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Uncle Rico

Guster is for Lovers

Goose

Rico

Many on here were shocked last year when every announcer mentioned the scouts at the game to see Omax. Oso, Kolek and Ben Gold get the most love from the announcers and analysts in regard to the big picture. I cannot remember the former UConn player that I heard interviewed last year about MU, and he said multiple times that Oso will play in the NBA for a decade+.

Uncle Rico

 :P
Quote from: Goose on December 06, 2023, 01:43:29 PM
Rico

Many on here were shocked last year when every announcer mentioned the scouts at the game to see Omax. Oso, Kolek and Ben Gold get the most love from the announcers and analysts in regard to the big picture. I cannot remember the former UConn player that I heard interviewed last year about MU, and he said multiple times that Oso will play in the NBA for a decade+.

I wasn't on the OMax doubters list.  Givony had him top 60 like in April of '22 and he was one of the better evaluators and had access to what scouts and other evaluators were saying.

When Vencie puts those guys in the top 30, he isn't doing so blindly.  As Marquette fans, the desire is for them to comeback cuz that's what we want.  Truth is, these guys and the staff know their worth outside the program and won't hold them back
Guster is for Lovers

tower912

Oso is one of the most versatile bigs in the country.  He has shown he can hang with and defend any college big.   He can handle the ball and initiate offense.   The NBA loves unicorns like him.   They all assume that they can help him develop a jumper.   
    So, no surprise.   Watch the NBA.  Watch how the good teams run their offenses.   Watch how they switch on defense.  It is easy to project Oso into that.   They love long, athletic, versatile bigs.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Goose

Rico

My goal is that Oso and Kolek provide MU fans a ton more excitement over the upcoming months and create a legacy that will be remembered for many years to come. The value of them being first round picks is extremely important for the program. Their job at MU hopefully ends in April and then on to playing for real money.
 

BobWildLoyalist

Quote from: BobWildLoyalist on November 30, 2023, 12:41:42 PM
Never doubt a winner. Someone who has survived for as long as Jose has in high level D1 basketball programs is enormously successful. Someone who is 25 is in the prime of their life. Someone who has 6 years of basketball experience in power conferences knows how to play. Jose is a man with high basketball IQ. He also has managed to avoid getting a real job. Which not a lot of people on board can say. Please stand down Sultan.
Bump.

Jose Perez is now a professional basketball player. Don't care what anyone says, the sky is the limit for this kid. Very few people can call themselves pro basketball players and play at the high level environments he has. Stay up Jose! Proud of this young man.

https://arizonasports.com/story/3544292/jose-perez-makes-professional-debut-after-leaving-arizona-state/?show=comments

https://arizonasports.com/story/3544316/jose-perez-bobby-hurley-leaving-arizona-state/


Pakuni

New mock from The Athletic has TK going #29 to Denver and Oso at #34 to Portland.

wadesworld

Quote from: Pakuni on March 19, 2024, 09:41:12 AM
New mock from The Athletic has TK going #29 to Denver and Oso at #34 to Portland.

Hope we get to see 3 more weeks from these guys.  Hope everyone has been enjoying them the last few months.

Zog from Margo

Quote from: wadesworld on March 19, 2024, 10:17:46 AM
Hope we get to see 3 more weeks from these guys.  Hope everyone has been enjoying them the last few months.

The Bleacher Report mock also has Kam going in the second round.

Jockey

Quote from: Zog from Margo on March 19, 2024, 10:26:17 AM
The Bleacher Report mock also has Kam going in the second round.

No team with 3 NBA draft picks (probable) should miss the Final Four. And if Gold can improve his defense from his 2nd to his 4th year as much as Oso, it is probably 4 draft picks.

Of course all they all need to be healthy.

wadesworld

Quote from: Jockey on March 19, 2024, 11:31:16 AM
No team with 3 NBA draft picks (probable) should miss the Final Four. And if Gold can improve his defense from his 2nd to his 4th year as much as Oso, it is probably 4 draft picks.

