2024 Transfer Portal

[The Sultan]

He's a proven player and the MU backups have not proven anything yet. If Jones was healthy then fine, but the rest have a lot to prove

Yes. That doesn't counter anything I have said.

[wadesworld]

Would love Hunter to come in and run the point and be a hound defensively.

But Gary Woelful reporting MU has expressed interest in him just confirms that MU has no interest whatsoever.

[The Sultan]

Would love Hunter to come in and run the point and be a hound defensively.

But Gary Woelful reporting MU has expressed interest in him just confirms that MU has no interest whatsoever.

Just think about where he is getting his information.

[MUfan12]

Would love Hunter to come in and run the point and be a hound defensively.

But Gary Woelful reporting MU has expressed interest in him just confirms that MU has no interest whatsoever.

If Hunter was from anywhere else but Racine I'd agree about Woelfel. He's pretty tied in there though.

[MU82]

I would be very happy if Shaka landed Hunter.

If Shaka determines that Hunter is what the team needs, I also would be very happy to welcome him to Marquette.

Doesn't change what I said. The way it worked out, instead of Hunter we ended up with TK and Stevie, and I'm thrilled about that.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

What goalposts were shifted?

I said Cardet is good and stand by that. I shifted nothing. You people just attack anything you don't agree with. If you don't think he's good, fine. I do.

Rothstein
"Source: Chicago State transfer Wesley Cardet is currently visiting Providence.

Averaged 18.7 PPG last season."

Big East is going to be a gauntlet.

This implies that either you think Cardet is a little more than "good" or you have a very liberal definition of "gauntlet".

Cardet is a fine pickup. He wouldn't start for us. I'm not sure he'll start for Providence. Possible 4th/5th starters/first guys off the bench aren't what gauntlets are made of.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I'm not sure why it matters when it comes to an individual player.
George Mason isn't equal to Duke, but Tyler Kolek was a more impactful transfer than Jaemyn Brakefield or Henry Coleman.

I have no idea whether Cardet will help Providence or not. But the argument that he can't "because Chicago State" is silly.

Where a player plays gives their performance context. Saying you put up 18.7 points a game (which was the only stat referenced in the original post) is a lot more impressive at George Mason, ECU, Duke, etc than it is at Chicago State.

[Goose]

82

Hunter ending up here could be like how Shaka ended up at MU. Timing is everything. I think he is a very good fit and a position that needs some firepower. This is one guy I would like to see added from the portal.

[brewcity77]

Where a player plays gives their performance context. Saying you put up 18.7 points a game (which was the only stat referenced in the original post) is a lot more impressive at George Mason, ECU, Duke, etc than it is at Chicago State.

Entirely possible. But Cardet started every game as a freshman at Samford in the SoCon and transferred to help his uncle who had taken over arguably the hardest job in D1 at Chicago State. Cardet led them in scoring for two years, putting up solid efficiency numbers on a team where it's very hard to do that and led them to their two best kenpom finishes since the oughts.

We just saw a Northern Colorado transfer who played on two sub-200 kenpom teams transform into a first team All-American at Tennessee. If kenpom #222 Northern Colorado could have an All-American in Dalton Knecht on their roster, it's entirely plausible #295 Chicago State could have a quality high major starter on theirs.

Writing off Cardet to me seems premature. Every now and then bad programs have good players, I think this could be one of those cases.

[Pakuni]

Where a player plays gives their performance context. Saying you put up 18.7 points a game (which was the only stat referenced in the original post) is a lot more impressive at George Mason, ECU, Duke, etc than it is at Chicago State.

But I didn't write anything about how many ppg Cardet scored or whether or not that's as impressive as posting similar numbers at a different program.
I just think it's silly to write off a player solely on the fact he played one season at Chicago State.

It wasn't so long ago that people here were certain that a guy who put up numbers at an NAIA school could have an impact for a high-major program.

[SaveOD238]

Having taught Tyrese in high school, I would be ecstatic to see him come to Marquette to finish his career.  He'd bring the shooting and ball handling we need, though I'm not sure he'd want to come off the bench and pushing Chase to the bench seems against Shakas style

Given the openings, I wouldn't be shocked to see Tyrese go to Madison to play with his high school teammate McGee.  They're still close and I know Kam came to Milwaukee to see Tyrese play for Texas .

