Sports GOATS

[wadesworld]

Spin off of Rico's 5 best baseball players, who do you have as GOATS in different sports?

Basketball: MJ
Football: Brady
Baseball: Shohei
Hockey: Wayneo
Golf: Tiger
Track & Field: Usain
Volleyball: Karch Kiraly
Soccer: Freddy Adu
Mountain Climbing: Alex Honnold
Swimming: Phelps
Tennis: Serena

Top 3 GOATS (relative dominance in their respective sport): Bolt, Phelps, Tiger

[Uncle Rico]

Spin off of Rico's 5 best baseball players, who do you have as GOATS in different sports?

Basketball: MJ
Football: Brady
Baseball: Shohei
Hockey: Wayneo
Golf: Tiger
Track & Field: Usain
Volleyball: Karch Kiraly
Soccer: Freddy Adu
Mountain Climbing: Alex Honnold
Swimming: Phelps

Top 3 GOATS (relative dominance in their respective sport): Bolt, Phelps, Tiger

Basketball: Kareem
Football: Jim Brown
Baseball: Henry Aaron
Hockey: Gretzky
Golf: Hogan
Tennis: Serena

Can't speak on the others

[wadesworld]

Basketball: Kareem
Football: Jim Brown
Baseball: Henry Aaron
Hockey: Gretzky
Golf: Hogan
Tennis: Serena

Can't speak on the others

You're right about tennis.  I'll add that.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Spin off of Rico's 5 best baseball players, who do you have as GOATS in different sports?

Basketball: MJ
Football: Brady
Baseball: Shohei
Hockey: Wayneo
Golf: Tiger
Track & Field: Usain
Volleyball: Karch Kiraly
Soccer: Freddy Adu
Mountain Climbing: Alex Honnold
Swimming: Phelps
Tennis: Serena

Top 3 GOATS (relative dominance in their respective sport): Bolt, Phelps, Tiger

Freddy Adu over Maradona? Or Ronaldo? Or Messi?

[Jockey]

Freddy Adu over Maradona? Or Ronaldo? Or Messi?

Pele?

[MU82]

Basketball: Ners.

Maybe a couple other sports, too!

[wadesworld]

Freddy Adu over Maradona? Or Ronaldo? Or Messi?

Obviously I was joking. I don't know enough about soccer. If I had to make a serious pick it'd be Messi, but it'd be a very uninformed pick.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Obviously I was joking. I don't know enough about soccer. If I had to make a serious pick it'd be Messi, but it'd be a very uninformed pick.

Ah, got it.

[StillAWarrior]

Obviously I was joking. I don't know enough about soccer. If I had to make a serious pick it'd be Messi, but it'd be a very uninformed pick.

Roy Kent

He's here, he's there, he's every-f*cking-where.

[Its DJOver]

Would you consider Eliud Kipchoge Track & Field, or another category?  He's been about as dominant as possible considering his sport.

[lawdog77]

Would you consider Eliud Kipchoge Track & Field, or another category?  He's been about as dominant as possible considering his sport.

Track and Field, I would throw Carl Lewis, Edwin Moses, Jess Owens, and Jim Thorpe into the conversation

[Jay Bee]

Cornhole: tsmith34

[Uncle Rico]

I lived in college with a track athlete and he worshipped Michael Johnson, so I'll say him

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Cornhole: tsmith34

Those guys are ripped

[MuggsyB]

I see the non-human animal kingdom has been disregarded once again.  Keep in mind what any 🐆 would do to Usain Bolt?  A toddler would have a better chance of guarding Giannis. 

[Jay Bee]

I see the non-human animal kingdom has been been disregarded once again.  Keep in mind what any 🐆 would do to Usain Bolt?  A toddler would have a better chance of guarding Giannis. 

Fair point. Why do we not let so called animals vote in this country? I placed my superbowl bet on which food dish the dog went to first the part two years, and won. Equality for all is the next chapter. We need to include animals and plants, pronto

[MuggsyB]

Fair point. Why do we not let so called animals vote in this country? I placed my superbowl bet on which food dish the dog went to first the part two years, and won. Equality for all is the next chapter. We need to include animals and plants, pronto

My old Dalmatian would annihilate Bolt in the 100m and 200m. 

