2024-25 NFL Thread

[MU82]

Frank Reich supposedly was a QB whisperer, too.

On another note ... Saquon Barkley for MVP.

[GB Warrior]

Daboll is super far down on the list of problems in NY. Athletic had a great piece that I thought nailed it on the distinction (without a difference) between NYG and NYJ.

[WhiteTrash]

Frank Reich supposedly was a QB whisperer, too.

On another note ... Saquon Barkley for MVP.

I can support that.

Still some football left to be played.

[tower912]

When will the Vikings and Darnold get the respect they have earned?  By several metrics Darnold is having at least as good a season as Goff.

[Uncle Rico]

When will the Vikings and Darnold get the respect they have earned?  By several metrics Darnold is having at least as good a season as Goff.

When will you respect Goff?

[GB Warrior]

When will you respect Goff?

Only completes the easy passes (note: I actually believe this)

[tower912]

Goff is good.  He and his OC are completely in sync.  He is getting the ball out to his playmakers on time.  Darnold's numbers are comparable.

[JWags85]

Just half to laugh at this point...

"Matt Eberflus says he threw the challenge flag on the Jordan Addison 69-yard play because it was "explosive."

"It always warrants a challenge when you have that big of a gain....even if we don't have the best look that we would have."

https://x.com/brendansugrue/status/1861104967068565880?s=46

[PGsHeroes32]

They conferred and changed the call

But that original ref saying Andrews was out of bounds on that TD was hilarious. Andrews entire body fell down in bounds, right in front of refs face

[MU82]

Goff is good.  He and his OC are completely in sync.  He is getting the ball out to his playmakers on time.  Darnold's numbers are comparable.

You crack me up with the Lions, tower. The way you downplay them reminds me of the way some Scoopers downplay Marquette hoops - an act you like to make fun of.

[tower912]

The Lions are rolling.  For the first time ever, betting favorites to win the Super Bowl. Goff is having a good year.  Darnold's numbers are very similar.  I am enjoying the season.
  But I am not ready to start gloating.  The injuries are piling up at an alarming rate.  I can easily envision losses to Green Bay, Minnesota, and Buffalo and the Lions ending up a wild card.  Having to go on the road to Philadelphia in January.
   So, yeah, it has been a lot of fun.  Minnesota, Philly, and Green Bay are having good seasons, too.

[WhiteTrash]

Just half to laugh at this point...

"Matt Eberflus says he threw the challenge flag on the Jordan Addison 69-yard play because it was "explosive."

"It always warrants a challenge when you have that big of a gain....even if we don't have the best look that we would have."

https://x.com/brendansugrue/status/1861104967068565880?s=46

Flus looks and sounds like a coach who knows it is over.

[Lennys Tap]

You crack me up with the Lions, tower. The way you downplay them reminds me of the way some Scoopers downplay Marquette hoops - an act you like to make fun of.

Yep. According to Tower the Lions entire defense has been wiped out. And while he's been clutching his pearls that wiped out defense hasn't allowed a touchdown in 2 games.

[tower912]

Making Anthony Richardson and Mac Jones look ordinary is quite the accomplishment. I will keep clutching these doom pearls until the curse is gone forever.  Like a Cubs fan prior to a decade ago.   Like Packer and Viking fans currently.

[Lennys Tap]

I will keep clutching until the curse is gone forever.

60+ years of futility/bad football isn't a curse. It's just 60+ years of futility/bad football. That's over and has been for a couple of years.

[MU82]

The Lions are rolling.  For the first time ever, betting favorites to win the Super Bowl. Goff is having a good year.  Darnold's numbers are very similar.  I am enjoying the season.
  But I am not ready to start gloating.  The injuries are piling up at an alarming rate.  I can easily envision losses to Green Bay, Minnesota, and Buffalo and the Lions ending up a wild card.  Having to go on the road to Philadelphia in January.
   So, yeah, it has been a lot of fun.  Minnesota, Philly, and Green Bay are having good seasons, too.

There's a difference between "not gloating" and constantly downplaying team and individual accomplishments. But I do get it - 1,000 times burned and all that.

For the second straight year, I'm rooting for a Lions-Bills Super Bowl so that at least one team's long-tortured fanbase gets to exorcise their demons.

[tower912]

What has the team accomplished?  Fell short in the NFC championship, good start this season?   Are Goff's numbers markedly better than Darnold's?  No coincidence the records are so close.   Aaron Glenn is coaching himself to a HC gig next year.   I am not convinced Ben Johnson wants to go.

Now, again, it has been a lot of fun. I am enjoying it.  But it don't mean a thing if it don't get that ring.   

[MU82]

What has the team accomplished?  Fell short in the NFC championship, good start this season?   Are Goff's numbers markedly better than Darnold's?  No coincidence the records are so close.   Aaron Glenn is coaching himself to a HC gig next year.   I am not convinced Ben Johnson wants to go.

