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Re: 2024 Mock Drafts
« Reply #125 on: May 13, 2024, 04:33:22 PM »
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« Reply #126 on: May 14, 2024, 07:08:02 AM »
Probably not good for Oso - Using the NBA's combine site, Oso is the first player measured at the combine that's over 6'9" with a wingspan under 7'0" since Luka Samanic in 2020.

Only other player in the last 10 combines is Frank Kaminksy in 2016.

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Re: 2024 Mock Drafts
« Reply #127 on: May 15, 2024, 07:24:26 AM »
I know Shaka had a bunch of big guys drafted first round when he was at Texas but did he have any guards? Could Kolek be his first guard to go in the first round?
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« Reply #128 on: May 15, 2024, 07:45:01 AM »
That’s funny. Marquette is a school that is viewed as only developing big men!

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« Reply #129 on: May 15, 2024, 08:28:10 AM »
I know Shaka had a bunch of big guys drafted first round when he was at Texas but did he have any guards? Could Kolek be his first guard to go in the first round?

This is going way back, but Shaka had Briante Weber at VCU, who probably would have been 1st round if not for an ACL tear. Other than that, I can't think of a gard going first under Shaka at Texas.

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« Reply #130 on: May 15, 2024, 09:31:52 AM »
This is going way back, but Shaka had Briante Weber at VCU, who probably would have been 1st round if not for an ACL tear. Other than that, I can't think of a gard going first under Shaka at Texas.

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« Reply #131 on: May 16, 2024, 02:37:22 PM »
Tyler Kolek’s NBA Draft Combine Measurements:

6’1.25” without shoes
6’2.75” wingspan

How does that compare to Diener's combine measurements?

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« Reply #132 on: May 16, 2024, 04:26:22 PM »
How does that compare to Diener's combine measurements?

5’11.75” for both I think
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« Reply #133 on: June 05, 2024, 08:19:01 AM »
Most recent mock draft by Yahoo Sports has Kolek going #22 to Phoenix and Oso #51 to Washington.

https://sports.yahoo.com/2024-nba-mock-draft-80-zaccharie-risacher-takes-over-no-1-spot-plus-our-latest-intel-and-projections-for-every-pick-141517144.html?.tsrc=1317

On TK: There are rumors of a promise for Kolek in the first round, and the Suns make sense for the established point guard who found ways to score at every level this season. He can come in right away and be the lead guard for the second unit with how well he reads the game and facilitates for others.



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« Reply #134 on: June 06, 2024, 09:41:03 AM »
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« Reply #135 on: June 06, 2024, 10:29:38 PM »
Kolek to the Knicks at #24 and Oso to the Magic at #47 in The Athletic's latest mock.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5528904/2024/06/05/nba-mock-draft-2024-vecenie-alex-sarr/?campaign=5888993&source=dailyemail&userId=3738391

Isn’t it quite interesting that thru 1/2-3/4 of the season it seemed like Oso was the likely 1st rd pick and TyKo the likely 2nd rd pick…. Then, Tyler missed like a month of action and came back to play a few games and played well when he returned, while Oso pretty much played all the way thru but stumbled down the stretch and all the sudden voila, draft fates just switched.

I’m sure some details are off, but that’s the way my mind remembers it at least.

Just interesting given than both guys have enough body of work where “what have you done for me lately” shouldn’t mean a single iota

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« Reply #136 on: June 07, 2024, 09:12:04 AM »
Isn’t it quite interesting that thru 1/2-3/4 of the season it seemed like Oso was the likely 1st rd pick and TyKo the likely 2nd rd pick…. Then, Tyler missed like a month of action and came back to play a few games and played well when he returned, while Oso pretty much played all the way thru but stumbled down the stretch and all the sudden voila, draft fates just switched.

I’m sure some details are off, but that’s the way my mind remembers it at least.

Just interesting given than both guys have enough body of work where “what have you done for me lately” shouldn’t mean a single iota

Oso is one of my all-time favorite Marquette players but we have to be honest - he didn't play very well when the most was on the line at the end of the season. The medical degree I got from a box of Cracker Jacks isn't worth much, but I think he was still hurting from the injury he sustained late in the season. Regardless, NBA scouts have eyes, and they saw that he was less explosive and less able to contribute.

Kolek had a sensational year and, after being hurt, returned from injury to play very well. He also has a skill-set fitting a specific need that many NBA teams have. Reading various mock drafts, the feeling is that he would be a team's backup PG from day 1, able to contribute a solid 10-20 mpg. Oso would need to be in a certain system that could take advantage of his unique talents.

