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Author Topic: RIP Gordon Lightfoot  (Read 955 times)

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RIP Gordon Lightfoot
« on: May 01, 2023, 08:36:41 PM »
What a songwriter
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Re: RIP Gordon Lightfoot
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2023, 08:41:09 PM »
Sundown you better take care.
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Re: RIP Gordon Lightfoot
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2023, 10:46:32 PM »
Had listened to a lot of his songs recently

The Wreck of The Edmund Fitzgerald was a classic
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Re: RIP Gordon Lightfoot
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2023, 06:09:02 AM »
Had listened to a lot of his songs recently

The Wreck of The Edmund Fitzgerald was a classic

Used to drink $.80 Busch Light Drafts and listen to this on the jukebox at Listwan’s back in the day. Good memories

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Re: RIP Gordon Lightfoot
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2023, 06:16:10 AM »
An old Irish melody.   Also used for 'Back Home in Derry'.
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Re: RIP Gordon Lightfoot
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2023, 08:08:53 AM »
Sundown you better take care.

Song was about Cathy Smith, a famous groupie of sorts back in the day. She was in the bungalow with Belushi the day he died - may have been the one who concocted the 8 ball that killed him.

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Re: RIP Gordon Lightfoot
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2023, 08:34:46 AM »
Song was about Cathy Smith, a famous groupie of sorts back in the day. She was in the bungalow with Belushi the day he died - may have been the one who concocted the 8 ball that killed him.

She went to jail for it
“This is bar none atrocious.  Mitchell cannot shoot either.  What a pile of dung”

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Re: RIP Gordon Lightfoot
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2023, 09:09:26 AM »
She went to jail for it
And then deported, and now dead

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Re: RIP Gordon Lightfoot
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2023, 09:44:59 AM »
Had listened to a lot of his songs recently

The Wreck of The Edmund Fitzgerald was a classic

I thought it was a nice tribute, but I knew well a guy who worked in the Great Lakes shipping business at the time. He said the families of the men from the Fitzgerald were very upset about the song.
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Re: RIP Gordon Lightfoot
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2023, 09:48:10 AM »
I thought it was a nice tribute, but I knew well a guy who worked in the Great Lakes shipping business at the time. He said the families of the men from the Fitzgerald were very upset about the song.

I believe he gave proceeds to the families from the song
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Re: RIP Gordon Lightfoot
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2023, 09:52:41 AM »
I believe he gave proceeds to the families from the song

If so, glad to hear that. I was simply passing along what I heard from a guy in a position to know that there were families upset about the song.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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Re: RIP Gordon Lightfoot
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2023, 09:57:30 AM »
If so, glad to hear that. I was simply passing along what I heard from a guy in a position to know that there were families upset about the song.

I can see that and it would be difficult to hear that song

In some ways, profiting off the tragedy in song is questionable, though based on his songwriting, it certainly wasn’t meant to be
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Re: RIP Gordon Lightfoot
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2023, 10:37:33 AM »
I can see that and it would be difficult to hear that song

In some ways, profiting off the tragedy in song is questionable, though based on his songwriting, it certainly wasn’t meant to be

I think you nailed it. Lightfoot, I would guess, was probably surprised by the reaction.

My source worked on a number of Great Lake ships as an engineer involved with maintenance and repairs and was on the Fitzgerald a number of times, so I'm sure it hit him hard also, but light years away from level of the families' grief.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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Re: RIP Gordon Lightfoot
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2023, 10:43:26 AM »
The line between "profiting off a tragedy" and "using art to tell a story" is a thin one I guess.  Because there are countless examples of the latter that have not been described as the former.
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Re: RIP Gordon Lightfoot
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2023, 11:47:16 AM »
The line between "profiting off a tragedy" and "using art to tell a story" is a thin one I guess.  Because there are countless examples of the latter that have not been described as the former.

Just going from memory, but what I heard was that what the families found objectionable primarily was hearing the popular song being played on the radio. I do not recall objections about the profits, but that does not mean that was not also objectionable.
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Re: RIP Gordon Lightfoot
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2023, 11:51:10 AM »
Maybe because it was released so soon after the tragedy. The ship sank in November 1975 and the song hit the airwaves in the summer of 1976.
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Re: RIP Gordon Lightfoot
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2023, 02:15:41 PM »
I sure hope when he meets Ann in the after-life that he recalls her face.

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Re: RIP Gordon Lightfoot
« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2023, 04:40:11 PM »
An old Irish melody.   Also used for 'Back Home in Derry'.

I know "Back Home in Derry" uses the same melody, but are you saying that Lightfoot copied an Irish melody?  If so, please share.  Not challenging, just curious.  By the way, "Say Nothing" is a fabulous book about the troubles if you want a fresh easy read on the subject.
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Re: RIP Gordon Lightfoot
« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2023, 06:19:19 PM »
I know "Back Home in Derry" uses the same melody, but are you saying that Lightfoot copied an Irish melody?  If so, please share.  Not challenging, just curious.  By the way, "Say Nothing" is a fabulous book about the troubles if you want a fresh easy read on the subject.

https://secondhandsongs.com/topic/77094?offset=0#m211951

Mr. Lightfoot claims it is.

https://www.awesomemitten.com/edmund-fitzgerald-song/
« Last Edit: May 02, 2023, 06:23:16 PM by tower912 »
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Re: RIP Gordon Lightfoot
« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2023, 06:51:45 PM »
Thank you tower.
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