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MuggsyB

We all know the scouting report on MU.  Pack the paint and take away Tyko and Kam's left hand.  I felt we played almost a perfect 1st half but because we were 1-11 or whatever from distance it psychologically destroyed us in the 2H.  Is there something we can tweak at this juncture in our h-c offense?

Boone


MUfan12

How many threads do we need on this? Contested midrange attempts aren't the answer either.

In the modern game you're gonna lose 9/10 times shooting under 20% from three.

goldeneagle91114

Quote from: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 10:17:15 PM
We all know the scouting report on MU.  Pack the paint and take away Tyko and Kam's left hand.  I felt we played almost a perfect 1st half but because we were 1-11 or whatever from distance it psychologically destroyed us in the 2H.  IA there something we can tweak at this juncture in our h-c offense?

NOPE, doesn't matter what play you want to draw up. When you shoot such poor percentages from three you'll never find anything inside the paint. i expect marquette to have nothing but open looks from beyond the arc in the next few games.

PGsHeroes32

Shaka has to lose the stubborness

It cant jsut be lay ups and 3s when we cant shoot

And it cant just be culture, cause clearly even this culture isnt flawless something is going on.

Make adjustments and start using the portal the moment you can.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

MuggsyB

Quote from: MUfan12 on January 10, 2024, 10:19:39 PM
How many threads do we need on this? Contested midrange attempts aren't the answer either.

In the modern game you're gonna lose 9/10 times shooting under 20% from three.

As many as necessary until we figure it out.

MUfan12


Goose

Muggsy

MU stunk tonight and have multiple times over the past month and that is fact. One question, every player has a dominant hand and how come fans only think lefties get pushed to their off hand? Kolek's problem is not having a dominant hand that teams are scouting, there is something else going on.

I said before Xmas I thought there was a chemistry issue and I blamed younger guys playing for NIL money next year and was shot down by everyone. No idea if that is an issue, but there definitely looks to be an internal issue on the team.


Mu8891

Plan B?  No.

Shaka has hamstrung the team by not getting a single player from the portal

No bench.  No shooters.  And he's not adjusted to what MSU ... and UW etc have shown everyone else

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: Goose on January 10, 2024, 10:23:43 PM
Muggsy

MU stunk tonight and have multiple times over the past month and that is fact. One question, every player has a dominant hand and how come fans only think lefties get pushed to their off hand? Kolek's problem is not having a dominant hand that teams are scouting, there is something else going on.

I said before Xmas I thought there was a chemistry issue and I blamed younger guys playing for NIL money next year and was shot down by everyone. No idea if that is an issue, but there definitely looks to be an internal issue on the team.

Well, we are down to basically our starters so that should no longer be an issue.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

MuggsyB

Quote from: Goose on January 10, 2024, 10:23:43 PM
Muggsy

MU stunk tonight and have multiple times over the past month and that is fact. One question, every player has a dominant hand and how come fans only think lefties get pushed to their off hand? Kolek's problem is not having a dominant hand that teams are scouting, there is something else going on.

I said before Xmas I thought there was a chemistry issue and I blamed younger guys playing for NIL money next year and was shot down by everyone. No idea if that is an issue, but there definitely looks to be an internal issue on the team.

Well what do you think is going on Goose?  I'm lost.  Ty. 

BCHoopster

Quote from: MUfan12 on January 10, 2024, 10:19:39 PM
How many threads do we need on this? Contested midrange attempts aren't the answer either.

In the modern game you're gonna lose 9/10 times shooting under 20% from three.

What the mid range game helps you is when you are shooting poorly, like tonight, move in to see the ball go thru the hole, players get confidence.  Team has no confidence, the only problem MU does not have one jump shooter, Kam has great moves but now good would he be if had a jumper!

goldeneagle91114

Quote from: Goose on January 10, 2024, 10:23:43 PM
Muggsy

MU stunk tonight and have multiple times over the past month and that is fact. One question, every player has a dominant hand and how come fans only think lefties get pushed to their off hand? Kolek's problem is not having a dominant hand that teams are scouting, there is something else going on.

