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Uncle Rico

Guster is for Lovers

The Sultan

Sundown you better take care.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Herman Cain

Had listened to a lot of his songs recently

The Wreck of The Edmund Fitzgerald was a classic
"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
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21Jumpstreet

Quote from: Herman Cain on May 01, 2023, 10:46:32 PM
Had listened to a lot of his songs recently

The Wreck of The Edmund Fitzgerald was a classic

Used to drink $.80 Busch Light Drafts and listen to this on the jukebox at Listwan's back in the day. Good memories

tower912

An old Irish melody.   Also used for 'Back Home in Derry'.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on May 01, 2023, 08:41:09 PM
Sundown you better take care.

Song was about Cathy Smith, a famous groupie of sorts back in the day. She was in the bungalow with Belushi the day he died - may have been the one who concocted the 8 ball that killed him.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 02, 2023, 08:08:53 AM
Song was about Cathy Smith, a famous groupie of sorts back in the day. She was in the bungalow with Belushi the day he died - may have been the one who concocted the 8 ball that killed him.

She went to jail for it
Guster is for Lovers

lawdog77


Scoop Snoop

Quote from: Herman Cain on May 01, 2023, 10:46:32 PM
Had listened to a lot of his songs recently

The Wreck of The Edmund Fitzgerald was a classic

I thought it was a nice tribute, but I knew well a guy who worked in the Great Lakes shipping business at the time. He said the families of the men from the Fitzgerald were very upset about the song.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on May 02, 2023, 09:44:59 AM
I thought it was a nice tribute, but I knew well a guy who worked in the Great Lakes shipping business at the time. He said the families of the men from the Fitzgerald were very upset about the song.

I believe he gave proceeds to the families from the song
Guster is for Lovers

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 02, 2023, 09:48:10 AM
I believe he gave proceeds to the families from the song

If so, glad to hear that. I was simply passing along what I heard from a guy in a position to know that there were families upset about the song.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on May 02, 2023, 09:52:41 AM
If so, glad to hear that. I was simply passing along what I heard from a guy in a position to know that there were families upset about the song.

I can see that and it would be difficult to hear that song

In some ways, profiting off the tragedy in song is questionable, though based on his songwriting, it certainly wasn't meant to be
Guster is for Lovers

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: Uncle Rico on May 02, 2023, 09:57:30 AM
I can see that and it would be difficult to hear that song

In some ways, profiting off the tragedy in song is questionable, though based on his songwriting, it certainly wasn't meant to be

I think you nailed it. Lightfoot, I would guess, was probably surprised by the reaction.

My source worked on a number of Great Lake ships as an engineer involved with maintenance and repairs and was on the Fitzgerald a number of times, so I'm sure it hit him hard also, but light years away from level of the families' grief.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

The Sultan

The line between "profiting off a tragedy" and "using art to tell a story" is a thin one I guess.  Because there are countless examples of the latter that have not been described as the former.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on May 02, 2023, 10:43:26 AM
The line between "profiting off a tragedy" and "using art to tell a story" is a thin one I guess.  Because there are countless examples of the latter that have not been described as the former.

Just going from memory, but what I heard was that what the families found objectionable primarily was hearing the popular song being played on the radio. I do not recall objections about the profits, but that does not mean that was not also objectionable.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

"All of our answers are unencumbered by the thought process." NPR's Click and Clack of Car Talk.

The Sultan

Maybe because it was released so soon after the tragedy. The ship sank in November 1975 and the song hit the airwaves in the summer of 1976.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

MU1in77

I sure hope when he meets Ann in the after-life that he recalls her face.

Sir Lawrence

Quote from: tower912 on May 02, 2023, 06:16:10 AM
An old Irish melody.   Also used for 'Back Home in Derry'.

I know "Back Home in Derry" uses the same melody, but are you saying that Lightfoot copied an Irish melody?  If so, please share.  Not challenging, just curious.  By the way, "Say Nothing" is a fabulous book about the troubles if you want a fresh easy read on the subject.
Ludum habemus.

tower912

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Quote from: Sir Lawrence on May 02, 2023, 04:40:11 PM
I know "Back Home in Derry" uses the same melody, but are you saying that Lightfoot copied an Irish melody?  If so, please share.  Not challenging, just curious.  By the way, "Say Nothing" is a fabulous book about the troubles if you want a fresh easy read on the subject.

https://secondhandsongs.com/topic/77094?offset=0#m211951

Mr. Lightfoot claims it is.

https://www.awesomemitten.com/edmund-fitzgerald-song/
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Sir Lawrence

Ludum habemus.

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