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Pakuni

#250
Quote from: WellsstreetWanderer on July 04, 2023, 02:02:54 PM
People who actually suffered under Mao,Stalin and Chubby in No Korea have been coming out and stating that this is exactly what is happening on campuses all over. One Speak  or you face failing a course or the Academic brown shirts write letters asking for your firing.
The greatest impediment to understanding is the belief that the position you hold is universal - Nietsche

Universities used to be bastions of free speach and discussions among diverse thought . Sadly no longer

I very much doubt people who suffered under Mao, Stalin and the Dear Leaders of North Korea have said anything of the sort, and if they are, they're morons ... as is anyone who would take such a remark seriously.
Nobody is being sent to the Gulag. Nobody is being murdered on the quad for their opinions. Nobody is being sent to forced labor camps.
Any such suggestion is pure idiocy.
But keep playing the victim.


Pakuni

Quote from: ZaLiN on July 04, 2023, 01:34:08 PM
Would you kill baby hitler

Pre-born or post-born Hitler?
One is precious. The other is a waste of my tax dollars.

forgetful

Quote from: tower912 on July 04, 2023, 01:41:28 PM
Teaching facts is not indoctrination.  I would not consider a flat earthen a worthy science teacher.  I don't want a holocaust denier as a history teacher.   If you think that makes me closed minded.... thank you.

Agreed 100%. I'll also note, that not only is it not indoctrination, but the high school and college aged kids actually would prefer for education to be far far far more liberal than it is.

It is the parents that view teaching facts indoctrination, the kids want things more liberal than they are if anything.

tower912

The weaponization of Karen-ism.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

rocket surgeon

the minimization and the projection here is overwhelming.  i haven't seen many (none) of the college speeches nor commencement speakers from the left being protested and/or rescinded.  i'm sure you guys might find 1 or 2, but compare this to essentially all of those with a sniff of right wing pollys.

  tower you speak of "karen's" and "snowflakes" often, but put a decent conservative speaker on a college campus and the lefties hair goes on fire.  remember when you know who was elected and schools had to cancel tests, bring in llamas and gerbils to calm them down? 

and these aren't all students reactions, but teachers and admin alike
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

tower912

'Decent conservative speaker'

I think the vast majority of campuses would invite one if they could find one.   Sadly, intellectual conservative thought has become an oxymoron.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: rocket surgeon on July 04, 2023, 05:01:29 PM
the minimization and the projection here is overwhelming.  i haven't seen many (none) of the college speeches nor commencement speakers from the left being protested and/or rescinded.  i'm sure you guys might find 1 or 2, but compare this to essentially all of those with a sniff of right wing pollys.

  tower you speak of "karen's" and "snowflakes" often, but put a decent conservative speaker on a college campus and the lefties hair goes on fire.  remember when you know who was elected and schools had to cancel tests, bring in llamas and gerbils to calm them down? 

and these aren't all students reactions, but teachers and admin alike

8 of 10
Guster is for Lovers

Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on July 04, 2023, 05:09:27 PM
'Decent conservative speaker'

I think the vast majority of campuses would invite one if they could find one.   Sadly, intellectual conservative thought has become an oxymoron.

Why won't they invite Dan Bongino or Charlie Kirk, the voices of conservatism?
Guster is for Lovers

tower912

https://news.yahoo.com/uchicago-debate-over-free-speech-172151160.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

Conservatives don't like a class, they organize hate doxing of a professor.       

Which seems somewhat familiar.....
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

tower912

Invite Kristina Karamo (head of the Michigan Republican Party) to MU to discuss her theory that demonic possession is passed from person to person through sexual contact.    But who should she debate?    A scientist?    A theologian?    An exorcist?
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: tower912 on July 04, 2023, 05:24:01 PM
https://news.yahoo.com/uchicago-debate-over-free-speech-172151160.html?fr=sycsrp_catchall

Conservatives don't like a class, they organize hate doxing of a professor.       

Which seems somewhat familiar.....
That is hilarious. The conservatives ran that process to the letter of the liberal playbook to shut down free speech.

People need to grow up, let people speak, and choose to listen or not listen. The hate and vitriol from both sides is sickening. 

rocket surgeon

Quote from: tower912 on July 04, 2023, 05:09:27 PM
'Decent conservative speaker'

I think the vast majority of campuses would invite one if they could find one.   Sadly, intellectual conservative thought has become an oxymoron.

  difficult to have a serious conversation with this, but you're in friendly waters so carry on tower
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

Lennys Tap

Quote from: WhiteTrash on July 04, 2023, 06:20:34 PM
That is hilarious. The conservatives ran that process to the letter of the liberal playbook to shut down free speech.

People need to grow up, let people speak, and choose to listen or not listen. The hate and vitriol from both sides is sickening.

Of course you're right, but "liberal" thinkers like Tower have decided that there are no Conservatives who deserve a place in any debate so it's a grand idea to shut them out. Of course any truly liberal thinker would vomit at such an idea but when one side pretty much takes over it's what can happen - phony liberals become authoritarians.

