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[MUbiz]

And the other reply was this:

I don't know, his white guard ABSOLUTELY torched us last night. 

[Uncle Rico]

This was the reply:

I like you and I like your posting. You provide value to this board. I have sympathy for you and some of the issues you've discussed on this board. I like that you and I want a NC in basketball, and we seem to be one of the few people who actually want a competitive basketball program and not just entertainment in between football and baseball.



With that said, you should strongly considering deleting this. This is a very, very strong accusation, and (I'm not lawyer) it seems that if someone from that side go ahold of this, it could be trouble for you and the board.

But more importantly, I'm genuinely concerned that your hatred of Shaka and inability to move on has an influence on your health. I was ready for him to go and I got my wish. Moreover, I got my bigger wish which was us hiring Beard. 3 years later, I just don't care what Shaka does. He wins? Great. He loses? Cool, I don't care. Same for Herman and Strong in football. But accusations like the above have the ability to do harm to many people, yourself included. You aren't going to change the minds of media and what other people think about Shaka because of what he didn't or didn't do at Texas because you're personally hurt for some of the things he did (didn't do) while here.



Just a quick thot...

Why has that poster moved on from Shaka?  Any good fan obsesses over the previous coach and how or what they're doing

[MUbiz]

Why has that poster moved on from Shaka?  Any good fan obsesses over the previous coach and how or what they're doing

I got better things to do than watch G league games uncle rico! 

[Galway Eagle]

I got better things to do than watch G league games uncle rico! 

Like watch TAMU and root against them!

[Warrior2008]

First, it is a 99.9999999% certainty that the guy accusing Shaka of racism is a raging racist.

His charge is so absurd that nothing else needs be said.

Second, FIFY ...

Perfectly said.

[Viper]

When we got blown out by UNC two years back there were people on here bringing up Shakas race. I mean this post is next level insanity but we've definitely had posters with moments on par. Difference is they aren't your everyday posters

probably the same idiots who call play-by-play man Steve 'Homer' True a racist

[Galway Eagle]

probably the same idiots who call play-by-play man Steve 'Homer' True a racist

   

[lurch91]

Even in the depths of our despair, I doubt we would say anything remotely this awful.

We've called that "Traditional", as in "we need more traditional players".....

[Skatastrophy]

probably the same idiots who call play-by-play man Steve 'Homer' True a racist

That guy is still employed? Embarrassing for the program

[Jockey]

We've called that "Traditional", as in "we need more traditional players".....

By "we", you mean Chicos. Almost every other reference to traditionals was just making fun of him.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Like watch TAMU and root against them!

What did i ever do to you!? 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I'll do you one better.

Even in the depths of our despair, I doubt we would say anything remotely this awful.

So a while back I wandered over to this site to see what they thought of Shaka doing well at Marquette. I found the "Point and Laugh at Shaka Smart" thread and read some of the most recent posts. It's embarrassing to admit, but I do poke my head over there after we have a big win to read what they wrote and enjoy some schadenfreude.

The poster who wrote this is "Shadow Operative". He kind of seems like their version of Chicos. The man is absolutely deranged and obsessed with Shaka. He posts multiple times during each of our games cursing Shaka, laughing when we lose and tearing him down when we win. This isn't the first time he's made up wild sh*t about Shaka. He claims to regularly speak with some of Shaka's former players at Texas and has claimed that they all hated Shaka, that he was verbally abusive, drove players to transfer, benched a player because the player's grandmother died, revealed personal information about players that they didn't want shared. Racist against White people is a new one.

No one agreed with his latest allegation. Several other posters called him out. Here are some of his responses to being called out:

i can promise you im fine. i don't ever think about him unless there's a tangible reason to, and i don't think that anything that i've posted in this thread points towards an unhealthy obsession with a guy. again, i essentially never even think about the guy unless there's a basketball related reason to.

i only really hate one sports figure, and that's jeff fisher, and even he takes up zero space in my head unless his name gets brought up.

to recap: i want to see shaka smart fail as a HC. other than that, i don't ever think about the guy, and i don't hate him. i just don't like the repeated insistence that he's a "great guy", when i know from talking to some of his former players that he's just as crappy a guy as you'd expect any major d-1 basketball coach to be, specifically in terms of mistreating his players.

