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Author Topic: Twitter Reading Limits  (Read 15687 times)

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Re: Twitter Reading Limits
« Reply #25 on: July 02, 2023, 05:44:42 PM »
My chatGPT web browser extension can no longer access Twitter. And Musk has implied this is by design.

Musk wants to cut off all the AI scrapping of Twitter data, as he wants them to pay him big $$$ for it.
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Re: Twitter Reading Limits
« Reply #26 on: July 02, 2023, 05:51:54 PM »
In less than a year, his $44B purchase is valued at $15B. And his brilliant move is to artificially limit the number of ads users can see from a decreasing advertiser base? I honestly don't think anyone could be worse at this if they deliberately tried.

Funny how all the users that said they were leaving Twitter last fall are now upset they can only view 600 (noe 1k) tweets a day.

Isn't irony rich!
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Re: Twitter Reading Limits
« Reply #27 on: July 02, 2023, 06:07:48 PM »
Twitter is purposely moving away from the advertising model. That is why they charge for Twitter Blue. Musk wants ad revenues to go to zero.

Are you looking at the drop in ad revenues to validate your political viewpoint? It has long been understood the ad revenue model is a problem for objectivity on all media platforms, no matter which side of the political aisle one is on. Kudos to Musk for trying something different (and yes, it is an open question as to whether this will work).

Question... do you view Bud Light moving away from Pride advertising and more toward "traditional" advertising as a repudiation of the Pride movement? Or does a fall in ad revenues only work one way for you?

All platforms must reduce their reliance on advertising, especially Big Pharma advertising.

Only New Zealand and the US allow Pharma advertising, as everyone else understands the harmful effects of pushing drugs direct to consumers. In the US, the drug dealers are in control, and we celebrate went the drug dealers boycott someone we don't like from a political viewpoint.

Twitter is a dying platform.  Bud Light sales have been supplemented by dozens of other InBev brands.
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Re: Twitter Reading Limits
« Reply #28 on: July 02, 2023, 07:18:08 PM »
Twitter is a dying platform.  Bud Light sales have been supplemented by dozens of other InBev brands.

enjoy

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Re: Twitter Reading Limits
« Reply #29 on: July 02, 2023, 07:34:43 PM »
enjoy

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Thanks.  Just moved over to Instagram.  Most of the folks I interact with on Twitter moved over there as well. 
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Re: Twitter Reading Limits
« Reply #30 on: July 02, 2023, 08:00:25 PM »
Funny how all the users that said they were leaving Twitter last fall are now upset they can only view 600 (noe 1k) tweets a day.

Isn't irony rich!

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Re: Twitter Reading Limits
« Reply #31 on: July 02, 2023, 09:27:52 PM »
Twitter is a dying platform.  Bud Light sales have been supplemented by dozens of other InBev brands.

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Re: Twitter Reading Limits
« Reply #32 on: July 02, 2023, 09:30:14 PM »
Twitter is purposely moving away from the advertising model. That is why they charge for Twitter Blue. Musk wants ad revenues to go to zero.

That seems to be his plan, and it is uneffingbelievably, mind-numbingly, apex moron level stupid. You can't give a product away for free for over a decade then expect people to pay and have that product survive. Anyone who's witnessed print journalism over the past couple decades would realize that's an incredibly idiotic business model for Twitter.
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Re: Twitter Reading Limits
« Reply #33 on: July 02, 2023, 09:38:39 PM »
Clown world.

Agree, Twitter is clown world
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Re: Twitter Reading Limits
« Reply #34 on: July 02, 2023, 09:53:55 PM »
All good points. Twitter stock and the platform itself were booming before Elon took over.

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Re: Twitter Reading Limits
« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2023, 04:08:47 AM »
I have said from the beginning that Twitter Blue is charging the wrong people. Twitter should be paying users who are providing the high traffic content and charging people to read it.

Not sure if it would work because I’m not sure the entire enterprise could ever be profitable.
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Re: Twitter Reading Limits
« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2023, 06:09:48 AM »
https://twitter.com/adam22/status/1675557626279776256?s=46&t=el-XnIMOEDcxAw3lmg3L5A

It’s also hard to say this app will ever fail with content like this.

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Re: Twitter Reading Limits
« Reply #37 on: July 03, 2023, 07:45:06 AM »
I haven't been this mad since the Metaverse died.

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Re: Twitter Reading Limits
« Reply #38 on: July 03, 2023, 07:54:35 AM »
https://twitter.com/adam22/status/1675557626279776256?s=46&t=el-XnIMOEDcxAw3lmg3L5A

It’s also hard to say this app will ever fail with content like this.

Nothing there? At this point it's hard to tell if it's the platform failing because they failed to pay their bills again, crappy business decisions, or just users deleting their content.

I think Twitter went full Pinterest and locked their content behind having an account.

 I don't think Twitter management understands their business model. They aren't the NYT. Subscriptions won't work unless content creation is either owned by the biz, or if creators are being paid. Should have snagged the business model from Twitch or Patreon, that would have generated a ton of cash without ducking up their creator/consumer marketplace. Right now they've pissed off both sides, really impressively bad business.

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Re: Twitter Reading Limits
« Reply #39 on: July 03, 2023, 07:57:00 AM »
That seems to be his plan, and it is uneffingbelievably, mind-numbingly, apex moron level stupid. You can't give a product away for free for over a decade then expect people to pay and have that product survive. Anyone who's witnessed print journalism over the past couple decades would realize that's an incredibly idiotic business model for Twitter.