[The Sultan]

Of all the rotational players from last year, Hunter would have been 7th in EFG (behind Jop, ahead of Chase.) Now his assist rate is decent, but that turnover rate? Yikes.

If it weren't for the fact that he is from Racine, would anyone really be excited about him? A guy who can provide depth at the guard position, but that's about it. He's a pretty inefficient player who hasn't improved much at all in college.

That being said, if Shaka wants him, I'm on-board. But I don't think any of us have to worry about that.

[cheebs09]

Of all the rotational players from last year, Hunter would have been 7th in EFG (behind Jop, ahead of Chase.) Now his assist rate is decent, but that turnover rate? Yikes.

If it weren't for the fact that he is from Racine, would anyone really be excited about him? A guy who can provide depth at the guard position, but that's about it. He's a pretty inefficient player who hasn't improved much at all in college.

That being said, if Shaka wants him, I'm on-board. But I don't think any of us have to worry about that.

Yeah, I thought even for having good counting stats at ISU, he was pretty inefficient. If Shaka sees a fit, I'm onboard, but not sure he's a must get or anything.

[Uncle Rico]

Of all the rotational players from last year, Hunter would have been 7th in EFG (behind Jop, ahead of Chase.) Now his assist rate is decent, but that turnover rate? Yikes.

If it weren't for the fact that he is from Racine, would anyone really be excited about him? A guy who can provide depth at the guard position, but that's about it. He's a pretty inefficient player who hasn't improved much at all in college.

That being said, if Shaka wants him, I'm on-board. But I don't think any of us have to worry about that.

Yeah, he's been wildly inefficient.  I'd trust Shaka with him and he'd be fine as a depth piece.  Maybe they catch lighting in a bottle and he takes a big leap but he hasn't shown it yet

[brewcity77]

Hunter a good spot up shooter and good in transition, as well as a good distributor. A few too many turnovers and less than ideal size, but the biggest issue is he's not very good in pick n roll ball handler situations.

He's a good defender and Texas was better on both offense and defense with him on the floor this past year. I could see a world where Kam is the point on offense with Hunter off the ball, but Hunter takes the best guard on the defensive end. If the staff thinks it can work I'd be interested to see how it worked, but I'm not sure he's the ideal fit in a vacuum.

[MU82]

Hunter ending up here could be like how Shaka ended up at MU. Timing is everything. I think he is a very good fit and a position that needs some firepower. This is one guy I would like to see added from the portal.

I'm a big believer in adding talent if it will be a net positive. And again, I trust Shaka, so if he wanted to bring in Hunter I'd be sure he'd have a plan and it would work out.

But I also agree with what some other Scoopers are saying. If Hunter were to come to Marquette, it would mean somebody whom Shaka has considered very valuable would have to sacrifice PT, most likely Stevie or Ross (or both). And that would seem to go against exactly what Shaka has been preaching the last 2 years: taking care of his own.

I don't think this conversation is gonna matter because I doubt Hunter-to-Marquette has a chance of happening ... but if it did happen, it would make for a really interesting case study into how Shaka would handle this kind of thing.

[Big Papi]

I'm a big believer in adding talent if it will be a net positive. And again, I trust Shaka, so if he wanted to bring in Hunter I'd be sure he'd have a plan and it would work out.

But I also agree with what some other Scoopers are saying. If Hunter were to come to Marquette, it would mean somebody whom Shaka has considered very valuable would have to sacrifice PT, most likely Stevie or Ross (or both). And that would seem to go against exactly what Shaka has been preaching the last 2 years: taking care of his own.

I don't think this conversation is gonna matter because I doubt Hunter-to-Marquette has a chance of happening ... but if it did happen, it would make for a really interesting case study into how Shaka would handle this kind of thing.

I don't think starting matters so much as minutes played.  There would be plenty of minutes available for Chase, Hunter and others.  I guess the bigger issue might be NIL money.  Someone coming in getting more money than those currently on the team could cause a problem.  Either way, I doubt Hunter comes to MU.  I think Bucky is scrambling and going to make sure Hunter gets paid to go to Madison.