Of course all they all need to be healthy.

I mean, Duke and Kentucky have that many draft picks every single year.  And usually high firsts, not boarder line firsts and down the road maybe NBA players.

Pakuni

#62
Quote from: Jockey on March 19, 2024, 11:31:16 AM
No team with 3 NBA draft picks (probable) should miss the Final Four. And if Gold can improve his defense from his 2nd to his 4th year as much as Oso, it is probably 4 draft picks.

Of course all they all need to be healthy.

Happens every year, usually to multiple teams.
Last year, it was Arkansas and UCLA.

Zog from Margo

Quote from: wadesworld on March 19, 2024, 11:37:50 AM
I mean, Duke and Kentucky have that many draft picks every single year.  And usually high firsts, not boarder line firsts and down the road maybe NBA players.

In the same mock draft, Kentucky has four projected draft choices and two projected lottery picks. I'd be surprised if they could hang with UConn. Projecting the NCAA results based on NBA draft projections will not lead to very accurate results.

Its DJOver

Quote from: Jockey on March 19, 2024, 11:31:16 AM
No team with 3 NBA draft picks (probable) should miss the Final Four. And if Gold can improve his defense from his 2nd to his 4th year as much as Oso, it is probably 4 draft picks.

Of course all they all need to be healthy.

So what happens if we play Colorado?
Scoop motto:
Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on February 06, 2025, 06:04:29 PMthe stats bear that out, but

Uncle Rico

Oso and Tyler aren't ready. 
Guster is for Lovers

StillWarriors

Quote from: Its DJOver on March 19, 2024, 11:47:50 AM
So what happens if we play Colorado?

They concern me. Two high first round picks? I'm still scarred from Ja Morant, so I'd rather not see them.

MU82

Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 19, 2024, 11:48:20 AM
Oso and Tyler aren't ready.

They will be after 2 more year's at Marquette - 3 tops!
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MuggsyB

Colorado was a bubble team for a reason.  Having a great team goes well beyond having a lottery pick. 

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 19, 2024, 12:42:02 PM
Colorado was a bubble team for a reason.  Having a great team goes well beyond having a lottery pick.

Have won 8 of 9.  26 in KenPom, more like a 7-seed which is what you get in round 2!  5th in the nation in 3-point shooting.

Nonetheless, you're correct.  Marquette will/would be favored against them and should beat them
Guster is for Lovers

StillAWarrior

I think that for the good of their alma mater, TyKo, Oso, and Kam should play rock paper scissors. The winner declares for the draft. The other two stay at Marquette for another year.
Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

MU82

Quote from: Zog from Margo on March 19, 2024, 10:26:17 AM
The Bleacher Report mock also has Kam going in the second round.

Been saying for some time now that Kam can have an NBA career. Selfishly, it would be great for Marquette to get one more season out of him, but we'll see what kind of advice he gets.

Anyhoo ... Kam, TK and Oso can worry about all that after these next 6 wins.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: Uncle Rico on March 19, 2024, 12:46:00 PM
5th in the nation in 3-point shooting.

5th in the nation in 3P%

323rd in 3PA/FGA (rate at which they shoot 3Ps)

They are very accurate but only shoot a handful of threes a game. Most of their damage is done inside, they only take wide open catch and shoot threes.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


The Sultan

Saw a Kolek comp on Twitter that I think is probably the best yet - Goran Dragic. About the same size and build, with similar scoring and passing abilities once they get downhill.  Tyler will need to improve his outside shooting, but IMO that will come.  Not sure if he will get to that level, but the game is similar.

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

willie warrior

Quote from: Galway Eagle on November 13, 2023, 02:24:41 PM
Oso has some crazy passing ability for his size. If a shooting coach believes they can build him into a competent shooter they'll take a flyer on him in the second round imo. I don't see a situation where he's a first rounder given his height and what we've seen his skill set to be. Good college center but in the NBA he's a PF and that requires the ability to shoot the 3
Then he needs to come back and work on his game. Bigs are now expected to be able to shoot in the NBA.
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