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Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 22, 2024, 08:59:26 AM
I'd call you a dork, or worse at a bar if you said things from those posts out loud.

Poopy head is not worse, relax Rocky, its early in the day.

Viper

Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 22, 2024, 08:59:26 AM
I'd call you a dork, or worse at a bar if you said things from those posts out loud.
and I'd welcome that. But would you?...dork 😂😂
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MU82

Viper, my man, you sound unhinged. Even somehow making a TK discussion about "the libs." I mean, who knew Goose was a lib?

I'll mark it down as you being frustrated that you can't come up with legit arguments for the point you're trying to make ... but you simply can't climb down off your hill because that would be admitting "defeat." That happens here sometimes.

Capt. Obvious? Sure. Now if only you'd accept the obvious - that the Kolek who is attracting interest from NBA teams now is not the 2021-22 Kolek who was flinging scuds at the basket and who suffered from serious lack of confidence. Your refusal to accept that makes you, what? Deputy Denial?

And I'll be happy to have a beer with you one day. We can sit down at a sports bar, watching Kolek play for his NBA team, and talk about how lucky we were to get to witness Tyler and Oso playing for Marquette. Hopefully, we'll even get to reminisce about MU's trip to the 2024 Final Four.
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Viper

Quote from: MU82 on February 22, 2024, 09:08:09 AM
Viper, my man, you sound unhinged. Even somehow making a TK discussion about "the libs." I mean, who knew Goose was a lib?

I'll mark it down as you being frustrated that you can't come up with legit arguments for the point you're trying to make ... but you simply can't climb down off your hill because that would be admitting "defeat." That happens here sometimes.

Capt. Obvious? Sure. Now if only you'd accept the obvious - that the Kolek who is attracting interest from NBA teams now is not the 2021-22 Kolek who was flinging scuds at the basket and who suffered from serious lack of confidence. Your refusal to accept that makes you, what? Deputy Denial?

And I'll be happy to have a beer with you one day. We can sit down at a sports bar, watching Kolek play for his NBA team, and talk about how lucky we were to get to witness Tyler and Oso playing for Marquette. Hopefully, we'll even get to reminisce about MU's trip to the 2024 Final Four.
sorry you are misinterpreting my posts. My wife was like...what are you laughing at...and why aren't you in the office doing your job?? (I work remote and she's off today)
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GoldenEagles03

Based on some of the answers Tyler gives in his interviews it kinda sounds like he wants to come back. Even last season he said he wants to play at Marquette as long as he's allowed to. I think he's gonna get advice(from this MU staff) to leave though. He's being mocked as high as 23rd in the draft.
VIOLENCE!

MUbiz

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 22, 2024, 09:39:54 AM
Based on some of the answers Tyler gives in his interviews it kinda sounds like he wants to come back. Even last season he said he wants to play at Marquette as long as he's allowed to. I think he's gonna get advice(from this MU staff) to leave though. He's being mocked as high as 23rd in the draft.

100% agree. When Tyler goes through the draft process and he is told he is a first round talent, he has to take that cash. If he will be a late second round and no guaranteed money, well there is a decision to be made. I think there is a place for him as well as Oso.  Kevon Looney is 6 9 and 220 and has made 22 million in the league not being able to hit a jump shot. 

Galway Eagle

I think with Sean's injury there's more of a likelihood he returns than before but it's still very slim. I think now if he's on the fence the staff says "well you know we could use you" before I think it's a "look we love you, you'll always be welcome but it's time to take the next step"

They can always sell him on taking some remedial reading courses in grad school
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GoldenEagles03

Quote from: MUbiz on February 22, 2024, 09:54:04 AM
100% agree. When Tyler goes through the draft process and he is told he is a first round talent, he has to take that cash. If he will be a late second round and no guaranteed money, well there is a decision to be made. I think there is a place for him as well as Oso.  Kevon Looney is 6 9 and 220 and has made 22 million in the league not being able to hit a jump shot.

He seems like a kid who really understands what this whole basketball journey is all about. Like he knows College is a one time thing that doesn't last forever, and that this Marquette environment will crush any NBA environment out of the water...but when your opportunity to get drafted in the 1st round is now...some would say you gotta do it.