[MuggsyB]

The primary reason to bring in Hunter would be to move Kam off the ball more and insurance at the PG position.  We have no idea when JTY will be ready and it's unknown if Chase, ZL, or Norman can play the 1.  I do think Mitchell can for spot minutes. 

My contention is our priority should be getting a big.  We have no insurance for Ben.  I do think we will see a lot of 4 guard line-ups, and Ross, ZL, and Tre are all big guards with the athleticism to defend and rebound.  But I would feel much better about this team moving forward with a badass big; capable of inflicting damage; mixing it up a bit; and being a dominant presence on both ends of the floor. 

[79Warrior]

The primary reason to bring in Hunter would be to move Kam off the ball more and insurance at the PG position.  We have no idea when JTY will be ready and it's unknown if Chase, ZL, or Norman can play the 1.  I do think Mitchell can for spot minutes. 

My contention is our priority should be getting a big.  We have no insurance for Ben.  I do think we will see a lot of 4 guard line-ups, and Ross, ZL, and Tre are all big guards with the athleticism to defend and rebound.  But I would feel much better about this team moving forward with a badass big; capable of inflicting damage; mixing it up a bit; and being a dominant presence on both ends of the floor.

I would prefer a big but there are not many out there. Shake must feel good that one of the guys will step up and be a suitable sub for Ben.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

But I didn't write anything about how many ppg Cardet scored or whether or not that's as impressive as posting similar numbers at a different program.
I just think it's silly to write off a player solely on the fact he played one season at Chicago State.

It wasn't so long ago that people here were certain that a guy who put up numbers at an NAIA school could have an impact for a high-major program.

You're assuming two things, one that i wrote him off,  two that the only criteria I was using was where he was from.

I think Cardet will be fine. I was just pointing out some hyperbole.

I looked at the numbers Cardet put up and given the context that he put them up for Chicago State i don't think his addition significantly changes how much of a gauntlet the Big East will be next season. If he put up better numbers, i would have a different opinion.

[Herman Cain]

The primary reason to bring in Hunter would be to move Kam off the ball more and insurance at the PG position.  We have no idea when JTY will be ready and it's unknown if Chase, ZL, or Norman can play the 1.  I do think Mitchell can for spot minutes. 

My contention is our priority should be getting a big.  We have no insurance for Ben.  I do think we will see a lot of 4 guard line-ups, and Ross, ZL, and Tre are all big guards with the athleticism to defend and rebound.  But I would feel much better about this team moving forward with a badass big; capable of inflicting damage; mixing it up a bit; and being a dominant presence on both ends of the floor.

Muggsy:
One scenario that could play out is that JTY sits out the entire season and focuses on getting his body 100 percent again.

Tyrese would be a one year rental to fill the JTY role. Seems like the biggest issue would be NIL and that could be a bridge too far.

[MuggsyB]

I would prefer a big but there are not many out there. Shake must feel good that one of the guys will step up and be a suitable sub for Ben.

Benny has a lot of skills.  I'm not particularly concerned with his offense.  The question is can he rebound, stay out of foul trouble, and defend at a reasonable level.  He's shown to be a pretty good help defender and I think he has the footspeed to guard on switches.  But he also gets beat and pushed around a lot.  I would like to see him gain some muscle.

I think the two X factors for this team will be whether we can get immediate contributions from the Frosh, or if one of our Soph bigs can step up.  If both are the case we could definitely be in business.  Kam coming back changes everything and I expect Ross' explosiveness, and ability to shred nets from distance, to be a joy to watch in '24-25.  This kid has the goods. 

[Goose]

TAMU

I definitely think if one of the frosh can contribute that it changes things for next season. I think they will get plenty of opportunities to prove themselves. Who is the second Soph big?

[brewcity77]

I think there's confusion over the class status of Hamilton.

Amadou will be a sophomore, Hamilton will be a redshirt freshman. But as both have been here for a year, they are being lumped together.

[LloydsLegs]

I think there's confusion over the class status of Hamilton.

Amadou will be a sophomore, Hamilton will be a redshirt freshman. But as both have been here for a year, they are being lumped together.

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