2023-24 NBA Thread

[Uncle Rico]

I'm happy for Bronny and his old man.  What a thrill it'll be for them to play together.

A bunch of hand-wringing over nothing

[Pakuni]

A few of them yes, but Giannis was averaging 6ppg when Thanasis was drafted.  He's only still around to keep Giannis happy, but a lot of the online comparisons (not necessarily here) seem to forget that he actually made it on his own and ground out a G-League/overseas career before he became the most expensive hype man in the world.  Whereas Bronny is only in the league at all because of his last name.

Lots of people are in the NBA because of their last name.

[MU82]

I'm happy for Bronny and his old man.  What a thrill it'll be for them to play together.

A bunch of hand-wringing over nothing

Yep.

[JWags85]

Lots of people are in the NBA because of their last name.

As players? Like who?

[Pakuni]

As players? Like who?

Didn't say players.
Nepotism in the league is only an issue when it involves players, I suppose.

[Its DJOver]

Didn't say players.
Nepotism in the league is only an issue when it involves players, I suppose.

The specific example I was talking about involved players. Your comment is related but not really relevant to my point.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Austin Rivers' longevity

[Its DJOver]

Austin Rivers' longevity

Longevity sure.  Throw in Seth Curry and plenty of others too, but they still made the League on their own merit. 

If Bronny didn't have that last name he'd either be getting ready for another year at USC or, if he really wanted to be a pro, heading overseas.

Nothing wrong with that, everyone knows the game and how it's played.  My original point was that people that compare him to Thanasis are missing the mark because Thanasis made the League before Giannis was a superstar.  He had a career before he became a meme.

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

How many top 25 all time players were still able to be in an nba game, let alone relevant talent wise when their sons arrived at the nba age? It's a 1 of 1 scenario

[Pakuni]

The specific example I was talking about involved players. Your comment is related but not really relevant to my point.

OK, but when has this of situation ever presented itself? When was the last time an NBA superstar had a son old enough to play in the league?
Does anybody think that if Jordan's kids were old enough, and sticking one of them on the roster meant keeping MJ on the roster, it wouldn't have happened?

[GB Warrior]

Guys, the majority of 2nd round picks are ass and exist only as some combination of cap filler or practice vibez guys. Whole lot of hand wringing over the nepo pick who probably sucks worse than the aforementioned but also keeps the star happy

[MU82]

How many top 25 all time players were still able to be in an nba game, let alone relevant talent wise when their sons arrived at the nba age? It's a 1 of 1 scenario

Yep. Total non-issue.

[Its DJOver]

OK, but when has this of situation ever presented itself? When was the last time an NBA superstar had a son old enough to play in the league?
Does anybody think that if Jordan's kids were old enough, and sticking one of them on the roster meant keeping MJ on the roster, it wouldn't have happened?

As I said, everyone knows the game and how it's played.  I have no problem with that.  I take exception to the comparisons to Thanasis because he made it before his last name guaranteed him a spot on the end of the bench.

[forgetful]

Didn't say players.
Nepotism in the league is only an issue when it involves players, I suppose.

I recognize it is widespread, and accept it as a reality of the world.

I just thought it was funny and laughable, that the Lakers tried to sell the idea that his contract/drafting was "earned."

I also recognize they can't just openly say, yes we are doing this only because of his dad, but maybe just don't respond.

Or if questioned on the matter simply say, that as an organization the only thing we focus on is assembling the best basketball team we can.

[cheebs09]

OK, but when has this of situation ever presented itself? When was the last time an NBA superstar had a son old enough to play in the league?
Does anybody think that if Jordan's kids were old enough, and sticking one of them on the roster meant keeping MJ on the roster, it wouldn't have happened?

The bigger question would be if MJ would cut his son out of the will for scoring on him or making a mistake in practice.

[JWags85]

Does anybody think that if Jordan's kids were old enough, and sticking one of them on the roster meant keeping MJ on the roster, it wouldn't have happened?

It's not to deify MJ, but I don't even think he would have wanted it, if it wasn't meaningfully going to help them win.  As Cheebs joked, he'd be way more likely to not stand for underperformance than rejoice in the vibes.

And for all the terrible performance of the Bobcats/Hornets under his ownership, he didn't install his kids in front office positions.

The amusing thing is Marcus put up fairly solid college numbers, certainly don't look as WTF on paper like Bronny.

Related, I don't think his kid is a hooper and he'd be 4-5 years too young, but I could see Chris Paul doing this too in a similar scenario.

[WhiteTrash]

I have no problem with Bronny given a spot.
I have no problem with legacy admissions to college.
I have no problem with nepotism.

Bronny getting drafted by the Lakers is no different than a kid with a 28 ACT getting into Yale because of dad's position. Except the Lakers pay better than Yale.

[WhiteTrash]

Bronny got 4yr, $8M contract. How much is TK going to get? 4Yr $10M?

[Not all scoop users are created equal apparently]

Bronny got 4yr, $8M contract. How much is TK going to get? 4Yr $10M?

Lakers easily making that back in eyeballs because of it

[Uncle Rico]

Bronny got 4yr, $8M contract. How much is TK going to get? 4Yr $10M?

You have a problem with Bronny getting a spot.  And LeBron.

[tower912]

Looking forward to history being made.

[WhiteTrash]

Lakers easily making that back in eyeballs because of it

Agreed.

How will TK's contract match up?

[forgetful]

Lakers easily making that back in eyeballs because of it

Doubt it. They are already reporting that he is going to sit at the end of the bench for the 1st week, then be relegated to the G-league.

[cheebs09]

Bronny got 4yr, $8M contract. How much is TK going to get? 4Yr $10M?

If the Lakers want to waste money, that's their prerogative. It's not like the league created an extra roster spot for him or something.

[rocket surgeon]

the bucks have done chit since...when??  they haven't done anything to improve themselves while watching all the other contenders get stronger.  Giannis throwing away another season and dame gonna still be home sick