Now, again, it has been a lot of fun. I am enjoying it.  But it don't mean a thing if it don't get that ring.   

They're your team, my friend, so you get the last word. Have a good one!

[tower912]

Did Cubs fans trust and believe after 2015, after Bartman in 2003?  The best comparison I can think of.   Yes, the Cubs finally got it done in 2016.  Did they assume and take it for granted after 2015 that 2016 was the year?
 I will be thrilled if the Lions win it.  I do not assume it is a done deal.

[JWags85]

What has the team accomplished?  Fell short in the NFC championship, good start this season?   Are Goff's numbers markedly better than Darnold's?  No coincidence the records are so close.   Aaron Glenn is coaching himself to a HC gig next year.   I am not convinced Ben Johnson wants to go.

Now, again, it has been a lot of fun. I am enjoying it.  But it don't mean a thing if it don't get that ring.   

Seriously?  They won their first division title in 20+ years.  First playoff win and first NFC championship appearance in almost 25 years.  They can lose 2 of the last 6 (of which they will be favored in 5, if not all) and still have the best record in modern franchise history. All with a coach that has a culture and style that he is 1000% confident in and a team that buys into it.  Thats all something to be celebrated and stoked about.  Yet you downplay LITERALLY every achievement.

You may be the only person who is thinking there isn't much between Goff and Darnold, including everyone who is paid to watch football for a living.

I get being cautious or tempered in your excitement as it pertains to the Lions being the odds on favorite.  But if you truly think nothing matters until they win a title and you're suffocating cynicism is justified until that point...then I don't know why you watch You say you're enjoying it, but 95% of your Lions posts in here are under a rain cloud.  There are Bears and Packer fans enjoying and praising the Lions more.

Did Cubs fans trust and believe after 2015, after Bartman in 2003?  The best comparison I can think of.   Yes, the Cubs finally got it done in 2016.  Did they assume and take it for granted after 2015 that 2016 was the year?
 I will be thrilled if the Lions win it.  I do not assume it is a done deal.

Trust and believe?  Maybe not.  But as a big Cubs fan who lived in Chicago from the disaster which was the NLDS in 2008 through the lean years and through the joy of 2016, the vast majority of Cubs fans I knew were nothing like that.  White knuckles and looking over their shoulder in tense moments, of course.  But the excitement and positivity around Wrigley and Chicago was euphoric even with the hearbreak of 2015.  The only time I can remember truly feeling like "welp, here they go again" was mid way through the WS.  If my fellow Cub fan friends were reacting like you have been to Lions success, I would respond in the same way.  Unless you're the Chiefs or the 2000s Patriots or Yankees, I don't know who you downplay anything thats not a title.

But hey, YMMV.

[BM1090]

I think Eberflus is bad and I'm certainly not defending him, but I don't have a problem with his logic here. It was a big play. They couldn't get a clear look on replay in time. He decided to challenge because he thought it was worth the risk to negate a huge play. Seems reasonable to me. What am I missing?

[JWags85]

I think Eberflus is bad and I'm certainly not defending him, but I don't have a problem with his logic here. It was a big play. They couldn't get a clear look on replay in time. He decided to challenge because he thought it was worth the risk to negate a huge play. Seems reasonable to me. What am I missing?

Use of challenges and timeouts strategically is a huge point of game management for a HC.  A guy basically saying "We challenge any big play, cause why not?" is just dopey and more than just an explanation for that particular play.  At best, he was describing only that play and he sounded dumb and clueless.  At worst, he's describing an overall strategy which is beyond eyebrow raising.

[tower912]

Wags, if, at the end of the season, the Lions finish with a Super Bowl victory,I will be euphoric.  I freely admit my attitude toward the Lions is similar to many scoop posters attitude toward MU.   The best way I can describe it is that I am enjoying the ride but can see all of the potholes.   
   Lions fans in general are straddling the line between your description of 2016 Cubs fan and Eeyore like me.  They are traveling well and having fun, though. 

[BM1090]

Use of challenges and timeouts strategically is a huge point of game management for a HC.  A guy basically saying "We challenge any big play, cause why not?" is just dopey and more than just an explanation for that particular play.  At best, he was describing only that play and he sounded dumb and clueless.  At worst, he's describing an overall strategy which is beyond eyebrow raising.

Was this not a situation where the timeout was a fair risk for possibility of eliminating that play? I didn't see the game, so genuinely asking.

I'm assuming it's your "at best" scenario. If it's your "at worst" scenario then yes it's definitely very dumb.

[The Sultan]

Was this not a situation where the timeout was a fair risk for possibility of eliminating that play? I didn't see the game, so genuinely asking.

I'm assuming it's your "at best" scenario. If it's your "at worst" scenario then yes it's definitely very dumb.

I get there are times when you want to do that, but it was way too early in the game. It was the first play in the second half.