I'd be thrilled...THRILLED if he came back, but I'd give it about a 2% chance.
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And I have no idea that this is a position of the "libs." Very strange that you decided to insert politics into this.
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Not really, if you've read his past ravings
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Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 22, 2024, 10:17:20 AM
He seems like a kid who really understands what this whole basketball journey is all about. Like he knows College is a one time thing that doesn't last forever, and that this Marquette environment will crush any NBA environment out of the water...but when your opportunity to get drafted in the 1st round is now...some would say you gotta do it.

I'd be thrilled...THRILLED if he came back, but I'd give it about a 2% chance.


Will it? I haven't heard many NBA players say "I miss the college environment."
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Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 22, 2024, 10:06:25 AM
I think with Sean's injury there's more of a likelihood he returns than before but it's still very slim. I think now if he's on the fence the staff says "well you know we could use you" before I think it's a "look we love you, you'll always be welcome but it's time to take the next step"

They can always sell him on taking some remedial reading courses in grad school
Kolek seems like the type that likes the challenges. So, absent a deep run in the dance, I believe he will take that extra year with the Warriors. He will also want to play another year in the B East to get back at some of those teams. NBA cash not withstanding.
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Quote from: willie warrior on February 22, 2024, 10:29:29 AM
Kolek seems like the type that likes the challenges. So, absent a deep run in the dance, I believe he will take that extra year with the Warriors. He will also want to play another year in the B East to get back at some of those teams. NBA cash not withstanding.

If he like challenges, why would he come back to play in the Big East with the Golden Eagles?  He's also beaten every team in the Big East.  What's he getting back at?
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Galway Eagle

Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 22, 2024, 10:32:03 AM
If he like challenges, why would he come back to play in the Big East with the Golden Eagles?  He's also beaten every team in the Big East.  What's he getting back at?

Still hasn't won at Providence!
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GoldenEagles03

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 22, 2024, 10:19:06 AM

Will it? I haven't heard many NBA players say "I miss the college environment."

A lot of NBA players also didn't play in front of 18,000 in college. The student sections make all the difference.

Each college game means so much more than an NBA game, especially when you are the one running the show.

The money is the Big factor. Gotta get it when you can.
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 22, 2024, 10:41:12 AM
A lot of NBA players also didn't play in front of 18,000 in college. The student sections make all the difference.

Each college game means so much more than an NBA game, especially when you are the one running the show.

The money is the Big factor. Gotta get it when you can.

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Lennys Tap

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 22, 2024, 10:19:06 AM

Will it? I haven't heard many NBA players say "I miss the college environment."

How many of them have you talked to about it?

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Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 22, 2024, 10:32:03 AM
If he like challenges, why would he come back to play in the Big East with the Golden Eagles?  He's also beaten every team in the Big East.  What's he getting back at?
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Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 22, 2024, 10:41:12 AM
A lot of NBA players also didn't play in front of 18,000 in college. The student sections make all the difference.

Each college game means so much more than an NBA game, especially when you are the one running the show.

Seriously? 


Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 22, 2024, 10:45:26 AM
How many of them have you talked to about it?

None.

But in interviews I have rarely, if ever, heard an early entrant basketball player say "I really miss the college atmosphere."

Because the NBA atmosphere is pretty darn incredible.
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Lennys Tap

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 22, 2024, 10:58:57 AM
Seriously? 


None.

But in interviews I have rarely, if ever, heard an early entrant basketball player say "I really miss the college atmosphere."

Because the NBA atmosphere is pretty darn incredible.

I don't believe I've ever heard the "Do you miss the college atmosphere?" question asked in an interview with an NBA rookie. Why would you expect the player to bring up the subject? Just a guess on my part, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if a lot of rookies sitting on the end of benches in the NBA miss being the star and the atmosphere that goes with it at least a little bit.

CountryRoads

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on February 22, 2024, 09:39:54 AM
Based on some of the answers Tyler gives in his interviews it kinda sounds like he wants to come back. Even last season he said he wants to play at Marquette as long as he's allowed to. I think he's gonna get advice(from this MU staff) to leave though. He's being mocked as high as 23rd in the draft.

