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1SE

Quote from: wadesworld on February 17, 2024, 05:08:19 PM
Yeah...no.

Yeah, thats not right at all. Win 4 of the next 5 and we should pretty much be a lock on the 2 line.

1 is almost certainly off the table. We'd need to Win out, win BET, and have 1 of the top 4 stumble
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wadesworld

Quote from: 1SE on February 17, 2024, 05:17:47 PM
Yeah, thats not right at all. Win 4 of the next 5 and we should pretty much be a lock on the 2 line.

1 is almost certainly off the table. We'd need to Win out, win BET, and have 1 of the top 4 stumble

Win out in the regular season and lose to UCONN in the BET and there's an outside shot of a 1.

Unlikely we do it, but would be fun to see.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Zog from Margo on February 17, 2024, 04:43:01 PM
After today, MU likely needs to win out in the regular season to be on the 2 line heading into the BE tournament. Not that it really matters.

Wrong.

MarquetteMike1977

ESPN Bracketology Updated Friday February 16th  before the UCONN Marquette game by Joe Lunardi. Marquette is listed as a Pod 2 Seed playing 15 Seed Oakland in Indianapolis. With the winner playing the winner of 7 Seed Oklahoma and 10 Seed New Mexico In the South Dallas Region.

GoldenEagles03

I've seen 5 different bracketologists matching us up with Michigan State again in round 2 as of this morning.
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tower912

#380
A fun conversation starter.  MSU is playing marginally better lately.   Still not making threes but pushing the ball and using their size effectively on the boards.  Their schedule down the stretch is manageable. They could win 4 of their last 5 and end their regular season at 21-10.   I can see that landing them on the 6 or 7 line.
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Viper

Quote from: tower912 on February 19, 2024, 09:17:41 AM
A fun conversation starter.  MSU is playing marginally better lately.   Still not making threes but pushing the ball and using their size effectively on the boards.  Their schedule down the stretch is manageable. They could win 4 of their last 5 and end their regular season at 21-10.   I can see that landing them on the 6 or 7 line.
watching the MI-MSU game I was thinking...man, I don't want to play Sparty in rd 2!
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ESPN Bracketology Updated Tuesday February 20th by Joe Lunardi. Marquette is listed as a Pod 2 Seed playing 15 Seed Morehead Stare in Indianapolis. With the winner playing the winner of 7 Seed Michigan State  and 10 Seed Mississippi State In the South Dallas Region.

MUbiz

Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on February 20, 2024, 11:39:53 AM
ESPN Bracketology Updated Tuesday February 20th by Joe Lunardi. Marquette is listed as a Pod 2 Seed playing 15 Seed Morehead Stare in Indianapolis. With the winner playing the winner of 7 Seed Michigan State  and 10 Seed Mississippi State In the South Dallas Region.

Is there a rule about playing the same team in the second round 2 years in a row?  Just curious.

wisblue

Quote from: MUbiz on February 20, 2024, 11:40:38 AM
Is there a rule about playing the same team in the second round 2 years in a row?  Just curious.

There is not.

There is a principle (not a hard and fast rule) to try to avoid rematches from the prior year in the First Four and first round.

brewcity77

Quote from: wisblue on February 20, 2024, 11:54:15 AM
There is not.

There is a principle (not a hard and fast rule) to try to avoid rematches from the prior year in the First Four and first round.

They try to avoid rematches of the previous year and the regular season in the first weekend. But like you said, it's not a hard and fast rule. So they'll try to keep us away from Michigan State, but if that's how the chips fall, they can still line us up again.

MUbiz

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 20, 2024, 12:01:10 PM
They try to avoid rematches of the previous year and the regular season in the first weekend. But like you said, it's not a hard and fast rule. So they'll try to keep us away from Michigan State, but if that's how the chips fall, they can still line us up again.

Thanks!

wisblue

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 20, 2024, 12:01:10 PM
They try to avoid rematches of the previous year and the regular season in the first weekend. But like you said, it's not a hard and fast rule. So they'll try to keep us away from Michigan State, but if that's how the chips fall, they can still line us up again.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2023-03-09/how-field-68-di-mens-teams-picked-march-madness-each-season
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Have they updated the procedures from last year?

Last year's specifically say under item 3 under "Additional Considerations":

"3. If possible, rematches from the previous tournament  should be avoided in the First Four and first round."

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an MSU-MU matchup would potentially occur in the second round, they can give us 7 seed MSU again if they want.
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brewcity77

Quote from: wisblue on February 20, 2024, 01:39:41 PM
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2023-03-09/how-field-68-di-mens-teams-picked-march-madness-each-season
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Have they updated the procedures from last year?

Last year's specifically say under item 3 under "Additional Considerations":

"3. If possible, rematches from the previous tournament  should be avoided in the First Four and first round."

It was in a document passed around in a chat I'm in over this past weekend. They include a point in there that says "the committee will attempt to avoid potential rematches from non-conference regular-season games in the second round." It's possible they changed that from also saying previous tournament meetings (it was definitely in there and a talking point for us this weekend) but I imagine either way it would be a lesser condition used when convenient but not mandatory.

wisblue

Quote from: brewcity77 on February 20, 2024, 04:08:29 PM
It was in a document passed around in a chat I'm in over this past weekend. They include a point in there that says "the committee will attempt to avoid potential rematches from non-conference regular-season games in the second round." It's possible they changed that from also saying previous tournament meetings (it was definitely in there and a talking point for us this weekend) but I imagine either way it would be a lesser condition used when convenient but not mandatory.

The point about nonconference rematches in the second round is in the document I attached as a "secondary consideration".  (See point 1 under "Additional Considerations. " )  But there is nothing similar about rematches from last year's tournament in the second round.

MU82

Three days after the UConn beatdown, only a handful of the 108 bracketologists have MU at a 3; the rest have us at a 2. The composite still has us as the third 2, just a fraction behind UNC and a fraction ahead of Kansas ... but well ahead of the first 3 (Iowa State).
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CountryRoads

Quote from: Pepe Sylvia on February 20, 2024, 02:40:00 PM
an MSU-MU matchup would potentially occur in the second round, they can give us 7 seed MSU again if they want.

That would mean MU would be a 2 seed in Indianapolis. Putting MSU there would be blasphemous but wouldn't put it past the committee.

Norm

Quote from: CountryRoads on February 20, 2024, 11:43:45 PM
That would mean MU would be a 2 seed in Indianapolis. Putting MSU there would be blasphemous but wouldn't put it past the committee.

They put MSU as a 10 seed in Columbus last year - and they had a definite homer crowd for the MU game.

Viper

BIG is weak aside from Purdue and Illinois. Michigan State, Iowa, Northwestern, Indiana, Nebraska and Wisconsin are all very average. BUT, i'll take it to Vegas that we find ourselves with a BIG team in rd 2.
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Do people think the committee has something against Marquette? Cause it feels like we manufacture outrage over the bracket every year.
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tower912

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 21, 2024, 07:53:56 AM
Do people think the committee has something against Marquette? Cause it feels like we manufacture outrage over the bracket every year.
What doesn't scoop manufacture outrage over?
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Viper

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 21, 2024, 07:53:56 AM
Do people think the committee has something against Marquette? Cause it feels like we manufacture outrage over the bracket every year.
yes. It's a YOY understanding within the committee to screw Marquette ever since AL said no to the ncaa, then won the NIT. Old grudges never die.
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The Sultan

Quote from: Viper on February 21, 2024, 07:57:31 AM
yes. It's a YOY understanding within the committee to screw Marquette ever since AL said no to the ncaa, then won the NIT. Old grudges never die.

I hope you're kidding.
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tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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