i've been wondering kolek might cause him to rethink his *alleged* feelings towards fairer skinned athletes, lol.

the context is that people keep repeating over and over that shaka is this particularly wonderful man, and he's not. now, i put what i said in spoilers, and i bent over backwards to repeat that what i was saying was secondhand information from sources who i trust, and that it's not necessarily a fact, but that this idea about him has legs for a reason.

i, and many other people here with connections, have been sharing secondhand info like this for more than a decade around here, and it's never been a problem before. suddenly when the post is a hot button topic like race everyone is scrambling to clutch their pearls and distance themselves from this info. it's seriously not even remotely as big a deal as y'all are making it out to be. at this point it's an internet rumor that's buried deep within a texas basketball thread in a minuscule corner or the internet. everything is going to be ok. you all are overreacting to this.

also, pancho- you were there when a bunch of your homeboys shoulder checked me and then surrounded me at disch falk field, trying to get me to hit one of them so that they could jump me. you were *right there*, and you didn't seem to have any worries about those guys and their insanely unhealthy obsession with me. in fact someone near where you were standing (you?) was even taking photos. you were just going to watch me get jumped had i decided to make a move, all because of one line that i said to a guy on shaggy. you didn't intervene then, and when i finally brought it up on the boards you didn't admonish your friends for their psycho behavior. but now i pass along some info that shaka allegedly doesn't really like white people and now you're worried for my health? come on man, stop it. that crap is patronizing and unfounded. just ridiculous really.

To which Pancho responded:

Me? I 100% do not believe I've met or seen you in real life.

To which he responded:

you were at the shoulder check thing. you watched it happen.i walked up to you after and asked you, "what the hell was that?" you just shrugged. that's the extent of our meeting.

edit: and if that wasn't you then i've been under the impression it was all this time. you were there, yes?

The man does not seem well

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

That dude has some serious mental health issues that he should go seek help for.

Therapy is good folks

[tower912]

There have been variations on that level of unhinged on this board over the years.  I would argue there is one going on right now.   

Obviously, me and diet Pepsi.
Duh.

[BLWarrior91]

For a guy who claims he doesn't think about Shaka, he seemed obsessed with him.

Their fan base is completely delusional about their program, ignoring the fact that they're only gone to one Final Four in most our lifetimes.  Oddly enough, it was 2003.  They've won zero natys.  Even Wisconsin has one!

[Dr. Blackheart]

Mexican Coke > Yankee Coke

[tower912]

Shaka is Texas's Wojo.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Shaka is Texas's Wojo.

I don't think this is even close to the right analogy.   

So far its shaping up like Barnes 2.0.

[Galway Eagle]

I don't think this is even close to the right analogy.

Probably would be if Wojo went off and was crazy successful, there'd 100% be posters with a weird obsession.

[Galway Eagle]

They've won zero natys.  Even Wisconsin has one!

Ah yes back when the NIT was viewed as the better field, basketball wasn't integrated, half the youths were off fighting in WW2, and the tournament was 8 teams.

[tower912]

He underperformed expectations.  No postseason success.  Remarkably similar records.   A fanbase that hated his offense, hated his defense, was glad to see him go and yet still obsessed with him.    Which one am I talking about?

I stand by what I said.

[Galway Eagle]

He underperformed expectations.  No postseason success.  Remarkably similar records.   A fanbase that hated his offense, hated his defense, was glad to see him go and yet still obsessed with him.    Which one am I talking about?

I stand by what I said.

Crean?

[tower912]

Crean made a final 4.  And a lot of money off of it.

[Frenns Liquor Depot]

Probably would be if Wojo went off and was crazy successful, there'd 100% be posters with a weird obsession.

So if it were a completely different situation it would be the same?

[Uncle Rico]

He underperformed expectations.  No postseason success.  Remarkably similar records.   A fanbase that hated his offense, hated his defense, was glad to see him go and yet still obsessed with him.    Which one am I talking about?

I stand by what I said.

You're correct.

It's a unique college sports thing, imo, the obsession with former coaches.  Maybe I'm off-base, but college sports fans expand a lot of energy hating the former guys versus what you see from fans of professional sports.