I agree it seems like he's having a lot of fun this year and that's probably how he's feeling now. Though I take them all at face value when they say they are just living in the present moment.

When they get the time after the season to discuss the future, I think it'll be clear that the NBA is Kolek's best option. Though the story for this season is also still being written and how it concludes may also have some impact on the future.

I've decided to take the same approach and just enjoy the present moment with this team. Kolek coming back next year would be awesome. Kolek getting drafted in the first round is also awesome for the program. Win-win either way.


Florida Warrior

The Athletic has Kolek going No. 23 to the Knicks in its latest mock draft. Oso at 31 - first one in the second round.

23. New York Knicks
Tyler Kolek | 6-3 guard | 23 years old | Marquette
It's hard to be more on-fire than Kolek has been over the last month. Since Jan. 15, Marquette is 7-1 as Kolek has averaged 19.1 points, 8.7 assists and shot 48.8 percent from the field and 45.7 percent from 3. He has the Golden Eagles in a strong position to succeed moving forward. He's a crafty guard who I'm not totally convinced can dunk, but he knows exactly how to play off two feet and is an elite distributor out of ball screens. The big leap this season has come as a shooter, as he's drilling 40.4 percent from 3, but more than that, he looks much more confident pulling up when the opportunity arises. Kolek will need to prove he can hold up on defense in regard to footspeed in the NBA, and he'll need to prove he can separate well enough. But New York has an affinity for Big East players, and the Knicks also have a real need at backup point guard even with the emergence of Miles McBride recently. They could use more playmaking and distribution skill from the backcourt with one of these picks.

Second Round
31. Toronto Raptors (via DET): Oso Ighodaro | 6-11 big | Marquette

32. Utah Jazz (via WAS): D.J. Wagner | 6-4 guard | Kentucky

33. San Antonio Spurs: Tristan da Silva | 6-9 forward | Colorado

34. Portland Trail Blazers (via CHA): P.J. Hall | 6-10 big | Clemson

35. Milwaukee Bucks (via POR): Kevin McCullar | 6-7 wing | Kansas

mug644

One thing that might be notable, though I've not seen it mentioned recently, is that with Oso next year, Kolek's chance to shine may be significantly different. Those two play off each other so well that I'm not sure one without the other, especially for a full season, will be as successful as each is with the other as a teammate and partner.

Sort of that idea that Kolek's stock for the NBA may never be any higher than this year, particularly if he leads MY deep into the tournament.

wadesworld

Quote from: Florida Warrior on February 22, 2024, 11:22:12 AM
The Athletic has Kolek going No. 23 to the Knicks in its latest mock draft. Oso at 31 - first one in the second round.

23. New York Knicks
Tyler Kolek | 6-3 guard | 23 years old | Marquette
It's hard to be more on-fire than Kolek has been over the last month. Since Jan. 15, Marquette is 7-1 as Kolek has averaged 19.1 points, 8.7 assists and shot 48.8 percent from the field and 45.7 percent from 3. He has the Golden Eagles in a strong position to succeed moving forward. He's a crafty guard who I'm not totally convinced can dunk, but he knows exactly how to play off two feet and is an elite distributor out of ball screens. The big leap this season has come as a shooter, as he's drilling 40.4 percent from 3, but more than that, he looks much more confident pulling up when the opportunity arises. Kolek will need to prove he can hold up on defense in regard to footspeed in the NBA, and he'll need to prove he can separate well enough. But New York has an affinity for Big East players, and the Knicks also have a real need at backup point guard even with the emergence of Miles McBride recently. They could use more playmaking and distribution skill from the backcourt with one of these picks.

Second Round
31. Toronto Raptors (via DET): Oso Ighodaro | 6-11 big | Marquette

32. Utah Jazz (via WAS): D.J. Wagner | 6-4 guard | Kentucky

33. San Antonio Spurs: Tristan da Silva | 6-9 forward | Colorado

34. Portland Trail Blazers (via CHA): P.J. Hall | 6-10 big | Clemson

35. Milwaukee Bucks (via POR): Kevin McCullar | 6-7 wing | Kansas

Enjoy the next month and a half.

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