He is asking the content producers to pay, not the consumers

I have said from the beginning that Twitter Blue is charging the wrong people. Twitter should be paying users who are providing the high traffic content and charging people to read it.

Not sure if it would work because I’m not sure the entire enterprise could ever be profitable.

What you are describing is the model of the last 70 years. That is paying for content (buying a TV show), and consumers get it for free. Supplement with advertising.

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Before Musk bought Twitter, Jack Dorsey told him he thought Twitter could never be profitable. Dorsey thinks it should be decentralized.

In April 2022, Dorsey tweeted:

“believe anyone should own or run Twitter,” explaining that he believes it should be a public good. “Solving for the problem of it being a company, however, Elon is the singular solution I trust”

So Dorsey started a decentralized social media app called Bluesky.

https://observer.com/2023/05/jack-dorsey-bluesky-twitter/





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Re: Twitter Reading Limits
« Reply #40 on: July 03, 2023, 08:04:13 AM »
Serious question: Who is reading more than 1,000 twits a day?
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Re: Twitter Reading Limits
« Reply #41 on: July 03, 2023, 08:08:20 AM »
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Re: Twitter Reading Limits
« Reply #42 on: July 03, 2023, 08:28:11 AM »
He is asking the content producers to pay, not the consumers

Patently untrue. He is making the experience worse for anyone who won't pay for Twitter Blue. He is delegitimizing the verification process so it doesn't mean what it's intended for.

Twitter will survive, albeit on life support like it is now, until a viable alternative arrives. Musk has failed in spectacular fashion. It wasn't Mastodon. Maybe it'll be Blue Sky, maybe it'll be something else. But Musk's involvement will be what kills the platform, and it's his own stupidity that is to blame.

He's not smart, he's not savvy, he's just a nepobaby who was propped up by other people's work, then failed on his biggest stage when he tried to run things. He's a dumb person's idea of a smart person, and it shows.
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Re: Twitter Reading Limits
« Reply #43 on: July 03, 2023, 08:39:24 AM »
I knew Twitter was great the first time I rizzed up a gurl on there
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Re: Twitter Reading Limits
« Reply #44 on: July 03, 2023, 08:40:44 AM »
Patently untrue. He is making the experience worse for anyone who won't pay for Twitter Blue. He is delegitimizing the verification process so it doesn't mean what it's intended for.

Twitter will survive, albeit on life support like it is now, until a viable alternative arrives. Musk has failed in spectacular fashion. It wasn't Mastodon. Maybe it'll be Blue Sky, maybe it'll be something else. But Musk's involvement will be what kills the platform, and it's his own stupidity that is to blame.

He's not smart, he's not savvy, he's just a nepobaby who was propped up by other people's work, then failed on his biggest stage when he tried to run things. He's a dumb person's idea of a smart person, and it shows.

He bought Twitter to get more likes on his jokes
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Re: Twitter Reading Limits
« Reply #45 on: July 03, 2023, 08:43:27 AM »
Ziggy needs to try that.
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Re: Twitter Reading Limits
« Reply #46 on: July 03, 2023, 08:43:51 AM »
Serious question: Who is reading more than 1,000 twits a day?

Every page load is 20±. Scroll quickly and it's more. You can easily hit 600-1000 in an hour.

Punishing your mega users is the opposite of what other successful subscription/microtransaction biz models do. You usually cultivate your whales.

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Re: Twitter Reading Limits
« Reply #47 on: July 03, 2023, 08:52:01 AM »
I thought the $8 subscription fee totaled a drop in the bucket compared to what they were getting in ad revenue. It sounded smart until actually doing the math.

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Re: Twitter Reading Limits
« Reply #48 on: July 03, 2023, 08:59:05 AM »
Patently untrue. He is making the experience worse for anyone who won't pay for Twitter Blue. He is delegitimizing the verification process so it doesn't mean what it's intended for.

Twitter will survive, albeit on life support like it is now, until a viable alternative arrives. Musk has failed in spectacular fashion. It wasn't Mastodon. Maybe it'll be Blue Sky, maybe it'll be something else. But Musk's involvement will be what kills the platform, and it's his own stupidity that is to blame.

He's not smart, he's not savvy, he's just a nepobaby who was propped up by other people's work, then failed on his biggest stage when he tried to run things. He's a dumb person's idea of a smart person, and it shows.

It sounds like you're assuming that Twitter can be a profitable company. It never was and was always a difficult company to manage. That's why the board wanted him to buy it at a price well off its all-time high. They knew it was a mess and the Twitter files detailed what a clusterf**k the place was.


So, maybe Dorsey has it right, no one should own or run Twitter. It should be decentralized.
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Re: Twitter Reading Limits
« Reply #49 on: July 03, 2023, 09:09:36 AM »
I have said from the beginning that Twitter Blue is charging the wrong people. Twitter should be paying users who are providing the high traffic content and charging people to read it.

Not sure if it would work because I’m not sure the entire enterprise could ever be profitable.

I thought the $8 subscription fee totaled a drop in the bucket compared to what they were getting in ad revenue. It sounded smart until actually doing the math.


What Musk is doing may not work, but returning to what they did (going back to begging for Ad revenue) has already been shown not to work.

So, something else has to be tried, not return to what did not work before (the definition of insanity is trying the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome).
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