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« Reply #137 on: June 07, 2024, 09:55:26 AM »
Isn’t it quite interesting that thru 1/2-3/4 of the season it seemed like Oso was the likely 1st rd pick and TyKo the likely 2nd rd pick…. Then, Tyler missed like a month of action and came back to play a few games and played well when he returned, while Oso pretty much played all the way thru but stumbled down the stretch and all the sudden voila, draft fates just switched.

I’m sure some details are off, but that’s the way my mind remembers it at least.

Just interesting given than both guys have enough body of work where “what have you done for me lately” shouldn’t mean a single iota

The better the competition, the bigger the stage, the more meaningful the games - NBA scouts pay attention to that stuff. And when the lights were the brightest last year Kolek shined and Oso stumbled.

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« Reply #138 on: June 07, 2024, 10:03:04 AM »
The better the competition, the bigger the stage, the more meaningful the games - NBA scouts pay attention to that stuff. And when the lights were the brightest last year Kolek shined and Oso stumbled.

In the biggest most meaningful game of the year, Reed Sheppard scored 3 points on 1-5 shooting in an upset loss to a 14 seed. He's likely going to be a top 5 pick.

Things the NBA cares about:

1. Who can you guard.
2. Can you shoot.
3. How do you project out 4 years from now (when you'd get your first post rookie contract)
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« Reply #139 on: June 07, 2024, 10:07:03 AM »
Yeah I think NBA scouts care very little about Oso’s late season performance. It’s about if he can guard NBA bigs and develop a broader offensive game.
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« Reply #140 on: June 07, 2024, 10:16:11 AM »
I think they look at everything. Oso's body of work and what it suggests about his future obviously would matter more, but Oso playing relatively poorly down the stretch didn't do him any favors.

And/or maybe the mock drafters were just wrong when Oso was being projected as a first-rounder in January and February. That's possible too.
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« Reply #141 on: June 07, 2024, 10:34:00 AM »
The better the competition, the bigger the stage, the more meaningful the games - NBA scouts pay attention to that stuff. And when the lights were the brightest last year Kolek shined and Oso stumbled.

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« Reply #142 on: June 07, 2024, 10:43:56 AM »
I think Osos measurables hurt him more than anything.  We knew he was small for a non shooting big guy but his meaurables were shockingly bad. I knew he don't have extendo arms but I was surprised when he came in like the 2nd percentile for wingspan of NBA centers.

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« Reply #143 on: June 07, 2024, 11:09:57 AM »
I think they look at everything. Oso's body of work and what it suggests about his future obviously would matter more, but Oso playing relatively poorly down the stretch didn't do him any favors.

And/or maybe the mock drafters were just wrong when Oso was being projected as a first-rounder in January and February. That's possible too.
The great thing about these mock drafts if youone doesn't like where someone is slotted, just do a little search and there will be a mock that agrees with one's opinion.

This one has Oso as a first rounder, so it has to be right
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/draft/mock-draft/

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« Reply #144 on: June 07, 2024, 01:56:13 PM »
The great thing about these mock drafts if youone doesn't like where someone is slotted, just do a little search and there will be a mock that agrees with one's opinion.

This one has Oso as a first rounder, so it has to be right
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/draft/mock-draft/

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I think Osos measurables hurt him more than anything.  We knew he was small for a non shooting big guy but his meaurables were shockingly bad. I knew he don't have extendo arms but I was surprised when he came in like the 2nd percentile for wingspan of NBA centers.

NBA teams are arrogant.  They believe that if a player is lacking a skill, they will be able to develop them to have that skill.  You can't develop length

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Re: 2024 Mock Drafts
« Reply #145 on: June 08, 2024, 10:26:54 AM »
If I were the Bucks I would take Tyko at #23 if he's still on the board. 

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« Reply #146 on: June 08, 2024, 10:27:31 AM »
If I were the Bucks I would take Tyko at #23 if he's still on the board.

I’d take anyone that could defend on the perimeter.
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« Reply #147 on: June 08, 2024, 10:55:20 AM »
If I were the Bucks I would take Tyko at #23 if he's still on the board. 

I would not. As wades says, they more need a perimeter defender than a back up PG.
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« Reply #148 on: June 08, 2024, 10:56:27 AM »
I’d take anyone that could defend on the perimeter.

They have a lot of roster work to do. 

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« Reply #149 on: June 09, 2024, 01:13:35 PM »
Bucks: Carlton Carrrington - if he is still available.

Some interesting things from Jonathan Givony at ESPN. Oso has dropped to #57 prospect. But I don't think that is an issue. Only certain teams will want him anyway. I think a good comparison might be Kyle Anderson who has had a long NBA career so far.

The NBA doesn't look kindly on traditional low post centers. 6 months ago, Clingan and Edey were both seen as mid-2nd rounders. Givony now has Clingan as #3 prospect and Edey at #16.


 

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