Az. water conservation

[JWags85]

There isn't a single good reason to visit Arizona

The Sonora Desert Museum outside Tuscon is absolutely incredible and fascinating.

[panda]

There isn't a single good reason to visit Arizona

Nerd alert

[muwarrior69]

Thank goodness for the Great Lakes compact. So many people out there are so condescending about people fleeing Midwest cities, how much better things are than they are here, blah blah blah,  poaching industries and other jobs. They can't have my water too.
So there.

Many of my MU class mates that lived in the Milwaukee area had central water softeners in their homes because the water was pretty hard. Of course that was nearly 60 years ago.

[Uncle Rico]

  GOLF GOLF & GOLF  there's 3 right there

The golf in Arizona is garbage

[rocky_warrior]

Yeah that's a pretty dumb idea.

Hah, it was a creative idea, and certainly a smarter one than a "Pipe from the Mississippi", but also bad in many ways.

Unless our only goal is to sustain high populations in the US SW -- which depending on who you ask might be our only goal.

[The Sultan]

Many of my MU class mates that lived in the Milwaukee area had central water softeners in their homes because the water was pretty hard. Of course that was nearly 60 years ago.

That's still pretty much the case.

[panda]

The golf in Arizona is garbage

Compared to what

[Uncle Rico]

Compared to what

The rest of the world

[panda]

The rest of the world

Where have you played in az ?

[Skatastrophy]

Imagine having to replace all the grass on your course twice a year just to keep up with the weather extremes. Absolutely wild

[Uncle Rico]

Where have you played in az ?

TPC Scottsdale, Talking Stick (best courses out there), The Boulders, Dinosaur Mountain, Grayhawk, Lookout Mountain, Camelback, Dove Mountain, Gold Canyon.

Haven't played We-Ko-Pa yet.  Crenshaw/Coore designs are usually world class

[rocket surgeon]

Imagine having to replace all the grass on your course twice a year just to keep up with the weather extremes. Absolutely wild

  if you are  referring to Az golf courses, they don't necessarily replace the grass, they over seed.

they also have had very effective management programs in place since the 1980's

https://wrrc.arizona.edu/awr/sp09/golf

[rocket surgeon]

TPC Scottsdale, Talking Stick (best courses out there), The Boulders, Dinosaur Mountain, Grayhawk, Lookout Mountain, Camelback, Dove Mountain, Gold Canyon.

Haven't played We-Ko-Pa yet.  Crenshaw/Coore designs are usually world class

  the talking stick courses are just ok

the verrado founders and victory courses, quintero, superstition mountain, wickenburg ranch, laughlin ranch(bullhead city), ocotillo, lookout mountain (back 9) wigwam gold, estrella mountain, emerald canyon(parker) cerbat cliffs(kingman)...

 

[Uncle Rico]

  the talking stick courses are just ok

the verrado founders and victory courses, quintero, superstition mountain, wickenburg ranch, laughlin ranch(bullhead city), ocotillo, lookout mountain (back 9) wigwam gold, estrella mountain, emerald canyon(parker) cerbat cliffs(kingman)...

They should all be closed to conserve water

[RJax55]

The rest of the world

Lol. Florida golf is worse.

[Uncle Rico]

Lol. Florida golf is worse.

I would listen to that argument

[dgies9156]

Embridge pipeline will rupture make it a moot point.

You think?

It hasn't yet and it's been there since the 1950s.

Perhaps if the Governor of Michigan would stop fighting a tunnel under the straits at Sault Ste. Marie, the problem would be solved.

The implications of that closing that pipeline are severe in Southern Ontario. They're also severe in Superior, WI, where Embridge has major operations, including a refinery. My Dad, an environmental engineer and then-head of the Douglas County (WI) Development Corporation, fought to keep the refining operations open. They did but it would be killed (and hundreds of high paying jobs lost) if Embridge were terminated.

By the way, closing a pipeline means shipping more crude oil by tanker cars on trains. That's a separate risk all its own.

[rocket surgeon]

ahhh yes, global warming at it's best...
https://abcnews.go.com/US/photos-show-dramatic-difference-water-levels-lake-oroville/story?id=100198914


remember when the great lakes water levels were perilously low 1999-2014?  yup, global warming alarmists were celebrating, algore was reaping $$ and then...poof...the great lakes water levels are above average and rising-oh no, party's over until...the next hurricane and/or wild fire

https://www.wkar.org/wkar-news/2023-05-11/great-lakes-water-levels-up-from-historical-average

[The Sultan]

I mean it is growing objectively warmer. I don't think there is much dispute about that.

What that means for year to year variations on the Great Lakes, I have no idea.

[tower912]

You think?

It hasn't yet and it's been there since the 1950s.

Perhaps if the Governor of Michigan would stop fighting a tunnel under the straits at Sault Ste. Marie, the problem would be solved.

The implications of that closing that pipeline are severe in Southern Ontario. They're also severe in Superior, WI, where Embridge has major operations, including a refinery. My Dad, an environmental engineer and then-head of the Douglas County (WI) Development Corporation, fought to keep the refining operations open. They did but it would be killed (and hundreds of high paying jobs lost) if Embridge were terminated.

By the way, closing a pipeline means shipping more crude oil by tanker cars on trains. That's a separate risk all its own.

Better harangue the Wisconsin judge who sided with a local tribe.

[rocket surgeon]

I mean it is growing objectively warmer. I don't think there is much dispute about that.

What that means for year to year variations on the Great Lakes, I have no idea.

well duh, we'll experience some global warming for the next few months, then gradually back to cooler weather september thru february/march

great lakes water supply as with many others are going to fluctuate just as they have over the past, ohhh, few centuries even before man...gasp!!

[The Sultan]

well duh, we'll experience some global warming for the next few months, then gradually back to cooler weather september thru february/march

great lakes water supply as with many others are going to fluctuate just as they have over the past, ohhh, few centuries even before man...gasp!!

Homo sapiens have been around for longer than the Great Lakes.

[Skatastrophy]

well duh, we'll experience some global warming for the next few months, then gradually back to cooler weather september thru february/march

great lakes water supply as with many others are going to fluctuate just as they have over the past, ohhh, few centuries even before man...gasp!!

I didn't think there were still people that confused climate change with weather. Are you a flat earther too?

This is great it's like a bit

[Uncle Rico]

I didn't think there were still people that confused climate change with weather. Are you a flat earther too?

This is great it's like a bit

It's art, really

[tower912]

Ivermectin will reverse climate change.