2024-25 NFL Thread

[JWags85]

Second, there was the presence of Warren, the team president, which turned some candidates off. Johnson went in with an open mind on Warren, and spent a good portion of the interview with Warren and owner George McCaskey (two-on-one, so to speak). He saw Warren as having a global perspective on what's happening in the league and being able to apply that to being a resource for his football people. In McCaskey, he found a good listener who was, yes, willing to do what it takes to fix his prior mistakes.

Its a bit overly optimistic and wishful thinking, but if Johnson fully understands the shortcomings of the Bears ownership and thinks he can work with/manage George the Doofus instead of letting himself be hamstrung by incompetency, then maybe the overall vision can work...or maybe its just gonna be a disaster of best laid plans.

For all the Bears handwringing, Jacksonville is showing that an ownership situation that is 180 degrees different on paper can cock things up just as badly. Khan seems like a good owner in the "provide resources, be hands off, don't embarrass the franchise" kind of ways that are most important, but his personnel judgment is really starting to leave something to be desired.

It really is kind of strange.  He's not problematic and by all accounts is a super nice and kind man.  I know a couple people who've dealt with/crossed paths with him in his capacity as the Fulham owner and they say the same thing.  Two different people, in true British fashion, called him a "total sweetheart" which is not something often said about NFL owners.

But I remember reading from a few places that he just doesn't have any real passion or interest in the Jags (which is sort of the opposite side of the crappy coin from the owners who are too obsessed and meddlesome).  But that leads to him using the poor personnel judgement to throw everything off to people he thinks are good, like Baalke, and letting things go sideways.

Meanwhile it seems like Tony Khan is the exact opposite and probably part of the reason why AEW has been very successful early on.

[WhiteTrash]

Its a bit overly optimistic and wishful thinking, but if Johnson fully understands the shortcomings of the Bears ownership and thinks he can work with/manage George the Doofus instead of letting himself be hamstrung by incompetency, then maybe the overall vision can work...or maybe its just gonna be a disaster of best laid plans.

I think the McCaskeys are 180 degrees from Jerry Reindorf, in that they want the Bears to win, I just don't think they are good at running a franchise or a business. They may have degrees from good colleges but they have never had to run or build a business.

[Uncle Rico]

Its a bit overly optimistic and wishful thinking, but if Johnson fully understands the shortcomings of the Bears ownership and thinks he can work with/manage George the Doofus instead of letting himself be hamstrung by incompetency, then maybe the overall vision can work...or maybe its just gonna be a disaster of best laid plans.

It really is kind of strange.  He's not problematic and by all accounts is a super nice and kind man.  I know a couple people who've dealt with/crossed paths with him in his capacity as the Fulham owner and they say the same thing.  Two different people, in true British fashion, called him a "total sweetheart" which is not something often said about NFL owners.

But I remember reading from a few places that he just doesn't have any real passion or interest in the Jags (which is sort of the opposite side of the crappy coin from the owners who are too obsessed and meddlesome).  But that leads to him using the poor personnel judgement to throw everything off to people he thinks are good, like Baalke, and letting things go sideways.

Meanwhile it seems like Tony Khan is the exact opposite and probably part of the reason why AEW has been very successful early on.

AEW is a trainwreck

[Pakuni]

Pete Carroll is your new Raiders head coach.

[Hards Alumni]

Pete Carroll is your new Raiders head coach.

73 is the new 30

[Shaka Shart]

I guess I buy it as a culture change, foundational move. Feels a bit uninspired though

[GB Warrior]

Pete Carroll is your new Raiders head coach.

I will never not enjoy Carroll-Harbaugh matchups

[Pakuni]

I guess I buy it as a culture change, foundational move. Feels a bit uninspired though

They clearly wanted Johnson as their first choice, but Carroll seems a pretty solid fallback. Instant credibility in the lockerroom, won't have a problem building a staff and won't be in over his head in a division with Reid, Payton and Harbaugh. Guy went his last 12 years in Seattle with just one losing season, and did it without a ton of early draft picks (between 2011 and 2021, they had only one pick within the top 25).
Probably a ceiling on his upside, and definitely his longevity - even if it goes well, he's there for three years, four at best - but also a high floor guy.