[forgetful]

Spin off of Rico's 5 best baseball players, who do you have as GOATS in different sports?

Basketball: MJ
Football: Brady
Baseball: Shohei
Hockey: Wayneo
Golf: Tiger
Track & Field: Usain
Volleyball: Karch Kiraly
Soccer: Freddy Adu
Mountain Climbing: Alex Honnold
Swimming: Phelps
Tennis: Serena

Top 3 GOATS (relative dominance in their respective sport): Bolt, Phelps, Tiger

Interesting that those are your top 3. Two of them, I wouldn't even have as the GOAT in their sport.

I'd put Pavlo Nurmi at the top for Track/Field. I'd also put Carl Lewis ahead of Bolt, but they'd be close (Go with Lewis because of his additional dominance in the long jump).

In Golf, hard to argue Tiger ahead of Nicklaus.

[Mutaman]

I see the non-human animal kingdom has been disregarded once again. 

They run the distance of 11/8 miles at Belmont Park at least 5 or 6 times per week. 50 years ago Secretariat ran  11/8 miles at Belmont in 1:45.40 . The record still stands. Of course Secretariat's 1 1/2 mile record also still stands but they only run that distance a few times per year. And of course he has run the fastest  time ever in all three triple crown races.
But its that 11/8 track record at Belmont that really blows my mind.

[Uncle Rico]

Interesting that those are your top 3. Two of them, I wouldn't even have as the GOAT in their sport.

I'd put Pavlo Nurmi at the top for Track/Field. I'd also put Carl Lewis ahead of Bolt, but they'd be close (Go with Lewis because of his additional dominance in the long jump).

In Golf, hard to argue Tiger ahead of Nicklaus.

My argument for Tiger would be, Tiger chased perfection and damn near achieved it.  Has every shot.  Nicklaus didn't exclusively play left-to-right but didn't change much through the years (of course, he didn't have to).  Tiger was an engineer and artist.  His competition was much stronger and deeper, too. 

[MuggsyB]

They run the distance of 11/8 miles at Belmont Park at least 5 or 6 times per week. 50 years ago Secretariat ran  11/8 miles at Belmont in 1:45.40 . The record still stands. Of course Secretariat's 1 1/2 mile record also still stands but they only run that distance a few times per year. And of course he has run the fastest  time ever in all three triple crown races.
But its that 11/8 track record at Belmont that really blows my mind.

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Outstanding point.  Secretariat was phenomenal. 

[Uncle Rico]

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Outstanding point.  Secretariat was phenomenal.

Like a tremendous machine

[MuggsyB]

Let's not forget how athletic actual goats are?  I could watch ibexes zoom down vertical cliffs all day.  And they can do that as babies.  Keep in mind if any human or other animal attempted that the result would be immediate darkness.  And we're impressed with rock climbing humans? Please.  We should be far, far, more respectful of the entire animal kingdom. We're just not that special and are responsible for way too many probs. 

[WhiteTrash]

My argument for Tiger would be, Tiger chased perfection and damn near achieved it.  Has every shot.  Nicklaus didn't exclusively play left-to-right but didn't change much through the years (of course, he didn't have to).  Tiger was an engineer and artist.  His competition was much stronger and deeper, too.

These are fun discussions. Great for the dog days of summer.

I find it interesting if someone picks Tom Brady and Tiger Woods. Tom is the most accomplished football player, Jack is the most accomplished golfer. Tiger has good arguments for GOAT, except for winning the majors, and most people would not call Tom the best QB of his own generation, much less all time player. So does winning matta or no matta?

My vote is Tom and Jack. 

[wadesworld]

I probably shouldn't have made picks on track and field (and others). Like soccer, I don't follow it closely enough. Usain is just the athlete that got me interested in anything T&F, and he made it look so easy.

You could cut Tom's career into first half and second half and he'd have 2 HOF careers. He always had great defenses and Bellichick, but some of the numbers he was putting up with the receivers he had are absurd.

I'd stick with Tiger as the GOAT. Injuries hurt his chance to pass Jack, but he's the most dominant golfer.