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2024-25 NFL Thread

Started by Herman Cain, July 08, 2023, 07:41:44 AM

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WhiteTrash

Quote from: MuggsyB on January 07, 2024, 06:40:06 PM
I'm not sold on Eberfluss at all.
I'd take him as a DC.

Losing his DC and RB coach in season is poor HC skills. Add to that, selecting Getsy is not quality staff building.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU82 on January 07, 2024, 06:42:32 PM
That's the big question. If the Bears brass believes that Williams, Daniels or Maye is a face-of-franchise-for-decade QB, they should absolutely keep the pick and draft him.

If they're wishy-washy on all of 'em, they should do what you suggest.

Right now, the 2025 QB draft class doesn't look very strong. So that has to play into it, too.

I don't think Fields is the guy, and who knows what the Bears will do with the coaching staff.

Da Bears shud hire Ditka
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

MuggsyB

Quote from: WhiteTrash on January 07, 2024, 06:43:48 PM
I'd take him as a DC.

Losing his DC and RB coach in season is poor HC skills. Add to that, selecting Getsy is not quality staff building.

Does Harbaugh have interest?

MU82

Quote from: DegenerateDish on January 07, 2024, 02:49:22 PM
Panthers points scored each game last 5 weeks.

6
9
30
0
0

And yet Justin Fields could only put up 9 points against the same team that gave Bryce Young two months' worth of points.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

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WhiteTrash

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Quote from: MuggsyB on January 07, 2024, 06:46:29 PM
Does Harbaugh have interest?
No idea. I think it will be Chicago, LV or Chargers. I think he will leave Michigan. I'd like it, but I would not be disappointed if it is not him.

While the coach is a huge part of success, we all know the Bears are still rebuilding and need much more talent.

DegenerateDish

Quote from: MU82 on January 07, 2024, 06:47:13 PM
And yet Justin Fields could only put up 9 points against the same team that gave Bryce Young two months' worth of points.

Completely mutually exclusive from one another.

lostpassword

Quote from: DegenerateDish on January 07, 2024, 05:14:59 PM
This is on pace to be an incredibly fast played game.

A quick search shows that the fastest ever was something like 2:29... and top 5 is about 2:35.  I think this might have cracked the top 10 if not the top 5.

cheebs09

Quote from: lostpassword on January 07, 2024, 07:15:05 PM
A quick search shows that the fastest ever was something like 2:29... and top 5 is about 2:35.  I think this might have cracked the top 10 if not the top 5.

The Bucs-Panthers game seemed crazy fast.

WhiteTrash

Bears' post game: Justin said goodbye to Chicago and DJ Moore torched Getsy.

Getsy gone - 110%
Justin gone - 100%
Flus gone - 50%
Poles gone - 10%

GB Warrior

Josh Allen is truly the rightful successor to Brett Favre

Lennys Tap

Suppose the Bears decide Fields isn't the guy but think Williams, Maye, Daniels and Penix are basically equal. Why not trade with the Giants (#6?), trade Fields and take whatever QB falls to them. They'd have their QB, the #9 pick, whatever Fields brings and whatever the Giants pay to move up. A possibility?

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 07, 2024, 08:30:31 PM
Suppose the Bears decide Fields isn't the guy but think Williams, Maye, Daniels and Penix are basically equal. Why not trade with the Giants (#6?), trade Fields and take whatever QB falls to them. They'd have their QB, the #9 pick, whatever Fields brings and whatever the Giants pay to move up. A possibility?

I think that works for most positions , but usually teams zero in on a specific quarterback and don't want to play around.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

GB Warrior

Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 07, 2024, 08:30:31 PM
Suppose the Bears decide Fields isn't the guy but think Williams, Maye, Daniels and Penix are basically equal. Why not trade with the Giants (#6?), trade Fields and take whatever QB falls to them. They'd have their QB, the #9 pick, whatever Fields brings and whatever the Giants pay to move up. A possibility?

If the medicals check out on Penix, I'm all in on this if I'm Poles. See if you can get the Pat's to come up to one, get MHJ, then work to come up/come away with your guy.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quay Walker on Justin Fields: "We know anytime we can take away his first read, whether we're in man or zone, he's pretty much going to take off. Whenever we can keep him in the pocket and allow him just to play QB, and not allow him to run, we have a real, real good chance."
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 07, 2024, 08:34:44 PM
I think that works for most positions , but usually teams zero in on a specific quarterback and don't want to play around.

True. Like when the Bears zeroed in on Trubisky, traded a boatload to move up so they wouldn't get stuck with DeShaun Watson or (perish the thought) Patrick Mahomes.

But while I agree that you're probably right, and also conceding that I'm no scout, the little I've seen of the 4 would make me at least as comfortable with 3 or 4 as I'd be with 1 or 2.

JWags85

Josh Allen just completed one of the lowest IQ halves of football from an established "star" QB that I've seen in a LONNNG time

Lennys Tap

Quote from: JWags85 on January 07, 2024, 08:53:52 PM
Josh Allen just completed one of the lowest IQ halves of football from an established "star" QB that I've seen in a LONNNG time

Enormous physical gifts but he's never been known as the most cerebral to play the position.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: JWags85 on January 07, 2024, 08:53:52 PM
Josh Allen just completed one of the lowest IQ halves of football from an established "star" QB that I've seen in a LONNNG time
And yet, still much better than Fields  >:(

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Lennys Tap on January 07, 2024, 09:00:16 PM
Enormous physical gifts but he's never been known as the most cerebral to play the position.

And those enormous physical gifts carried the Bill in the 2nd half.

DegenerateDish

Black Monday started at 12:01 am EST as the Falcons fire Arthur Smith.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: jesmu84 on January 07, 2024, 06:19:19 PM
I don't think he's it either.

But I, personally, don't think either of those 2 are worth #1 overall.

Take a later round pick or 2 at QB. Keep fields for his 4th year, but don't sign his 5th yr option.

If Fields doesn't do anything better next year, and you don't like any other QB on your roster, go nuts in 2025 draft.

This is exactly what I would do.  He isn't the one costing the Bears wins.  Surround him with good players and if he's losing them games next year then you move on.

They need to field a team before they just trot the next guy out there to get trashed.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 07, 2024, 08:43:48 PM
Quay Walker on Justin Fields: "We know anytime we can take away his first read, whether we're in man or zone, he's pretty much going to take off. Whenever we can keep him in the pocket and allow him just to play QB, and not allow him to run, we have a real, real good chance."

Funny take from a guy who couldn't cover a dog bed with a king sized sheet.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 08, 2024, 07:30:25 AM
Funny take from a guy who couldn't cover a dog bed with a king sized sheet.

He's right.  Fields is a 1-read QB who doesn't see the field at all
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Walker got caught up in the wash the play where he got stuck on Moore, otherwise he had a fine game.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Hards Alumni on January 08, 2024, 07:26:14 AM
This is exactly what I would do.  He isn't the one costing the Bears wins.  Surround him with good players and if he's losing them games next year then you move on.

They need to field a team before they just trot the next guy out there to get trashed.


Fields isn't costing them wins, but he sure isn't earning them wins either.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.