Dickthedribbler

Quote from: rocket surgeon on July 04, 2023, 05:01:29 PM
the minimization and the projection here is overwhelming.  i haven't seen many (none) of the college speeches nor commencement speakers from the left being protested and/or rescinded.  i'm sure you guys might find 1 or 2, but compare this to essentially all of those with a sniff of right wing pollys.

  tower you speak of "karen's" and "snowflakes" often, but put a decent conservative speaker on a college campus and the lefties hair goes on fire.  remember when you know who was elected and schools had to cancel tests, bring in llamas and gerbils to calm them down? 

and these aren't all students reactions, but teachers and admin alike

ROCKET: It was a good week for the United States Constitution and for the justice system.   
And as long as people like Justices Alito and Thomas remain stewards of that system, the Marxists can be held off from taking control of all of our institutions, at least for a little while longer.

ChitownSpaceForRent

#264
Quote from: Dickthedribbler on July 04, 2023, 08:47:10 PM
ROCKET: It was a good week for the United States Constitution and for the justice system.   
And as long as people like Justices Alito and Thomas remain stewards of that system, the Marxists can be held off from taking control of all of our institutions, at least for a little while longer.

Define Marxism in your own words.

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Dickthedribbler on July 04, 2023, 08:47:10 PM
ROCKET: It was a good week for the United States Constitution and for the justice system.   
And as long as people like Justices Alito and Thomas remain stewards of that system, the Marxists can be held off from taking control of all of our institutions, at least for a little while longer.

  right on richard, but note, our constitution is only under attack and the supreme court is activist only when they come out with decisions they don't agree with.  pack em up until ya get what ya want??


book banning?  umm, yeah,  catcher in the rye and huck finn vs gender queer...tough calls??  half the kids can't read anyway, so no harm no foul, eyn'a??

felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

The Sultan

Quote from: Dickthedribbler on July 04, 2023, 08:47:10 PM
ROCKET: It was a good week for the United States Constitution and for the justice system.   
And as long as people like Justices Alito and Thomas remain stewards of that system, the Marxists can be held off from taking control of all of our institutions, at least for a little while longer.


This has to be irony right?

Anyway, if you think college's and university's are brainwashing the youth of America, wait until I tell you about what conservative media is doing to the Boomers.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

tower912

So, regarding the lack of conservative thought....

Name one item from the 2020 national GOP platform.  (Hint: trick question)

Name the last GOP policy initiative to move the country forward that wasn't just rebranded tax cuts for the rich.  One that moved all people forward.

What are rhe GOP policy initiatives going forward?   Keep young people from voting?  Make discrimination great again?   F Biden and anyone who voted for him?

I miss intellectual discussions with conservative friends and colleagues about tax policy, productive education reforms, limited foreign entanglements, how should we best contain Russia, how government can best be used to make the country better, or not.   

Ironically, Trump is afraid to campaign on his greatest (IMO) accomplishment.   Operation Warp Speed ultimately saved a million lives.  He gets booed.    And that, to me, as much as anything, encapsulates what currently passes for conservative thought.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

And they just label people who disagree with them as "woke" or "Marxists." Two words that have lost all semblance of meaning.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Uncle Rico

Quote from: rocket surgeon on July 05, 2023, 05:56:16 AM
  right on richard, but note, our constitution is only under attack and the supreme court is activist only when they come out with decisions they don't agree with.  pack em up until ya get what ya want??


book banning?  umm, yeah,  catcher in the rye and huck finn vs gender queer...tough calls??  half the kids can't read anyway, so no harm no foul, eyn'a??

8.5 out of 10
Guster is for Lovers

MU82

Liz Cheney, who for years was one of the most reliably conservative votes in the House, was canceled because she refused to bend the knee to the indicted, impeached, adulterous leader of the "law and order" and "family values" party.

#cancelculture
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

WhiteTrash

Quote from: MU82 on July 05, 2023, 08:33:33 AM
Liz Cheney, who for years was one of the most reliably conservative votes in the House, was canceled because she refused to bend the knee to the indicted, impeached, adulterous leader of the "law and order" and "family values" party.

#cancelculture
Bill Clinton?

Pakuni

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on July 05, 2023, 06:24:55 AM
And they just label people who disagree with them as "woke" or "Marxists." Two words that have lost all semblance of meaning.

You forgot "groomers."

Skatastrophy

Quote from: WhiteTrash on July 05, 2023, 09:03:13 AM
Bill Clinton?

Yes, unironically the Ds are more supportive of law and order and family values at this point in history.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Dickthedribbler on July 04, 2023, 08:47:10 PM
ROCKET: It was a good week for the United States Constitution and for the justice system.   
And as long as people like Justices Alito and Thomas remain stewards of that system, the Marxists can be held off from taking control of all of our institutions, at least for a little while longer.

Your ilk will age out of existence soon enough and your backwards thought will go along with.

Good riddance to most of you.

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