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Author Topic: Offseason thoughts  (Read 7285 times)

tower912

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Offseason thoughts
« on: March 19, 2023, 08:01:44 PM »
1.  TKo has thumb surgery
2.  I am not looking for help from the portal.    The question is who leaves.
3.   Development.   (all contingent on the following players staying, none of which is guaranteed)
     (A)  Oso develops a foul line jumper
     (B)   Omax works on his balance and his jumper.    Also finishing straight line drives through contact
     (C)  Tyler has a few weeks to work on his right hand
     (D)  Stevie's jumper
      (E)  Ben lives in the weight room.  With his buddy Chase.   
4.   Get the freshmen on campus.   
5.   Keep as much of the band together as possible. 
6.   The coaches did a deep dive into why last year's team faded down the stretch and lost so badly to UNC.  This year's deep dive will be to figure out how MSU's defense was so effective.   
7.  Get Shaka some more colorful polos.    Once they have them, make them available to the general public. 

There are far fewer unknowns than there were a year ago.    The coaches can point to 29-7 as proof of concept that development and team chemistry work.     IMO, the challenge will be to continue the transition into grown-ass men bodies as well as integrating Emarion and the freshman into the culture.       
     
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Re: Offseason thoughts
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2023, 08:02:23 PM »
For the love of god get someone who can rebound.

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Re: Offseason thoughts
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2023, 08:05:41 PM »
Need to recruit the core guys back and find soft landings for Ellis and Itejere. Creates room for one transfer that needs to be a big

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Re: Offseason thoughts
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2023, 08:06:17 PM »
For the love of god get someone who can rebound.
Agree tired of being this small team who can’t rebound. Get one bruiser

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Re: Offseason thoughts
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2023, 08:08:02 PM »
1.  TKo has thumb surgery
2.  I am not looking for help from the portal.    The question is who leaves.
3.   Development.   (all contingent on the following players staying, none of which is guaranteed)
     (A)  Oso develops a foul line jumper
     (B)   Omax works on his balance and his jumper.    Also finishing straight line drives through contact
     (C)  Tyler has a few weeks to work on his right hand
     (D)  Stevie's jumper
      (E)  Ben lives in the weight room.  With his buddy Chase.   
4.   Get the freshmen on campus.   
5.   Keep as much of the band together as possible. 
6.   The coaches did a deep dive into why last year's team faded down the stretch and lost so badly to UNC.  This year's deep dive will be to figure out how MSU's defense was so effective.   
7.  Get Shaka some more colorful polos.    Once they have them, make them available to the general public. 

There are far fewer unknowns than there were a year ago.    The coaches can point to 29-7 as proof of concept that development and team chemistry work.     IMO, the challenge will be to continue the transition into grown-ass men bodies as well as integrating Emarion and the freshman into the culture.       
     

#1 on this list has to be addressing the rebounding issue.  Has been a major problem for this team for two years.  Whether it be conceptually, physically or mentally, we won't go far in March until it is solved.

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Re: Offseason thoughts
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2023, 08:08:31 PM »
You keep praising MSU’s defensive effort, they were fine defensively. Majority of MU turnovers were completely unforced.

I’d figure out a rotation that can slow down dribble drives by the opponent in crunch time. MU’s season ended because of that more than anything else.

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Re: Offseason thoughts
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2023, 08:10:32 PM »
You keep praising MSU’s defensive effort, they were fine defensively. Majority of MU turnovers were completely unforced.

I’d figure out a rotation that can slow down dribble drives by the opponent in crunch time. MU’s season ended because of that more than anything else.
This.

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Re: Offseason thoughts
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2023, 08:11:40 PM »
Need to recruit the core guys back and find soft landings for Ellis and Itejere. Creates room for one transfer that needs to be a big

I don’t think Ellis leaves. Itejere… I assume he’ll be gone.

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Re: Offseason thoughts
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2023, 08:13:12 PM »
We are going to continue to disagree, dish.    Which is fine.   We saw it differently.    I acknowledge that MU was sloppy and careless.   But I also think MSU directly and indirectly contributed to it.    And you're not going to change my mind.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Re: Offseason thoughts
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2023, 08:13:23 PM »
Curious to see next season's 13 scholarship.roster.

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Re: Offseason thoughts
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2023, 08:15:17 PM »
-Revisit topic in a month or so.

-Too early, the staff needs to sit down with each player and determine what their thoughts are, want to stay or if they are told they are not staying.  Every year there has been a surprise. 

-Many posters said all year Omax is leaving for draft and will probably be on NBA roster.  I do not see that happening and I really do not want him to leave.  He improved tremendously over last year and needs to work on a few things before a professional career somewhere.

-General terms, a backup to Oso.  The incoming two guards can fight it out with whoever returns for backup roles.

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Re: Offseason thoughts
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2023, 08:16:38 PM »
Joplin has to figure out what he can do on drives, has no moves, needs to get quicker, more under control.  Has zero hops.

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Re: Offseason thoughts
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2023, 08:16:51 PM »
We are going to continue to disagree, dish.    Which is fine.   We saw it differently.    I acknowledge that MU was sloppy and careless.   But I also think MSU directly and indirectly contributed to it.    And you're not going to change my mind.

