We could’ve won this tournament

[panda]

Does the title of national champion also mean "best team in the country"?

Luckiest

[Judge Smails]

Yes, the team that wins the tournament is the team that performed the best when it mattered against the best competition.

[jesmu84]

1. So now it’s just kind of a crapshoot? That was easy. Defend your opinion.

2. It doesn’t matter who I thought was the best team. That’s why they play the games - to find out.

It's significantly more of a crapshoot than the NBA/MLB/NHL. It's only slightly more than the NFL due to the # of teams.

It's all based on probabilities and statistics.

If you can't understand, or unwilling to admit, that a single elimination tournament has more variability/irregularities than a multi-game series tournament, then you're just being obtuse intentionally.

[jesmu84]

Yes, the team that wins the tournament is the team that performed the best when it mattered against the best competition.

Does "performed the best when it mattered" mean the best team?

[5DollarPitcher]

Does the title of national champion also mean "best team in the country"?

Definitionally, yes.

They achieved the objective of basketball (scoring more points than the other team) more proficiently than anyone else in a field of the best performing regular season teams.

[5DollarPitcher]

Does "performed the best when it mattered" mean the best team?

Literally yes.

[5DollarPitcher]

It's significantly more of a crapshoot than the NBA/MLB/NHL. It's only slightly more than the NFL due to the # of teams.

It's all based on probabilities and statistics.

If you can't understand, or unwilling to admit, that a single elimination tournament has more variability/irregularities than a multi-game series tournament, then you're just being obtuse intentionally.

No one said there isn’t more variability or irregularity than other playoff formats. You just constructed that straw man.

The tournament is not a crapshoot.

[jesmu84]

No one said there isn’t more variability or irregularity than other playoff formats. You just constructed that straw man.

The tournament is not a crapshoot.

That's EXACTLY what people mean when they say the tournament is a crapshoot.

Thanks for agreeing with all of us.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Scoop:  how dare you question this team and troll with your low expectations.  This team is a legit winner.

Also Scoop:  how dare you question this team with your high expectations.  They are young and winning is a crapshoot.  This team shouldn’t be expected to win yet.

Scoopers gonna scoop.

I'd say, "Troll on!" but you are just so pathetically bad at it, it makes us all cringe for you.

[brewcity77]

Y’all are insane with this takes. Feel like a coping mechanism more than anything.

If Marquette goes to the Elite 8 next year, and finished say, third in conference this season will be a blip on the radar.

Not a coping mechanism and not a chance. The tourney is great but it's a crapshoot. I'm not overwhelmingly impressed by 2014 Dayton, 2016 Notre Dame, or 2021 USC.

What we did this year is an indicator of excellence. True excellence earned over months of play. The tourney is fun, but it's the worst way to determine the best team.   Long run I want the NCAA success, but this season was awesome. 2003 is the only season in my fandom I'd put ahead of this, and that's the regular season/Final Four combo. Night after night Fiserv was awesome. I wouldn't trade that for anything less than a Final Four.

[Uncle Rico]

That's EXACTLY what people mean when they say the tournament is a crapshoot.

Thanks for agreeing with all of us.

😂

[5DollarPitcher]

That's EXACTLY what people mean when they say the tournament is a crapshoot.

Thanks for agreeing with all of us.

Except crapshoot, definitionally, means fully random as the word relates to shooting dice in a game of craps.

The NCAA tournament is nowhere near the randomness of a crapshoot. Which is what I assume people mean when they say the word “crapshoot”.

[Uncle Rico]

Except crapshoot, definitionally, means fully random as the word relates to shooting dice in a game of craps.

The NCAA tournament is nowhere near the randomness of a crapshoot. Which is what I assume people mean when they say the word “crapshoot”.

Yes it is

[jesmu84]

Except crapshoot, definitionally, means fully random as the word relates to shooting dice in a game of craps.

The NCAA tournament is nowhere near the randomness of a crapshoot. Which is what I assume people mean when they say the word “crapshoot”.

"Definitionally" has been overused today.

I'm glad there's never been a single instance in all of history where a word is used outside of whatever definition you or the dictionary have for it.

[5DollarPitcher]

Yes it is

Now you’re just being intentionally moronic 😂

[5DollarPitcher]

"Definitionally" has been overused today.

I'm glad there's never been a single instance in all of history where a word is used outside of whatever definition you or the dictionary have for it.

Because you use words and then make arguments that don’t align with the definition of the words you are using.

That seems to be the flaw in your argument here.

[Uncle Rico]

Now you’re just being intentionally moronic 😂

Trust me, you’ve met the board quota

[5DollarPitcher]

Trust me, you’ve met the board quota

Love when your argument falls apart so you just go to condescending snark. It’s incredible.

[brewcity77]

Except crapshoot, definitionally, means fully random as the word relates to shooting dice in a game of craps.

Except craps itself isn't fully random. 7 is the target number because it's the most common throw with the most combinations on the dice.

Crapshoot isn't total randomness, it's an acknowledgment that's there's chance involved. It's something with more variability or irregularity. Just like you said.

[Uncle Rico]

Love when your argument falls apart so you just go to condescending snark. It’s incredible.

My argument hasn’t fallen apart.  The tournament is a crapshoot.  It’s not coping to call it that, it’s truth.  I’m right and you’re wrong.  Simple as that.

[5DollarPitcher]

Except craps itself isn't fully random. 7 is the target number because it's the most common throw with the most combinations on the dice.

Crapshoot isn't total randomness, it's an acknowledgment that's there's chance involved. It's something with more variability or irregularity. Just like you said.

It is fully random what shows up on the dice when you throw them. There are more combinations of faces that can make a 7 but the faces that come up are fully random.

Which is why you can bet on things like a hard or soft number.

The NCAA tournament is not a crapshoot.

[Uncle Rico]

It is fully random what shows up on the dice when you throw them. There are more combinations of faces that can make a 7 but the faces that come up are fully random.

Which is why you can bet on things like a hard or soft number.

The NCAA tournament is not a crapshoot.

It is a crapshoot.

[5DollarPitcher]

My argument hasn’t fallen apart.  The tournament is a crapshoot.  It’s not coping to call it that, it’s truth.  I’m right and you’re wrong.  Simple as that.

It’s not. Not only are you wrong, you don’t even understand your own argument. It sucks that Marquette lost but calling it random chance is a cope by you.

[FartyEightHours]

Ben Gold will be an all-American next year and the winner of the NCAA tournament is entirely random.  Things I’ve learned this March.

[5DollarPitcher]

It is a crapshoot.

Nice thesis - where’s the rest?