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Pakuni

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Re: 2024 Transfer Portal
« Reply #1350 on: April 19, 2024, 10:36:46 AM »
Agree to disagree. The main point being made is that pure free market is not ideal for sports. Regardless of the current viability of the Packers, I hope we can all agree that without the NFL's forward thinking on revenue sharing and capped salaries, the Packers would have folded or moved decades ago. And that is the main point I am making. I'd argue there is no better team to use as the poster boy of the non-free market model.

But what you're not mentioning is that the NFL's forward thinking on revenue sharing and capped payrolls (not salaries) was possible only through collective bargaining with the unionized players. It would be illegal for the owners to impose such a structure otherwise.
So you can't really compare those leagues to the NCAA unless and until you give college athletes the same rights as NFL athletes.
I think some limits on college athlete movement would be a good thing for the sports. But you need to give the players something in return, and so far the NCAA has steadfastly refused to do so.

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Re: 2024 Transfer Portal
« Reply #1351 on: April 19, 2024, 10:47:38 AM »
But what you're not mentioning is that the NFL's forward thinking on revenue sharing and capped payrolls (not salaries) was possible only through collective bargaining with the unionized players. It would be illegal for the owners to impose such a structure otherwise.
So you can't really compare those leagues to the NCAA unless and until you give college athletes the same rights as NFL athletes.
I think some limits on college athlete movement would be a good thing for the sports. But you need to give the players something in return, and so far the NCAA has steadfastly refused to do so.
I agree with everything you said.

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Re: 2024 Transfer Portal
« Reply #1352 on: April 19, 2024, 10:48:44 AM »
Desmond Claude goes portaling
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Re: 2024 Transfer Portal
« Reply #1353 on: April 19, 2024, 10:50:35 AM »
Desmond Claude goes portaling

He'd be an awesome fit here.

But we know that ain't happenin'!
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Re: 2024 Transfer Portal
« Reply #1354 on: April 19, 2024, 10:52:12 AM »
Looks like his mom played for Syracuse and he's from the northeast.

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Re: 2024 Transfer Portal
« Reply #1355 on: April 19, 2024, 12:14:22 PM »
I am looking at this more as a transition stage before the kinks get ironed out. Most likely in 5 years they will have figured out how to cap NIL deals or at the very least unionize so that each school has a cap. I am for the players making money for the amount of revenue they bring in for schools, tv, merch etc.

There's alot of people laughing at the Badgers for losing two starters and saying this just the new college basketball. If we would have lost Kolek or Oso or even Kam to the transfer portal this board would have been in meltdown mode. It will more than likely hit Marquette at sometime, hell most likely every team but it will be the death of college sports. It will also be the death of most mid majors ever have a chance to make a deep run as anytime someone whos not a senior has a good season they will take the best NIL deal at a major program. 

I for one absolutely hate the NIL and transfer portal but I believe it will get corrected in the next few years. I do think however this will lead to 3/4/5 star recruits accepting bench role at schools with higher NIL payments than getting playing time at a lower college.
I don’t see how it’s the death of mid majors. Those guys get 2 and 3 star nobodies(on paper). When they make a big run it’s either just Cinderella magic and or they have some diamond in the rough superstar. in the latter case how many of those guys stick around several years at a mid major? It’s draft or portal anyways

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Re: 2024 Transfer Portal
« Reply #1356 on: April 19, 2024, 12:53:12 PM »
His ass should be active in portal already.

Why don't you throw the NIL a bag their way then?

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Re: 2024 Transfer Portal
« Reply #1357 on: April 19, 2024, 12:54:05 PM »
He'd be an awesome fit here.

But we know that ain't happenin'!


Apparently he (and his parents) want him at PG and he has been talking a lot with UConn.

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Re: 2024 Transfer Portal
« Reply #1358 on: April 19, 2024, 12:55:13 PM »
The only transfer out there thats been reported to potentially visit now is Derin Saran.  Similar game to Maxi as a big guard, shooter.  3 years of eligibility.  Wouldnt really be recruiting over anyone by adding a bench shooter like him.

I'm very high on this guy. Would welcome him with open arms. Already showed out against top 50 competition as a freshman. Plenty to project

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Re: 2024 Transfer Portal
« Reply #1359 on: April 19, 2024, 12:57:49 PM »
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Re: 2024 Transfer Portal
« Reply #1360 on: April 19, 2024, 01:07:27 PM »
My two pennies, for what they're worth.

