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2024-25 NFL Thread

Started by Herman Cain, July 08, 2023, 07:41:44 AM

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Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on January 30, 2024, 05:25:56 PM
Just another Campbell enabler.

I hope Campbell has learned his lesson and will change how he does things to try and emulate the Lions coaches that came before him
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

tower912

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 30, 2024, 05:33:02 PM
I hope Campbell has learned his lesson and will change how he does things to try and emulate the Lions coaches that came before him
I expect it will be the Rockette routine.   1-2-3 kick.    Like the good old days.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

cheebs09


Uncle Rico

Mike Macdonald gets the Seabags job.  Imagine that will impact teams DC hires as someone may get promoted in Baltimore and Macdonald will probably bring some guys along
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

Jockey

Quote from: cheebs09 on January 30, 2024, 05:46:30 PM
No one paying $15 mill?

No reason to think that the report is true. Simply Schefter putting it out there because 1 team (Commanders) told him that so they didn't look bad when he didn't want their job. If he was a real reporter, he would have gone to Johnson's camp and gotten their side.

But then, this is the reason teams leak info to Schefter 5 minutes before they were gonna announce it anyway.

Pakuni

Quote from: Jockey on January 31, 2024, 01:01:15 PM
No reason to think that the report is true. Simply Schefter putting it out there because 1 team (Commanders) told him that so they didn't look bad when he didn't want their job. If he was a real reporter, he would have gone to Johnson's camp and gotten their side.


It wasn't Schefter who put it out there.
But why would teams leak a false salary demand from Johnson? What's the benefit?

Jockey

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Quote from: Pakuni on January 31, 2024, 01:11:33 PM
It wasn't Schefter who put it out there.
But why would teams leak a false salary demand from Johnson? What's the benefit?



My answer was referring to the post that Johnson was asking for $15M. I believe that was put out there by Schefter.

Maybe Johnson didn't want to go to on of the most dysfunctional teams in the NFL over the last couple decades.

Most head coaches only get one chance. If you are 37 years old, you don't have to jump at the 1st team that comes along.

tower912

Or you could believe what Johnson said.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

JWags85

Not related to his alleged salary requirements, but Ben Johnson was part of a HEATER stretch from his HS in Asheville.  In the span of 5-6 years, it produced former UNC QB/Survivor alum/successful country artist Chase Rice, then UNC QB and now hot shot OC Ben Johnson, then country megastar Luke Combs, and then another UNC QB and social media phenom Caleb Pressley.  It would be impressive to have that all come from a city as small as Asheville, but all from a single HS in that city is wild.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Uncle Rico on January 31, 2024, 12:20:23 PM
Mike Macdonald gets the Seabags job.  Imagine that will impact teams DC hires as someone may get promoted in Baltimore and Macdonald will probably bring some guys along

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjqcf5F0YRg

Pakuni

Dan Quinn to the Washington Football Team

JWags85

Quote from: Pakuni on February 01, 2024, 10:17:47 AM
Dan Quinn to the Washington Football Team

From my DC native BIL..."Snyder selling the team was the most excited Ive been about the NFL since RG3 had 2 functioning knees...and new ownership didn't even get to a new season before smashing my hopes and dreams."

Pakuni

Anomaly or trend?
For the first time since 2015, more defensive guys were hired as head coaches than offensive-minded guys (5 to 3).
In the previous eight cycles, 39 offensive-minded coaches were hired compared to 16 from the defensive side.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Pakuni on February 01, 2024, 11:27:00 AM
Anomaly or trend?
For the first time since 2015, more defensive guys were hired as head coaches than offensive-minded guys (5 to 3).
In the previous eight cycles, 39 offensive-minded coaches were hired compared to 16 from the defensive side.

By my quick count, 10 out of 12 playoff head coaches were offensive minded.

MUBurrow

Quote from: JWags85 on February 01, 2024, 11:06:56 AM
From my DC native BIL..."Snyder selling the team was the most excited Ive been about the NFL since RG3 had 2 functioning knees...and new ownership didn't even get to a new season before smashing my hopes and dreams."

I get being a bit disappointed - Quinn isn't splashy and his resume is a lot like Rivera's.  But that seems a bit dramatic, too. Its not like they hired Josh McDaniels.  I don't really understand hiring Dan Quinn when Mike Vrabel is right there, but he's not going to burn the place down.

MU82

Quote from: JWags85 on February 01, 2024, 11:06:56 AM
From my DC native BIL..."Snyder selling the team was the most excited Ive been about the NFL since RG3 had 2 functioning knees...and new ownership didn't even get to a new season before smashing my hopes and dreams."

Atlanta was 10-22 the two seasons before Quinn got there. Two years later, they were in the Super Bowl.

I guess I could understand your BIL not being excited, but there could have been WAAAAAAAY worse hires.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

Pakuni

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on February 01, 2024, 12:11:47 PM
By my quick count, 10 out of 12 playoff head coaches were offensive minded.

Well, 14 teams make the playoffs.
Offensive (9): Stefanski, McDaniel, Reid, Lafleur, McCarthy, McVay, Campbell, Sirianni, Shanahan
Defensive (4): Bowles, McDermott, Tomlin, Ryans
Special teams/Defense (1): Harbaugh

MU82

Fun fact from The Athletic:

Carroll and Belichick are 72 and 71 years old, respectively. Their replacements, Macdonald and Mayo, are a combined 73.

"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Pakuni on February 01, 2024, 12:44:35 PM
Well, 14 teams make the playoffs.
Offensive (9): Stefanski, McDaniel, Reid, Lafleur, McCarthy, McVay, Campbell, Sirianni, Shanahan
Defensive (4): Bowles, McDermott, Tomlin, Ryans
Special teams/Defense (1): Harbaugh

Thanks. One could argue if that means anything compared to this hiring class, but that is the way of the NFL success it would seem, especially with offensive friendly rules changes.

JWags85

Quote from: MU82 on February 01, 2024, 12:54:51 PM
Fun fact from The Athletic:

Carroll and Belichick are 72 and 71 years old, respectively. Their replacements, Macdonald and Mayo, are a combined 73.

Also, MacDonald is the youngest HC in the league...and Carroll was the oldest

tower912

Lions keep Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn.  They snag a new defensive line coach from Tennessee, Terrell Williams.

An experienced, dynamic D-line could certainly help one of the weaknesses from last season.  Detroit was stout against the run but had an erratic pass rush.  This highlighted the weak secondary.

If he is still available, I predict the Lions take T'Vondre Sweat to bolster the D-line.
Then look to free agency for new corners.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Raiders hire Luke Getsey as their offensive coordinator. That team has the potential of being an absolute disaster next year.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on February 04, 2024, 07:05:57 AM
Raiders hire Luke Getsey as their offensive coordinator. That team has the potential of being an absolute disaster next year.

Aaron Rodgers vouches for Getsy.  And he knows good coaches
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

Pakuni

The fact Getsy got OC interviews with at least three teams and landed a job may indicate that the NFL  views the Bears' crappy passing game as more of a quarterback problem than a coaching problem.
Maybe Getsy is indeed terrible, but it's hard to implement an NFL-level passing scheme with a QB who can't read half the field or throw an intermediate route.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Pakuni on February 04, 2024, 08:16:05 AM
The fact Getsy got OC interviews with at least three teams and landed a job may indicate that the NFL  views the Bears' crappy passing game as more of a quarterback problem than a coaching problem.
Maybe Getsy is indeed terrible, but it's hard to implement an NFL-level passing scheme with a QB who can't read half the field or throw an intermediate route.
I'm not a fan of Getsy, but you're take is logical and difficult to argue.