just suspends a rule that everyone was ignoring anyway.
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Re: NIL legal update
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2024, 07:11:54 PM »
It just suspends a rule that everyone was ignoring anyway.

Thanks for clarifying

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Re: NIL legal update
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2024, 07:32:02 PM »
I believe the only thing that would help schools out from players transferring out after a year is that in the contract they sign they would have to repay all of the money if they leave for another school. If they leave for the NBA it would be like any normal player forfeiting his eligibility.

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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2024, 07:44:02 PM »
How can anything be required to be repaid if it was by a third party for some service performed?
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Re: NIL legal update
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2024, 08:47:42 AM »
this is going to be the demise of "amateur" ncaa b-ball and probably football as well.  these guys are bouncing around like wack a moles.  how can one expect a coach to manage teams year to year under this type of duress?

some kind of contract NEEDS to be signed at least...a lot of time and energy goes into recruitment and retention of players as it is

this NIL thing seems to be making the rules as they go.  it has allowed what was once "under the table" negotiations to be continued in broad daylight

next up-salary caps and luxury taxes and hmmmm
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2024, 09:23:30 AM »
this is going to be the demise of "amateur" ncaa b-ball and probably football as well.  these guys are bouncing around like wack a moles.  how can one expect a coach to manage teams year to year under this type of duress?

some kind of contract NEEDS to be signed at least...a lot of time and energy goes into recruitment and retention of players as it is

this NIL thing seems to be making the rules as they go.  it has allowed what was once "under the table" negotiations to be continued in broad daylight

next up-salary caps and luxury taxes and hmmmm

Right. It was always going on, so why will this suddenly end college athletics?
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Re: NIL legal update
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2024, 09:27:31 AM »
Right. It was always going on, so why will this suddenly end college athletics?

The playing field won’t be even!
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Re: NIL legal update
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2024, 09:28:19 AM »
How can anything be required to be repaid if it was by a third party for some service performed?
You can do almost anything under a legally executed contract.

A separate but relevant question, would anyone sign that agreement?

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Re: NIL legal update
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2024, 09:38:03 AM »
Some people need to pump their brakes. This is a preliminary injunction from an Eastern District of Tennessee judge. This issue is on the 10 yard line with 90 yards to go before the issue is settled.

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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2024, 09:53:10 AM »
Some people need to pump their brakes. This is a preliminary injunction from an Eastern District of Tennessee judge. This issue is on the 10 yard line with 90 yards to go before the issue is settled.

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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2024, 10:50:06 AM »
You can do almost anything under a legally executed contract.

A separate but relevant question, would anyone sign that agreement?

Correct.
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« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2024, 10:50:35 AM »
this is going to be the demise of "amateur" ncaa b-ball and probably football as well.  these guys are bouncing around like wack a moles.  how can one expect a coach to manage teams year to year under this type of duress?

some kind of contract NEEDS to be signed at least...a lot of time and energy goes into recruitment and retention of players as it is

this NIL thing seems to be making the rules as they go.  it has allowed what was once "under the table" negotiations to be continued in broad daylight

next up-salary caps and luxury taxes and hmmmm


The demise of amateur athletics?  Good.
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Re: NIL legal update
« Reply #13 on: February 24, 2024, 11:07:33 AM »
Some people need to pump their brakes. This is a preliminary injunction from an Eastern District of Tennessee judge. This issue is on the 10 yard line with 90 yards to go before the issue is settled.

Agree.  Feels like this issue will ultimately end up in SC.

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Re: NIL legal update
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2024, 02:46:06 PM »
this is going to be the demise of "amateur" ncaa b-ball and probably football as well.  these guys are bouncing around like wack a moles.  how can one expect a coach to manage teams year to year under this type of duress?

some kind of contract NEEDS to be signed at least...a lot of time and energy goes into recruitment and retention of players as it is

this NIL thing seems to be making the rules as they go.  it has allowed what was once "under the table" negotiations to be continued in broad daylight

next up-salary caps and luxury taxes and hmmmm
So I’m sure you’re on board with players being able to unionize as an alternative, right?

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« Reply #15 on: February 24, 2024, 03:14:03 PM »
So I’m sure you’re on board with players being able to unionize as an alternative, right?

  just saying...i feel sorry for the coaches who don't know what kind of team he's going to have from season to season.  unionize?  no, don't like that one either. 

all i'm saying is, if you're going to pay these guys, get em in a contract to provide some semblance of know ing who your core team is going to be

if they want to be paid, shouldn't the "school" have some say in the matter?  hell, do the players even have to go to "school" anymore?
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« Reply #16 on: February 24, 2024, 03:25:44 PM »
  just saying...i feel sorry for the coaches who don't know what kind of team he's going to have from season to season.  unionize?  no, don't like that one either. 

all i'm saying is, if you're going to pay these guys, get em in a contract to provide some semblance of know ing who your core team is going to be

if they want to be paid, shouldn't the "school" have some say in the matter?  hell, do the players even have to go to "school" anymore?

Coaches get paid to manage their rosters.  If they can’t handle it, pay someone that can.

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« Reply #17 on: February 24, 2024, 03:33:29 PM »
  just saying...i feel sorry for the coaches who don't know what kind of team he's going to have from season to season.  unionize?  no, don't like that one either. 

all i'm saying is, if you're going to pay these guys, get em in a contract to provide some semblance of know ing who your core team is going to be

if they want to be paid, shouldn't the "school" have some say in the matter?  hell, do the players even have to go to "school" anymore?
You mean the same type of “contract” that allows a coach to jump from one school to another without any consequences?

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« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2024, 03:44:10 PM »
You mean the same type of “contract” that allows a coach to jump from one school to another without any consequences?

  ya know, i didn't think of this one-thank you!  except, coaches are kinda professionals already, as opposed to "students", but i think ya got me there jabs
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« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2024, 03:45:19 PM »

The demise of amateur athletics?  Good.

Yep. Also, major-college football and basketball hasn't been "amateur" for quite some time.

  just saying...i feel sorry for the coaches

Nope. Contracts and loyalty mean little to most of them.
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« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2024, 04:11:43 PM »
You mean the same type of “contract” that allows a coach to jump from one school to another without any consequences?
I think you mean without significant consequences.

Millions of dollars change hands between schools every off season in buyouts.

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« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2024, 04:18:38 PM »
I think you mean without significant consequences.

Millions of dollars change hands between schools every off season in buyouts.

Zero consequences for the coaches. They preach loyalty and accountability ... and then just bolt for bigger bucks.
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« Reply #22 on: February 24, 2024, 04:19:01 PM »
I think you mean without significant consequences.

Millions of dollars change hands between schools every off season in buyouts.

Schools ain’t paying buyouts
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