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[wadesworld]

Twitter has taken a turn and saying Nate Oates is gonna take the Kentucky job

Kentucky appears to have a real shot.

[Uncle Rico]

Oats info was per Twitter talk

I saw that but it's my belief if a guy is putting out a statement about staying somewhere, it's usually because they weren't getting the gig.

I don't think cash is an issue at Kentucky.  It's possible they're not as organized as Alabama.  That I would believe

[jutaw22mu]

NAIA must be bigots under Sultan's definition

I saw that today.  25-0 vote.  NCAA will hopefully follow suit.

[Uncle Rico]

I saw that today.  25-0 vote.  NCAA will hopefully follow suit.

You guys and gals want to start a thread elsewhere on this matter?

[The Sultan]

NAIA must be bigots under Sultan's definition

Yep.

[jutaw22mu]

You guys and gals want to start a thread elsewhere on this matter?

Sorry, I was done until Sultan decided to revive the whole thing.  And, I'm biologically hard-wired to want the last word.  Or is that bigoted to say?

[Pakuni]

NAIA must be bigots under Sultan's definition

Told myself I wouldn't stumble back into this, but here we are ...

There's plenty of room for a reasonable, nuanced discussion and differing opinions about when, where and under what circumstances transgender athletes should compete.

Referring to transgender women as "men," specious claims about women being deprived of opportunities and couching one's prejudices as a women's rights issue is not part of that discussion.

[cheebs09]

Am I missing the Scott Drew is going to UK piece? I've only seen him as an option.

[The Sultan]

Told myself I wouldn't stumble back into this, but here we are ...

There's plenty of room for a reasonable, nuanced discussion and differing opinions about when, where and under what circumstances transgender athletes should compete.

Referring to transgender women as "men," specious claims about women being deprived of opportunities and couching one's prejudices as a women's rights issue is not part of that discussion.

Yep.

[Viper]

Did he pray before his decision?  Or was it the money?  I'm guessing it was the money

casting a lot of stones, brah.

[Uncle Rico]

casting a lot of stones, brah.

History is a great teacher, brah

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Whatever, bro.  Title XI was established specifically to provide opportunities to women in sports

Actually Title XI had nothing to do with women's sports. It established that local and state anti discrimination laws could not supercede the civil rights act of 1964.

Title IX on the other hand....

[jutaw22mu]

Told myself I wouldn't stumble back into this, but here we are ...

There's plenty of room for a reasonable, nuanced discussion and differing opinions about when, where and under what circumstances transgender athletes should compete.

Referring to transgender women as "men," specious claims about women being deprived of opportunities and couching one's prejudices as a women's rights issue is not part of that discussion.

Oh come on.  Their biology states that transwomen are men.  It's perplexing to me that you don't see those 34 transwomen in NCAA sports that you mentioned earlier as anything other than a Title IX violation where positions that have been set aside specifically for women are being given to non-women.

[jutaw22mu]

Actually Title XI had nothing to do with women's sports. It established that local and state anti discrimination laws could not supercede the civil rights act of 1964.

Title IX on the other hand....

Haha thanks for the correction.  I don't do Roman numerals. 

[Viper]

It's almost like you only know one word and you think that if you say it enough times that it must be true.

Sultan has no argument, hence the race card/bigotry play. I'll gladly take the bigot label, however, in opining that men should not compete with women in sport. What if, for example, Mike Tyson decided to be...Michelle Tyson? Ah, no can do. Bigoted? Nope. Common sense? Yup.

[Pakuni]

Oh come on.  Their biology states that transwomen are men.  It's perplexing to me that you don't see those 34 transwomen in NCAA sports that you mentioned earlier as anything other than a Title IX violation where positions that have been set aside specifically for women are being given to non-women.

Assumes facts not in evidence, counselor.
Show your work.

[The Sultan]

Sultan has no argument, hence the race card/bigotry play. I'll gladly take the bigot label, however, in opining that men should not compete with women in sport. What if, for example, Mike Tyson decided to be...Michelle Tyson? Ah, no can do. Bigoted? Nope. Common sense? Yup.

As Pak said, there are ways to allow trans athletes to participate that allow for fairness. But that requires thoughtful, well researched policy.

But that's not what this is about. This is about piling onto a group that's been repeatedly and disgustingly piled onto.

And simpletons such as yourself fall for it. Bigotry disguised as "fairness."

[jutaw22mu]

Sultan has no argument, hence the race card/bigotry play. I'll gladly take the bigot label, however, in opining that men should not compete with women in sport. What if, for example, Mike Tyson decided to be...Michelle Tyson? Ah, no can do. Bigoted? Nope. Common sense? Yup.

Michelle Tyson at 57 would absolutely obliterate the best female boxer in her prime.  Facts.

[jutaw22mu]

As Pak said, there are ways to allow trans athletes to participate that allow for fairness. But that requires thoughtful, well researched policy.

But that's not what this is about. This is about piling onto a group that's been repeatedly and disgustingly piled onto.

And simpletons such as yourself fall for it. Bigotry disguised as "fairness."

I agree.  Fairness would be for them to compete in their designated biological sex while being recognized as the women that they believe themselves to be.

[Pakuni]

Sultan has no argument, hence the race card/bigotry play. I'll gladly take the bigot label, however, in opining that men should not compete with women in sport. What if, for example, Mike Tyson decided to be...Michelle Tyson? Ah, no can do. Bigoted? Nope. Common sense? Yup.

Ah yes, the ever-present boogeyman  of the male athlete who's going to declare himself a woman and immediately compete in (and dominate) women's spprts.. Which has happened never and could happen never at any level.
And yet dolts keep raising this as if it were a real possibility.

[The Sultan]

I agree.  Fairness would be for them to compete in their designated biological sex while being recognized as the women that they believe themselves to be.

Yeah. You're a pretty despicable person. Not worth the energy I have already spent.

[jutaw22mu]

Yeah. You're a pretty despicable person. Not worth the energy I have already spent.

Cool.  Then I will take the last word and we can stop this dumb argument.  #lastword

[Tyler COLEk]

Oh come on.  Their biology states that transwomen are men.  It's perplexing to me that you don't see those 34 transwomen in NCAA sports that you mentioned earlier as anything other than a Title IX violation where positions that have been set aside specifically for women are being given to non-women.

The athletics issue is generally used as a distraction to avoid deeper moral consideration of trans issues. You and everyone who refuses to accept that fellow human beings may declare their own gender are scum. Please try to become a better person.

[jutaw22mu]

The athletics issue is generally used as a distraction to avoid deeper moral consideration of trans issues. You and everyone who refuses to accept that fellow human beings may declare their own gender are scum. Please try to become a better person.

They can declare their own gender but not sex.  Biology declares sex.

[Tyler COLEk]

They can declare their own gender but not sex.  Biology declares sex.

You have repeatedly referred to trans women as "men" and "non-women" in this thread.