That’s fair.

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Re: Offseason thoughts
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2023, 08:16:54 PM »
We are going to continue to disagree, dish.    Which is fine.   We saw it differently.    I acknowledge that MU was sloppy and careless.   But I also think MSU directly and indirectly contributed to it.    And you're not going to change my mind.
I agree. They’re more athletic than us 1-3 and it showed. They could slow us down without helping.

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Re: Offseason thoughts
« Reply #14 on: March 19, 2023, 08:18:00 PM »
1.  TKo has thumb surgery
2.  I am not looking for help from the portal.    The question is who leaves.
3.   Development.   (all contingent on the following players staying, none of which is guaranteed)
     (A)  Oso develops a foul line jumper
     (B)   Omax works on his balance and his jumper.    Also finishing straight line drives through contact
     (C)  Tyler has a few weeks to work on his right hand
     (D)  Stevie's jumper
      (E)  Ben lives in the weight room.  With his buddy Chase.   
4.   Get the freshmen on campus.   
5.   Keep as much of the band together as possible. 
6.   The coaches did a deep dive into why last year's team faded down the stretch and lost so badly to UNC.  This year's deep dive will be to figure out how MSU's defense was so effective.   
7.  Get Shaka some more colorful polos.    Once they have them, make them available to the general public. 

There are far fewer unknowns than there were a year ago.    The coaches can point to 29-7 as proof of concept that development and team chemistry work.     IMO, the challenge will be to continue the transition into grown-ass men bodies as well as integrating Emarion and the freshman into the culture.       
     
1. Possibility……no mention anywhere of that…seems like a quick reaction excuse for poor play.
2. Your boy.
3A. You know more than most Tower, this offense doesn’t need an Oso jumper from 15’.
Hell, this offense doesn’t utilize a Kam or Jop foul line jumper. Now if you said, Oso could develop a trailer three….then myself and the MU coaches wiuld agree with you.
3C. A few weeks?…..after surgery.
The rest I agree with and said so after the loss.
Biggest concern for me is keeping the staff and players together for next year.
Kam is the top of that list……

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Re: Offseason thoughts
« Reply #15 on: March 19, 2023, 08:19:01 PM »
I don't have much to add right now except that I am very optimistic for next year and appreciate all that this team gave us, right to the end.  Can't wait to see how things shake out! 

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Re: Offseason thoughts
« Reply #16 on: March 19, 2023, 08:19:51 PM »
We need to rebound better and get some of the guys to develop mid range jumpers.

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Re: Offseason thoughts
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2023, 08:20:32 PM »
Pump the brakes on the thumb surgery. Unless you have info the rest of us don't

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Re: Offseason thoughts
« Reply #18 on: March 19, 2023, 08:21:02 PM »
1. Possibility……no mention anywhere of that…seems like a quick reaction excuse for poor play.
2. Your boy.
3A. You know more than most Tower, this offense doesn’t need an Oso jumper from 15’.
Hell, this offense doesn’t utilize a Kam or Jop foul line jumper. Now if you said, Oso could develop a trailer three….then myself and the MU coaches wiuld agree with you.
3C. A few weeks?…..after surgery.
The rest I agree with and said so after the loss.
Biggest concern for me is keeping the staff and players together for next year.
Kam is the top of that list……
I have a boy?    Oh, you mean Keeyan.   Perhaps.   I have a number of other players in mind, too, for various reasons,  like playing time, NIL and foreign-born players, and the quality of the incoming freshmen.    We'll see. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Re: Offseason thoughts
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2023, 08:21:44 PM »
I think one person that could possibly transfer that hasn’t really been discussed is Joplin.

He can probably be a starter on a lot of teams, but if everyone stays, will more than likely be coming off the bench again next season.

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Re: Offseason thoughts
« Reply #20 on: March 19, 2023, 08:22:44 PM »
I think one person that could possibly transfer that hasn’t really been discussed is Joplin.

He can probably be a starter on a lot of teams, but if everyone stays, will more than likely be coming off the bench again next season.

He followed Shaka from Texas and is tight with Cam. 
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

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Re: Offseason thoughts
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2023, 08:23:57 PM »
Both are true.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Re: Offseason thoughts
« Reply #22 on: March 19, 2023, 08:24:03 PM »
You guys are all so quick to send everyone packing lol.

We value relationships.

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Re: Offseason thoughts
« Reply #23 on: March 19, 2023, 08:25:22 PM »
I think one person that could possibly transfer that hasn’t really been discussed is Joplin.

He can probably be a starter on a lot of teams, but if everyone stays, will more than likely be coming off the bench again next season.

Could very well be that it's an either/or for him and Omax. Jop could be a starting 4 and showed well defensively down the stretch, but he's not nearly the athlete Omax is

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Re: Offseason thoughts
« Reply #24 on: March 19, 2023, 08:25:34 PM »
You guys are all so quick to send everyone packing lol.

We value relationships.

https://twitter.com/MUWireSports/status/1637621104339566593?t=ommSofmOSufdQ67_ZIq9bg&s=19

Damn, that hurt to watch

 

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