2023 Ryder Cup

[The Sultan]

I still think Koepka needs to play his way on.   The LIV defectors were told what would happen to their Ryder Cup careers.  They took the money.   Actions have consequences.

Whoa, whoa...

You are expecting rich, white men to actually face consequences for their actions?

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[tower912]

Bahahahahahaha

[MU82]

After the second round of the Masters, Koepka said he probably wouldn't have defected to LIV if he had been healthy at the time. He went for the guaranteed dough because he wasn't sure he'd ever get back to his top form.

So he's not exactly the best spokesperson or example for all the wonders of LIV, and IMHO he's the most likely to return to the PGA Tour as soon as his contract would let him do it.

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After the second round of the Masters, Koepka said he probably wouldn't have defected to LIV if he had been healthy at the time. He went for the guaranteed dough because he wasn't sure he'd ever get back to his top form.

So he's not exactly the best spokesperson or example for all the wonders of LIV, and IMHO he's the most likely to return to the PGA Tour as soon as his contract would let him do it.

[Uncle Rico]

we can't afford to leave a talent such as brooks off the team at this moment.  for those who have trouble with the LIV thingy, hold your noses.  the ryder cup is too important to allow emotions to get in the way.  swallow hard and give america it's best chance with it's best lineup

I'd rather lose with class and grace than win with a guy who so mocked a shrine like Augusta by breaking the rules with no shame and now makes fun of it.

You learn a lot about a person with how they play golf

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26 hours later, America's best hope is absolutely locked into another great American tradition.

https://twitter.com/pftcommenter/status/1660826856432566272?s=46&t=xZ6WfpbU7YByIxdAMf5kbg

[Uncle Rico]

No way Zach Johnson can put Justin Thomas on the team

[Herman Cain]

No way Zach Johnson can put Justin Thomas on the team

Maybe JT will rally at The Open

[Uncle Rico]

Maybe JT will rally at The Open

To make the cut?

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How we feeling for the good guys?

(7)Locks/Almost Locks Based on Points (Understood only 6 are points, but there's moving still happening)
Scottie
Clark
Harman
Brooks
Xander
Canlay
Homa

(5) Picks
Spieth
Rickie
Cam Young
Morikawa
Keegan Bradley

JT should come out after the TOUR Championship and announce himself as an Ass Cap.

[MU82]

"At least he can bet on the Ryder Cup this year because he won't be a part of it."

-- Rory, talking about Phil.

[cheebs09]

"At least he can bet on the Ryder Cup this year because he won't be a part of it."

-- Rory, talking about Phil.

[Lennys Tap]

"At least he can bet on the Ryder Cup this year because he won't be a part of it."

-- Rory, talking about Phil.

Rory a Mormon or a Muslim?

[MU82]

Rory a Mormon or a Muslim?

Does one have to be a Mormon or a Muslim to think it's wrong for a PGA Tour member to gamble on an event in which he is participating?

[Lennys Tap]

Does one have to be a Mormon or a Muslim to think it's wrong for a PGA Tour member to gamble on an event in which he is participating?

Sure helps.

[MuggsyB]

If Mickelson bet 1 billion over the course (no pun intended) of however many years, I would say there's a 100% chance the Saudi's paid his debt.  The man is clearly sick.  I'm not suggesting anyone should feel sorry for him but we're talking about someone seriously insane, ill, and not capable of stopping his addiction. 

[JWags85]

If Mickelson bet 1 billion over the course (no pun intended) of however many years, I would say there's a 100% chance the Saudi's paid his debt.  The man is clearly sick.  I'm not suggesting anyone should feel sorry for him but we're talking about someone seriously insane, ill, and not capable of stopping his addiction.

First off, you're totally correct in the second part.  As someone who has battled with it and has heard many stories at GA meetings and the like, its insidious and just as brutal as other addictions more commonly know.

That being said, the sum is being talked about over 2-3 decades.  And thats just the sum of his bets, not his losses.  I could bet $1MM, lose half of my bets and be down less than $100K.  He's an exceptionally wealthy man and even if his losses totaled $100-200MM, you're talking about someone who has earned $40MM+ a year for the better part of 20+ years.  He's got more than enough to cover it.

Could they have?  Sure.  But I don't necessarily think its an absolute certainty, despite the nose bleedingly high numbers.

[Lennys Tap]

If Mickelson bet 1 billion over the course (no pun intended) of however many years, I would say there's a 100% chance the Saudi's paid his debt.  The man is clearly sick.  I'm not suggesting anyone should feel sorry for him but we're talking about someone seriously insane, ill, and not capable of stopping his addiction.

"Seriously insane"? Anything - drugs, drinking, gambling, over eating, video games, the need to have your sock drawer arranged a certain way, etc - can become addictive. Serious insanity (is there a non serious form) is another matter altogether.

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

[Pakuni]

"Seriously insane"? Anything - drugs, drinking, gambling, over eating, video games, the need to have your sock drawer arranged a certain way, etc - can become addictive. Serious insanity (is there a non serious form) is another matter altogether.

Not anything can become addictive the way gambling can. There's scientific evidence showing how gambling activates the brain in the same way as addictive drugs and alcohol do, creating an actual physical addiction. It is recognized as a mental illness by the scientific community.
The same can't be said by sock drawer preferences or video gaming.

[lawdog77]

Not anything can become addictive the way gambling can. There's scientific evidence showing how gambling activates the brain in the same way as addictive drugs and alcohol do, creating an actual physical addiction. It is recognized as a mental illness by the scientific community.
The same can't be said by sock drawer preferences or video gaming.

Actually video gaming disorder is recognized as a disease.

[Pakuni]

Actually video gaming disorder is recognized as a disease.

Not in the DSM it isn't.

[MuggsyB]

Not anything can become addictive the way gambling can. There's scientific evidence showing how gambling activates the brain in the same way as addictive drugs and alcohol do, creating an actual physical addiction. It is recognized as a mental illness by the scientific community.
The same can't be said by sock drawer preferences or video gaming.

I probably made a word poor choice with insane but there are obviously significant nuances within addictions and diseases.  Including the differences between alcoholism and gambling.

[lawdog77]

Not in the DSM it isn't.

It is by the World Health Organization,  in the ICD-11.

If you don't think it can be an addiction, I feel bad for you.