I have serious doubts that Shaka is going to grab a portal guy from a Big East school.

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Re: 2024 Transfer Portal
« Reply #1361 on: April 19, 2024, 01:47:03 PM »
Xavier picked up another starter.

They have a competent roster this year.
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Re: 2024 Transfer Portal
« Reply #1362 on: April 19, 2024, 01:55:55 PM »
I think we're going to hit an apex and values will drop, probably sooner rather than later. The boosters paying for rosters at Indiana, Baylor, Texas, Ole Miss, and Maryland aren't spending to make a second weekend, they're spending for Final Four & National Championship appearances. And they won't all get that. Odds are none of them will even make the Final Four. How long will they keep throwing bad money after bad results? A few years? Sure, I'll buy that. But when programs get to 5, 10, or more years without any real success to show for their investments, those investments will stop.

Yep. Didn’t see this posted before i posted something similar in the NIL thread. Agree completely.

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Re: 2024 Transfer Portal
« Reply #1363 on: April 19, 2024, 02:05:11 PM »
Xavier picked up another starter.

They have a competent roster this year.

We will see. A lot of boom or bust.

To this point Miller has had great success with mid major guards

But now he’s banking on 4 of them

His 3 best bigs have massive injury histories.

The only players of their top 7 who have played in a real game together are Fremantle and Hunter.

The guards and forwards have no chemistry.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

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Re: 2024 Transfer Portal
« Reply #1364 on: April 19, 2024, 02:05:18 PM »
Xavier picked up another starter.

They have a competent roster this year.

Just looked at their transfers bit closer.  They added 3 guards averaging over 15 ppg with McKnight already on the roster.

Some or multiple of them were promised more minutes than they are gonna get.
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Re: 2024 Transfer Portal
« Reply #1365 on: April 19, 2024, 02:08:34 PM »
We could argue about nil until our faces turn Pinkerton...but why bother?

Is there No Other One for Shaka in the portal?
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.


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Re: 2024 Transfer Portal
« Reply #1366 on: April 19, 2024, 02:39:27 PM »
We could argue about nil until our faces turn Pinkerton...but why bother?

Is there No Other One for Shaka in the portal?

Guess what I received in the mail today? Words of deep concern from a little booster.
The portal's not going as they planned. Shaka has injured his hand.
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Re: 2024 Transfer Portal
« Reply #1367 on: April 19, 2024, 02:59:17 PM »
He'd be an awesome fit here.

But we know that ain't happenin'!

Crappy player who can’t shoot.
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Re: 2024 Transfer Portal
« Reply #1368 on: April 19, 2024, 03:02:03 PM »
The only transfer out there thats been reported to potentially visit now is Derin Saran.  Similar game to Maxi as a big guard, shooter.  3 years of eligibility.  Wouldnt really be recruiting over anyone by adding a bench shooter like him.

This is the guy I’d prefer.

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« Reply #1369 on: April 19, 2024, 04:50:33 PM »
Question to which I do not know the answer. If the athletes become employees, does Title IX in terms of equality in sports/scholarships go away, since there isn't a rule that there must be an equal amount of male/femal employees?

They would still be students so Title IX would still apply
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Re: 2024 Transfer Portal
« Reply #1370 on: April 19, 2024, 05:06:44 PM »
They would still be students so Title IX would still apply
So schools have to have the same amount of female student employees as male ones?

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« Reply #1371 on: April 19, 2024, 05:29:26 PM »
Why don't you throw the NIL a bag their way then?
Sorry, that is Shakas job, or yours if inclined.
So now the excuse is not enough Nil money?
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Re: 2024 Transfer Portal
« Reply #1372 on: April 19, 2024, 06:59:43 PM »
So schools have to have the same amount of female student employees as male ones?

No.
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« Reply #1373 on: April 19, 2024, 07:02:11 PM »
Sorry, that is Shakas job, or yours if inclined.
So now the excuse is not enough Nil money?

Excuse for what?
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Re: 2024 Transfer Portal
« Reply #1374 on: April 19, 2024, 07:04:07 PM »
Sorry, that is Shakas job, or yours if inclined.
So now the excuse is not enough Nil money?

All I said is you should donate. The rest of the conclusions are yours.

 

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