I said before Xmas I thought there was a chemistry issue and I blamed younger guys playing for NIL money next year and was shot down by everyone. No idea if that is an issue, but there definitely looks to be an internal issue on the team.

This, I agree with Goose. I know I'll get called out as a conspiracy theorist, but this has '18 - '19 dumpster fire written all over it.

Herman Cain

Quote from: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 10:17:15 PM
We all know the scouting report on MU.  Pack the paint and take away Tyko and Kam's left hand.  I felt we played almost a perfect 1st half but because we were 1-11 or whatever from distance it psychologically destroyed us in the 2H.  Is there something we can tweak at this juncture in our h-c offense?
Muggsy:
There is no plan B. As you saw tonight our team cannot make lay ups or wide open 3 pointers . Unfortunately our offensive scheme is build on those two concepts .

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

MuggsyB

I mean 1-17 from distance for Tyko and Kam?  How can you explain that or is it a "slump"?  From my vantage point they honestly weren't close to being on target and the majority were wide open.  I'm lost on this one. 

Mu8891

It's a team chemistry issue ...

It's evident on the Ct and I hear it's the word around the AL

CountryRoads

Quote from: Goose on January 10, 2024, 10:23:43 PM
Muggsy

MU stunk tonight and have multiple times over the past month and that is fact. One question, every player has a dominant hand and how come fans only think lefties get pushed to their off hand? Kolek's problem is not having a dominant hand that teams are scouting, there is something else going on.

I said before Xmas I thought there was a chemistry issue and I blamed younger guys playing for NIL money next year and was shot down by everyone. No idea if that is an issue, but there definitely looks to be an internal issue on the team.

My theory is that Kam and Kolek are kind of checked out as far as college hoops goes. They got their bag and are just kind of enjoying being in the limelight and going through the motions as a result. Shaka made a comment after the Hall loss something to the effect that he wants players that want to win as much as Oso. I do think they'll up their play near the end of the season. Hopefully it's not too late.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: CountryRoads on January 10, 2024, 10:38:15 PM
My theory is that Kam and Kolek are kind of checked out as far as college hoops goes. They got their bag and are just kind of enjoying being in the limelight and going through the motions as a result. Shaka made a comment after the Hall loss something to the effect that he wants players that want to win as much as Oso. I do think they'll up their play near the end of the season. Hopefully it's not too late.

I love Kam here at MU but where in gods name is he going to go???

If he actually is just going through the motions, it might not be here but hes gonna have to do it in college again next year too
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Goose

Country

Checked out? No chance. That said, there might be something that needs to be worked out or we will see more nights like tonight. IMO, the funk is not 100% basketball related.

WellsstreetWanderer

start the Freshmen if Kolek isn't into it. 1/13 is not a starter's stats. Maybe he will find his mojo if he comes off the bench

MUfan12

Quote from: Goose on January 10, 2024, 10:41:58 PM
IMO, the funk is not 100% basketball related.

Yeah there's gotta be something else behind the scenes.

CountryRoads

Quote from: Goose on January 10, 2024, 10:41:58 PM
Country

Checked out? No chance. That said, there might be something that needs to be worked out or we will see more nights like tonight. IMO, the funk is not 100% basketball related.

Absolutely hope to be wrong and I can laugh at my post in the coming weeks. "Checked out" was too strong but I think they have lost their edge as of late. I think the issue is more with them than it is younger guys.

Newsdreams

Quote from: MuggsyB on January 10, 2024, 10:27:06 PM
Well what do you think is going on Goose?  I'm lost.  Ty.
He has no idea
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Goose

Newsie

That is a fact.

But, I did know MU had a home game on MLK afternoon.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Goose on January 10, 2024, 10:23:43 PM
MU stunk tonight and have multiple times over the past month and that is fact. One question, every player has a dominant hand and how come fans only think lefties get pushed to their off hand? Kolek's problem is not having a dominant hand that teams are scouting, there is something else going on.

It has nothing to do with them being lefties. Some players are better with their off hand than others. The drop off from Kolek and Kam's dominant hand to their non-dominant hand is larger than most (partially because of how good they are going left).
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


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