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DoctorV

Quote from: CountryRoads on February 17, 2024, 05:16:47 PM
MU talks enough trash and is cocky enough in their own right. Have to be able to take it back.

Yep.

My uncle, who only watches college basketball casually messaged me saying "everytime I get excited about Marquette for you this happens, this can't help their confidence..."

I responded with "they don't need the confidence, they needed to get punched in the mouth."

Confidence is already there internally, so are expectations.
Need the edge and the desperation, without the nervousness, going into March.

Get the mental health couch on the phone

wadesworld

Wonder if Hurley has his boys lose by 40 in Milwaukee so they're playing with an edge come NCAA Tourney time.

TVDirector

That wasn't just a run of the mill ass-whoopin...
We're talking medieval colonoscopy with no meds, utilizing a barbed wire wrapped hand trowel performed by a circus geek trained 3 sheets-to-the-wind rabid velociraptor kind of ass-whoopin...

Me thinks coach oughta forgo the cushy flight back home and all crowd into a rented PT Cruiser or two to ponder this for a thousand miles or so. 

Goose

I have one big takeaway from today, I hope MU does not play UConn on their home court in the tournament. That was an ass whopping put on MU by an extremely tough team and they wanted to make a statement. Mission accomplished by the Huskies. 100% hats off to their performance.

Zog from Margo

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 17, 2024, 04:41:47 PM
Today sucked. Learn from the mistakes. Go win the national title anyway.

If you're going to dream, dream large.

I really like this MU team but I can't see them in the FF. Hopefully, they get to the second weekend.

wisblue

Quote from: Goose on February 17, 2024, 05:26:57 PM
I have one big takeaway from today, I hope MU does not play UConn on their home court in the tournament. That was an ass whopping put on MU by an extremely tough team and they wanted to make a statement. Mission accomplished by the Huskies. 100% hats off to their performance.

As long as MU can finish second or third in the conference they will be in the opposite side of the bracket from UConn. So, if they would play UConn it would be in the final and mean that they picked up a couple of wins in the BET.


Newsdreams

Quote from: DoctorV on February 17, 2024, 05:13:41 PM
Good question.

I know what I didn't see...

I didn't see a Ben Gold that belonged, at least not today.

I also didn't see a good TyKo.

Still stand by what I said though, I think Marquette makes it farther than UConn in this years dance, and I'd bet to someone's charity 😂
TyKo 2 assists 4 TOs, not a good day for him.
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

Goose

wisblue

I was not talking about the BET and was tongue in cheek regarding playing at UConn. I do not want to see UConn at the FF, if they play like they did today.

DoctorV

Quote from: Goose on February 17, 2024, 05:37:19 PM
wisblue

I was not talking about the BET and was tongue in cheek regarding playing at UConn. I do not want to see UConn at the FF, if they play like they did today.

UConn won't get there Goose, too flawed.

Newton too flawed, Spencer will get blanketed.

I know we didn't see it today, but if Karaban isn't hitting the 3s in crunch time that team will exit to a hot 3P shooting team.

They are great defensively but give up the open 3

DoctorV

I will say that the biggest negative takeaway from me tonight is that Marquettes "fringe" players, their "culture" guys done really seem to belong with the UConn guys.

Even the starters didn't belong tonight, but when they needed a lift the Jops, Ben's, Chases of the world didn't move the needle, although I though Chase played tough and so did Tre

NickelDimer

Quote from: DoctorV on February 17, 2024, 05:51:32 PM
I will say that the biggest negative takeaway from me tonight is that Marquettes "fringe" players, their "culture" guys done really seem to belong with the UConn guys.

Even the starters didn't belong tonight, but when they needed a lift the Jops, Ben's, Chases of the world didn't move the needle, although I though Chase played tough and so did Tre
Not uncommon for those exact players to  look one way at home and another on the road
No Finish Line

MU82

Sometimes, the snowball gets rolling downhill and you just get crushed by it.

I'm not giving up on this season because of a road loss to the #1-ranked defending champions in which nothing went right for Marquette.

Obviously, we need to play better than this to advance far in the NCAAT. And we can. And we have. And we will.

Despite this loss, it's been an enjoyable season so far ... and it can still be a special one.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Zog from Margo

Quote from: DoctorV on February 17, 2024, 05:51:32 PM
I will say that the biggest negative takeaway from me tonight is that Marquettes "fringe" players, their "culture" guys done really seem to belong with the UConn guys.

Even the starters didn't belong tonight, but when they needed a lift the Jops, Ben's, Chases of the world didn't move the needle, although I though Chase played tough and so did Tre

I didn't get any new takeaways from today's game other than (1) MU was not well prepared to defend the backdoor cuts and the pick and rolls, and (2) UConn really has no weaknesses. MU will struggle with even decent teams if both Kam and Joplin produce so little offensively and defensively and Kolek plays like he did today on both ends. If MU is not getting anything from Kam, then Kolek tries to take over and forces too much. MU is not physical enough to bang on the glass with a team like UConn (or MSU last year). Oso is slight. Joplin is fairly small 4 (6'5" or 6'6") and is not quick or a good jumper. In the NCAAs, MU will go as far as the 3-pt shooting takes them. If MU is hitting from 3 (i.e., Kam, Joplin, and Kolek start shooting like most expected before the season), I think they can beat anyone. If they stay as erratic as they have been, they likely bow out early (IMO).

MU82

Yes, if our All-American PG plays poorly, we have trouble winning.

Said fans of every team in basketball history that had an All-American PG.

Kolek's got to play miles better ... and thankfully, he almost always does. Kam's gotta hit shots. Joplin had a huge game against UConn in the BET and he could again, but he sure as shyte didn't today. We need to take care of the basketball. Our defense sucked big-time, worst performance of the season by far. Etc etc etc.

