Tucker

[Jockey]

Heisy misses Tuckems already. When you need a fix, Newsmax is too weak.

[jficke13]

Carlson will find a platform.   I think the O'Reilly template fits here.  Although if Fox makes it a mission to make TC toxic, perhaps Olbermann would be more apt.

I predict the Daily Wire.

[Pakuni]

Yea, love him or hate him, he’s an intelligent dude and seems very savvy at the media politics game behind the scenes.  He also seems to have a hold on the kayfabe aspect of being a talking head more than O’Reilly did (constantly trumpeting “I’m a registered independent” is was one of the dumbest ongoing schticks).  And he’s not gotten to be completely unhinged like Olbermann or Glenn Beck yet.

I think he’s does the podcast/DIY route for a bit and then another big gig in a few years

It's this last part I have a hard time imagining.
What potential "big gig" is out there? Right now, there are three large platforms that sell political commentary: CNN, FOX and MSNBC. He's been fired by all three and I can't see any path back for him at any one of them.
So, where's this other gig? I could imagine him at a place like Newxmax or Daily Wire (as jficke suggests), but those aren't big gigs relative to what else is out there, unless you're also predicting a sea change in political media in the next few years. And I think he's way too toxic to land a show on s streamer like HBO (a la Maher/Oliver) or Apple (Stewart).

I don't think he disappears, but he, his audience and his influence will be much diminished.

[MU82]

Maybe he'll write books like his predecessor.

I could see "Killing O'Reilly" or "Killing Murdoch" in his future.

[jesmu84]

From the NYT's DealBook:

Two days after being fired from Fox News, Tucker Carlson emerged on Twitter … with a two-minute video that didn’t address his shocking ouster. But he may have offered a hint about what he’ll do next after his surprise exit from Rupert Murdoch’s media empire.

Carlson criticized the state of political discourse, saying, “both political parties and their donors have reached consensus on what benefits them and they actively collude to shut down any conversation about it.”

“Where can you still find Americans saying true things? There aren’t many places left,” Carlson added. “But there are some. And that’s enough.” He concluded with “See you soon,” suggesting that he may return to the public forum, either on his own or as part of some news media outlet.

More details have emerged about Carlson’s firing. The Times reports that just before Fox News’s defamation trial was set to begin, the Fox board belatedly learned more about highly offensive and crude remarks that the host had made privately — and that surfaced as part of the legal discovery process.

The full extent of what he said is still not known, but news outlets have challenged court-ordered redactions of the private messages, and the communications could still emerge in a lawsuit against Fox News filed by the voting software maker Smartmatic.

Numerous reports say Tucker was especially fond of using the c-word.

So it's either:

A. They're silencing me from speaking the truth

or

2. They fired an a-hole for being an a-hole to his staff/colleagues/boss

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Beck is the best becuase he's never even pretended to be anything but a grifter.  He's like a smarter, less meme-able Alex Jones.  Remember when for a minute he thought there was more money in going the remorseful, move to the middle route?  Then he realized that in fact there was more money in steering into insanity, so he went on a "I TAKE ALL MY APOLOGIES BACK" rampage.  A true American success story.

I have first hand knowledge Beck is nothing but a grifter and a complete d-bag to boot. 
He was a Top 40 DJ here in southern Connecticut and there's much more to that.............

[MU82]

I have first hand knowledge Beck is nothing but a grifter and a complete d-bag to boot. 
He was a Top 40 DJ here in southern Connecticut and there's much more to that.............

He's done a hell of a job of grifting, gotta give him that!

[jficke13]

It's this last part I have a hard time imagining.
What potential "big gig" is out there? Right now, there are three large platforms that sell political commentary: CNN, FOX and MSNBC. He's been fired by all three and I can't see any path back for him at any one of them.
So, where's this other gig? I could imagine him at a place like Newxmax or Daily Wire (as jficke suggests), but those aren't big gigs relative to what else is out there, unless you're also predicting a sea change in political media in the next few years. And I think he's way too toxic to land a show on s streamer like HBO (a la Maher/Oliver) or Apple (Stewart).

I don't think he disappears, but he, his audience and his influence will be much diminished.

So I'm cautiously optimistic that while he will not disappear, and his audience might actually *increase* in raw numbers, I think you are right that his influence will be much diminished.

Tucker was uniquely placed to be a vector to reach people a particular set of people: Mostly boomers, mostly not terminally online, conservative folks (even very conservative folks) mostly primed to be susceptible to his message but not already True True Believers. Sure there were probably some True True Believers in his audience. But think of a random late Middle Aged Dad or New Grandpa. This person is probably broadly unaware of the sea of crazy/fashy/Daily Wire stuff because that stuff exists mostly online, and unless it gets pushed across Middle Aged Dad's facebook page, he's not seeing it. But Tucker was really good at bundling up the online ecosphere stuff and repackaging it in a way that reached all those people who aren't consuming the Stephen Crowder/Matt Walsh podcast stuff.

