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2024-25 NFL Thread

Started by Herman Cain, July 08, 2023, 07:41:44 AM

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WhiteTrash

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 10, 2024, 03:04:15 PM
Oh of course it is. To me, they want to emulate the Steelers who have had three coaches in the last 50+ years.  That's what proper organizations do.

The problem is that they can't hire a good enough coach to keep him around, and they keep deluding themselves into thinking the current guy is it.
Change of ownership would be a dream come true. I honestly think that will happen after Virginia passes. The Halas/McCaskey wealth is virtually all tied up in the Bears and I'd guess they want to cash in.

Funny story from the '90s from a friend who was doing audit work for the Bears was he was at Halas Hall during a board meeting and many of the Bears owners/Halas/McCaskey drove Hondas and Toyotas. Not your typical NFL owner meeting transportation.

I'm okay with Eberflus coming back (not my preference) but I'll be very upset if Poles had to force him to fire Getsy and the lot. That would tell be Eberflus has zero business as a HC and the Bears are screwed next year.

Pakuni

Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 10, 2024, 03:30:26 PM
Change of ownership would be a dream come true. I honestly think that will happen after Virginia passes. The Halas/McCaskey wealth is virtually all tied up in the Bears and I'd guess they want to cash in.

There's something coming on the horizon that will significantly enhance the franchise's value. A sale isn't likely until that's done.



WhiteTrash

Quote from: Pakuni on January 10, 2024, 03:34:39 PM
There's something coming on the horizon that will significantly enhance the franchise's value. A sale isn't likely until that's done.
According to Kevin Warren they are "on track" to have it finalized by summer.

Also, according to Poles and Eberflus they are in Chicago to win Super Bowls. :o

jesmu84

Per Poles, the organization did not speak to anyone about a potential head coach hire. He made the decision to keep Eberflus himself. He did not consider other candidates.

Wow.

GB Warrior

Quote from: jesmu84 on January 10, 2024, 04:13:47 PM
Per Poles, the organization did not speak to anyone about a potential head coach hire. He made the decision to keep Eberflus himself. He did not consider other candidates.

Wow.

I mean, power to him for putting all his chips to the center

Jockey

"I'm wide open to anything," Poles said. "So if someone wants to call me with an idea, I'm open to it."


Sounds like a real leader. Gen. Patton would be proud.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Jockey on January 10, 2024, 05:20:21 PM
"I'm wide open to anything," Poles said. "So if someone wants to call me with an idea, I'm open to it."


Sounds like a real leader. Gen. Patton would be proud.
Does anyone have his number? I have some ideas.

CreightonWarrior

Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 10, 2024, 03:42:20 PM
According to Kevin Warren they are "on track" to have it finalized by summer.

Also, according to Poles and Eberflus they are in Chicago to win Super Bowls. :o
What is IT?

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Pakuni


tower912

Exit gracefully, Bill.   Play more golf.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: tower912 on January 11, 2024, 07:09:00 AM
Exit gracefully, Bill.   Play more golf.
You would hope but it sounds like he's off to ATL or SD. I guess he really covets the all time wins record and needs 15 more.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

As great as he has been, I would be extremely wary. With him getting more and more in charge of personnel, the drafting drop off became very apparent. Also his staff has been getting more and more inbred as time goes on. Is he going to bring in his kid as defensive coordinator?

But these owners being who they are really love the quick fix embodied in the super coach even though that rarely works.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

tower912

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 11, 2024, 07:56:10 AM
Is he going to bring in his kid as defensive coordinator?



Better than bringing back Patricia.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

Coach Belichick was royally screwed by GM Belichick.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

WhiteTrash

Quote from: MU82 on January 11, 2024, 08:56:00 AM
Coach Belichick was royally screwed by GM Belichick.
Mostly, but having a DC and Special Teams coach(?) as co-OCs was a curious decision by a HC.

MU82

Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 11, 2024, 09:01:38 AM
Mostly, but having a DC and Special Teams coach(?) as co-OCs was a curious decision by a HC.

GM Belichick signed off on those curious decisions by Coach Belichick.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

JWags85

Quote from: MU82 on January 11, 2024, 08:56:00 AM
Coach Belichick was royally screwed by GM Belichick.

I agree with this fully.  If he goes somewhere else that has a GM in place and he doesn't just bring his merry band of children and yes men from NE, he could still be a good HC for another 5 years or so, IMO.

Jockey

Tom Brady.

Otherwise just another above average coach.

Check the stats.

Jockey

Quote from: MU82 on January 11, 2024, 08:56:00 AM
Coach Belichick was royally screwed by GM Belichick.

GM Belichick was great when he had Tom Brady.

Pakuni

Quote from: Jockey on January 11, 2024, 10:57:20 AM
Tom Brady.

Otherwise just another above average coach.

Check the stats.

That's nuts.
Stats say he made the playoffs with Matt Cassel and Mac Jones.
Stats also say his defenses were usually among the league's best.


WhiteTrash

Quote from: Jockey on January 11, 2024, 10:57:20 AM
Tom Brady.

Otherwise just another above average coach.

Check the stats.
Tom Brady has won as many SBs without Belichick as Trent Dilfer. 

Silkk the Shaka

All the people that said trading a 2nd rounder for Sweat and paying him was dumb (and were immediately proven wrong) are the same ones convinced Poles doesn't know what he's doing with the HC here.

The man traded out of #1 last year to get OLine (Wright) & WR (DJ Moore) infrastructure for a new QB so he doesn't start off in a disaster position while keeping the Fields option open this year. Let it play out. Poles knows what's up.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Pakuni on January 11, 2024, 11:14:31 AM
That's nuts.
Stats say he made the playoffs with Matt Cassel and Mac Jones.
Stats also say his defenses were usually among the league's best.

He actually did not make the playoffs the year Cassel was the primary starter.  They did go 11-5 however.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.