I mean, we were horrible today. There's no way to sugar-coat it, and I disagree that MU somehow "needed" a loss like this.

But it was still just one loss in a season that has included some great victories and, most recently, an 8-game winning streak. I'm still looking forward to seeing how good this season can be.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Goose

82

I have said if multiple times that I feel MU has played an 82 game schedule already. Today was not a good day at the office but I bet there still are ebbs and flows over the next six games that will challenge the weak of heart on here.

Like you, I do love the regular season a great deal, but this year is different. I have had enough highlights and ready for the tournament. Even after today, I think they can achieve their team goal of winning it all. That said, I think the weak of heart are going to be tested over the next six games.


willie warrior

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 17, 2024, 04:10:11 PM
UConn's better. Doesn't mean they're unbeatable.
We sure as hell cannot beat them
Total ass kicking. Shaka has huge work to do to compete with these guys and he better get right to it.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

Uncle Rico

Quote from: willie warrior on February 17, 2024, 06:59:49 PM
We sure as hell cannot beat them
Total ass kicking. Shaka has huge work to do to compete with these guys and he better get right to it.

They beat them twice last year ding dong
"In you they have treated father and mother with contempt; in you they have oppressed the foreigner and mistreated the fatherless and the widow."

tower912

Quote from: PointWarrior on February 17, 2024, 04:09:08 PM
This reads like the lost by 3, not 30.   Total dung today.
It was almost just 'whuppin'.   That is what I wrote with 4 minutes to go in the first half and then left it untouched for 50 minutes  With 5 minutes left, I decided to flesh it out.   I disagree with your assessment that it is soft.   I give UConn full credit and am not really into self loathing.   Maybe that is what you disagree with.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

willie warrior

Quote from: TVDirector on February 17, 2024, 05:26:03 PM
That wasn't just a run of the mill ass-whoopin...
We're talking medieval colonoscopy with no meds, utilizing a barbed wire wrapped hand trowel performed by a circus geek trained 3 sheets-to-the-wind rabid velociraptor kind of ass-whoopin...

Me thinks coach oughta forgo the cushy flight back home and all crowd into a rented PT Cruiser or two to ponder this for a thousand miles or so.
Rather than a PT cruiser Shaka needs to get on his private jet and start recruiting. He needs 3 point shooters and rebounder. Because he does not have the talent to compete with the elite. This game has solidified that.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

Newsdreams

Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 17, 2024, 07:02:41 PM
They beat them twice last year ding dong
What about ding dung
Goal is National Championship
CBP profile my people who landed here over 100 yrs before Mayflower. Most I've had to deal with are ignorant & low IQ.
Can't believe we're living in the land of F 452/1984/Animal Farm/Brave New World/Handmaid's Tale. When travel to Mars begins, expect Starship Troopers

Uncle Rico

"In you they have treated father and mother with contempt; in you they have oppressed the foreigner and mistreated the fatherless and the widow."

We R Final Four

Quote from: TVDirector on February 17, 2024, 05:26:03 PM
That wasn't just a run of the mill ass-whoopin...
We're talking medieval colonoscopy with no meds, utilizing a barbed wire wrapped hand trowel performed by a circus geek trained 3 sheets-to-the-wind rabid velociraptor kind of ass-whoopin...

Me thinks coach oughta forgo the cushy flight back home and all crowd into a rented PT Cruiser or two to ponder this for a thousand miles or so.
Rocket is that you?

DoctorV

#97
Quote from: Goose on February 17, 2024, 06:53:28 PM
82

I have said if multiple times that I feel MU has played an 82 game schedule already. Today was not a good day at the office but I bet there still are ebbs and flows over the next six games that will challenge the weak of heart on here.

Like you, I do love the regular season a great deal, but this year is different. I have had enough highlights and ready for the tournament. Even after today, I think they can achieve their team goal of winning it all. That said, I think the weak of heart are going to be tested over the next six games.

What's to test, at this point?

6 games left, next 3 at home versus DePaul, X, Providence.
Next 3 @Creighton, v UConn, @X

2-4 would probably still bet Marquette a 4 seed at worst. No chance to go worse than 2-4

Win 3 home games and get a 3.

If they lose to X or Providence at home, which is possible, then people will freak out. Still will end up at 3 seed imo unless they go 2-4 and lose first rd BET.

Top option is a 2. That'll take a 5-1 or 4-2 finish with a run to the BE tourney finals and some help, which we probably don't want via overwork the week before the dance...

So, the answer is coast, coast until 3/22, which is what you wanted.
Now we've got it.
I don't mean that as a slight to you, but it's the truth.

2/3 seed are probably negligible. Matchups matta at that point.

That said, I decided today that I'm going to take my son to the Xavier game on Sunday in a few weeks.
He's 3, so he wont understand one of this groups last games at home and he won't remember the magic, but it's a sold out FiServ, and I will remind him of that experience when he grows tall.

We can't count on that forever, but we can count on that for now.
We are all blessed for that.


CountryRoads

Quote from: Goose on February 17, 2024, 06:53:28 PM
That said, I think the weak of heart are going to be tested over the next six games.

This will be true for almost everybody in the country. Almost every team will take at least one more loss before the tournament. I think main thing is just staying connected through the inevitable adversity. Have a very good feeling about the tournament this year.

willie warrior

Quote from: wisblue on February 17, 2024, 05:35:19 PM
As long as MU can finish second or third in the conference they will be in the opposite side of the bracket from UConn. So, if they would play UConn it would be in the final and mean that they picked up a couple of wins in the BET.
So now we want to settle for second or third? Why not 4th or 5th. UConn is elite. We have long wayy to go. Golden Eagles are not soaring, they are feather stuffing for the Huskies. Time to go back to a different culture than that.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

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