Still, probably a safer bet than reaching too much for a shiny new thing and ending up with Joe Judge, Brandon Staley or Matt Rhule.

[JWags85]

They clearly wanted Johnson as their first choice, but Carroll seems a pretty solid fallback. Instant credibility in the lockerroom, won't have a problem building a staff and won't be in over his head in a division with Reid, Payton and Harbaugh. Guy went his last 12 years in Seattle with just one losing season, and did it without a ton of early draft picks (between 2011 and 2021, they had only one pick within the top 25).
Probably a ceiling on his upside, and definitely his longevity - even if it goes well, he's there for three years, four at best - but also a high floor guy.

Still, probably a safer bet than reaching too much for a shiny new thing and ending up with Joe Judge, Brandon Staley or Matt Rhule.

Thats where I am.  I think an organization that is a dysfunctional mess in need of a culture change could do way worse than someone like Carroll.

And jokes aside, Carroll has a much more younger and energetic cultural vibe at 73 for turning a moribund franchise around than Belichick, for example, who is actually younger than him.

[Dish]

Announcing your head coaching hire at 8:45 on a Friday night doesn't seem to inspire a ton of enthusiasm for a franchise that loves being in the spotlight.

[tower912]

Good for Dallas.

[Uncle Rico]

Man, I'd feel sorry for them but you know, being a Cowboys fan has to suck

[The Sultan]

Also leads me to believe that McCarthy could have been the one to walk away and they got BS cause he's cheap.

[tower912]

Also leads me to believe that McCarthy could have been the one to walk away and they got BS cause he's cheap.

Oh, they got BS...

[Jockey]

Good for Dallas.

An inspiring hire.

Jerrah is all about winning.

[GB Warrior]

Jerry would have hired Marty to blow the big game if he could

[MUBurrow]

Also leads me to believe that McCarthy could have been the one to walk away and they got BS cause he's cheap.

And is a sure thing to just accept the "unique football decision making hierarchy" in Dal.

[JWags85]

Probably reached out to Pete, Pete said nah I'm good, but that guy Brian you got is a real good choice.  And scene

[MU82]

Joe Brady says he'll return to the Bills next season.

Takes a page out of Ben Johnson's book. Smart decision IMHO.

[Pakuni]

Joe Brady says he'll return to the Bills next season.

Takes a page out of Ben Johnson's book. Smart decision IMHO.

That's what Bobby Slowik thought.
I completely understand why Brady would want to steer clear of the New Orleans job, but NFL coordinators can go from the next big thing to out of work pretty quickly. Just ask Byron Leftwich or Eric Bieniemy or, now, Slowik.

[Uncle Rico]

That's what Bobby Slowik thought.
I completely understand why Brady would want to steer clear of the New Orleans job, but NFL coordinators can go from the next big thing to out of work pretty quickly. Just ask Byron Leftwich or Eric Bieniemy or, now, Slowik.

He does have Josh Allen insurance.  It's also a safe bet NO made it clear to him he wasn't getting the job

[Uncle Rico]

Picks sure to be wrong:

Bills 26 Chiefs 23

Eagles 30 Commanders 17

[MU82]

Picks sure to be wrong:

Bills 26 Chiefs 23

Eagles 30 Commanders 17

I can't go against Daniels, but I'm on board with your first pick.

[Uncle Rico]

I can't go against Daniels, but I'm on board with your first pick.

I'm definitely pulling for them.  But he'll have a lot of opportunities.  He was so lucky the Bears made the wrong first overall pick.

[jesmu84]

I'm definitely pulling for them.  But he'll have a lot of opportunities.  He was so lucky the Bears made the wrong first overall pick.

Daniels, like Mahomes, would not have succeeded had they started in Chicago