So while I think Daily Wire pays a lot of money to Tucker to come onto their platform, and using their platform I bet he reaches more than a 3M audience number, it's a different audience. He will be preaching to the choir rather than spreading the stochastic terrorism gospel of libs of tiktok to virgin ears.

[Pakuni]

I predict the Daily Wire.

nm

[Spotcheck Billy]

according to the Lincoln Project, Tucker will run for president

[TSmith34, Inc.]

according to the Lincoln Project, Tucker will run for president

That would be fun. We'd get to see just how many Americans now embrace Russia and outright fascism.

But I think jficke's call of the Daily Wire is a good one. The platform has the perfect blend of outright misogyny, Christian Nationalism, and pseudo-intellectualism that Tuckems would slide in effortlessly like a greased pig.

[Uncle Rico]

That would be fun. We'd get to see just how many Americans now embrace Russia and outright fascism.

But I think jficke's call of the Daily Wire is a good one. The platform has the perfect blend of outright misogyny, Christian Nationalism, and pseudo-intellectualism that Tuckems would slide in effortlessly like a greased pig.

If Tucker runs, he’ll have to pay off Fox not to release their files on him

[TSmith34, Inc.]

If Tucker runs, he’ll have to pay off Fox not to release their files on him

Or pay them TO release the files. All of that content would be features not flaws in the primaries.

[Uncle Rico]

Or pay them TO release the files. All of that content would be features not flaws in the primaries.

That’s true.  May not matter

[JWags85]

It's this last part I have a hard time imagining.
What potential "big gig" is out there? Right now, there are three large platforms that sell political commentary: CNN, FOX and MSNBC. He's been fired by all three and I can't see any path back for him at any one of them.
So, where's this other gig? I could imagine him at a place like Newxmax or Daily Wire (as jficke suggests), but those aren't big gigs relative to what else is out there, unless you're also predicting a sea change in political media in the next few years. And I think he's way too toxic to land a show on s streamer like HBO (a la Maher/Oliver) or Apple (Stewart).

I don't think he disappears, but he, his audience and his influence will be much diminished.

That’s fair.  I obviously didn’t mean one of the legacy big 3 platforms.  I was thinking more of a streamer or some new major format political media, not something like Truth Social or The Blaze.

[Plaque Lives Matter!]

according to the Lincoln Project, Tucker will run for president

Grifters speculating on grifters

[WellsstreetWanderer]

That would be fun. We'd get to see just how many Americans now embrace Russia and outright fascism.

But I think jficke's call of the Daily Wire is a good one. The platform has the perfect blend of outright misogyny, Christian Nationalism, and pseudo-intellectualism that Tuckems would slide in effortlessly like a greased pig.

   The ones embracing fascism are the 29% who think Brandon is doing a good job and are ok with  weaponizing gubmint departments.

[Uncle Rico]

   The ones embracing fascism are the 29% who think Brandon is doing a good job and are ok with  weaponizing gubmint departments.

And drink Bud Lite and wear Nike shoes

[Jockey]

   The ones embracing fascism are the 29% who think Brandon is doing a good job and are ok with  weaponizing gubmint departments.

Sounds very Independent. “Weaponizing gubmint”? Repeating the Fox nuts does not prove your independence. Every political post you have ever made screams wingnut.

Maybe you can work ‘woke’ or ‘lame stream media’ into your next post.

But keep pretending

[muwarrior69]

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1651376097349578753

65 Million views.

[Uncle Rico]

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1651376097349578753

65 Million views.

Cancelled!  Sad!

[Jockey]

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1651376097349578753

65 Million views.

I love the people who said he is the one honest voice. De-lusional!

[TSmith34, Inc.]

   The ones embracing fascism are the 29% who think Brandon is doing a good job and are ok with  weaponizing gubmint departments.

[JWags85]

   The ones embracing fascism are the 29% who think Brandon is doing a good job and are ok with  weaponizing gubmint departments.

I’m the farthest thing from a Biden supporter or defender, but people who still call him Brandon and further perpetuate one of the lamest memes of the last few years are major red flags on any political topic

[Not A Serious Person]

Heisy misses Tuckems already. When you need a fix, Newsmax is too weak.

Good call ... again

I effectively gave up watching cable news years ago. I have watched less than one hour of all of them together since getting the 2020 election results.

Serious question ...

Does anyone here watch them? No wrong answers. Just curious.

A second serious question is, does any of this matter?  Do they still have any influence on the public narrative?