NCAA Tournament

[MuggsyB]

Clearly 2 of the best 4 teams in college basketball. No randomness at all. That's why 5BuckChuck and millions of others had them in the Final Four in their brackets.

I think you're unfairly attacking the 🦉 🦉.

[Uncle Rico]

Mac didn't deserve it. Not a great end of game coach. He once was up 5 at home with 1 second against Wojo...and lost.

He owns Shaka, however

[Johnny B]

Clearly 2 of the best 4 teams in college basketball. No randomness at all. That's why 5BuckChuck and millions of others had them in the Final Four in their brackets.

The crap shoot argument is like 70% true. However ussally the best teams make it to the end. It's still a disappointment for Marquette. Don't see how it's debatable

[brewcity77]

Yes it did, the shot clock reset, SDSU ball out of bounds, essentially meaning Creighton was playing for overtime or a loss.

You're thinking of the shooting/7th team foul, I'm talking about the dumb intentional sixth foul.

That had already been addressed and discussed in the thread.

[wisblue]

Didn't Creighton intentionally foul Oso too, and cost them the game?

Can't say that it cost them the game but it cost them two points at a pivotal stage of the game.

Maybe if they hadn't fouled MU would have scored 3 on the possession.

[Uncle Rico]

The crap shoot argument is like 70% true. However ussally the best teams make it to the end. It's still a disappointment for Marquette. Don't see how it's debatable

I think this is where certain people are misinterpreting how people are reacting to Marquette's loss last Sunday.

Everyone is disappointed they lost.  It was a lost opportunity.  However, that doesn't mean you can't enjoy what the season was. 

[tower912]

He owns Shaka, however

He did twice this year.

Two mid majors playing each other in the final four.  How predictable.

[Dish]

That had already been addressed and discussed in the thread.

Brew, I love you, but what are you talking about? That play just happened like 5 minutes ago.

[82fanatic]

Wtf???!?? How do these nut job refs do that. Clearly still .3 ish on the clock when the ball hits the floor. Wtf?!?!?!,

"They brought out a stop watch!"   
They have the abacus warmed up for the final four !   

[Shooter McGavin]

Being able to take tough twos (midrange) against elite defenses seems like a must.  Not the ideal shots for 99% of the season but holy cow were they necessary in the Creighton SDST game. 

[DoctorV]

Pretty tough call to make in that moment.

I usually don't get ticked off at the refs as much as most do, but if I was a Creighton fan or if that call went against Marquette in a similar situation I would be livid.

Sure there was contact, but the way the game had been called that's a brutal call to eliminate a team from the tournament instead of giving them a chance to make the FF in OT

[wisblue]

The 3 teams in the Final Four so far were numbers 13, 22, and 29 on the NCAA seed list.

[brewcity77]

Brew, I love you, but what are you talking about? That play just happened like 5 minutes ago.

There had been discussion of that foul and that it was a bad coaching decision. There was reaction to the next foul already. In context of a quick moving thread, that poor decision by McDermott was old news.

[Dish]

There had been discussion of that foul and that it was a bad coaching decision. There was reaction to the next foul already. In context of a quick moving thread, that poor decision by McDermott was old news.

Ok...

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[MU82]

The crap shoot argument is like 70% true. However ussally the best teams make it to the end. It's still a disappointment for Marquette. Don't see how it's debatable

How many Marquette fans do you know who weren't disappointed with the way our season ended? Who is debating it?

I think this is where certain people are misinterpreting how people are reacting to Marquette's loss last Sunday.

Everyone is disappointed they lost.  It was a lost opportunity.  However, that doesn't mean you can't enjoy what the season was. 

Exactly.

[wisblue]

Wtf???!?? How do these nut job refs do that. Clearly still .3 ish on the clock when the ball hits the floor. Wtf?!?!?!,

They said they pulled out a stopwatch. Must have concluded that there was as much of a delay starting the clock when the ball was touched as there was stopping it when the ball hit the floor.

It looked like it would have been SDSUs ball, so barring a brain fart play like Creighton pulled against MU a few years ago there's no way Creighton could have won. Just throw the ball at or to anyone standing in bounds, even an opponent.

[MuggsyB]

Being able to take tough twos (midrange) against elite defenses seems like a must.  Not the ideal shots for 99% of the season but holy cow were they necessary in the Creighton SDST game.

I've consistently made the argument that a wide open 12-15 footer is a better shot than a contested 3.  Most disagree with me but throughout the tournament I've watched teams win by having that shot in their arsenal. 

[Uncle Rico]

I've consistently made the argument that a wide open 12-15 footer is a better shot than a contested 3.  Most disagree with me but throughout the tournament I've watched teams win by having that shot in their arsenal.

SDSU shot 37%

[Lennys Tap]

Yes it did, the shot clock reset, SDSU ball out of bounds, essentially meaning Creighton was playing for overtime or a loss.

You're thinking of the shooting/7th team foul, I'm talking about the dumb intentional sixth foul.

Yep.

Incredibly dumb coaching (almost as bad as Wojo not knowing the game score) followed by a ticky tack foul call. Of course if Creighton could have made 1 of 10 from 3 instead of zero (in the 2nd half) none of that would have mattered.

[MuggsyB]

SDSU shot 37%

They're a terrible offensive team that's not my point. 

[wisblue]

I hope Miami beats Texas for a few reasons:

1.it would be fun to see the Big 12 excluded from the F4.

2. Texas going to the F4 would just add more fuel to the Shaka haters. I can hear them saying "Texas had to get rid of Smart to have NCAA success".

3. I don't like Texas.

[MU82]

Of course if Creighton could have made 1 of 10 from 3 instead of zero (in the 2nd half) none of that would have mattered.

Yessir. Between their inability to execute, their inability to shoot and their crud coaching, Creighton didn't earn much sympathy for the way the game ended.

[Nukem2]

I hope Miami beats Texas for a few reasons:

1.it would be fun to see the Big 12 excluded from the F4.

2. Texas going to the F4 would just add more fuel to the Shaka haters. I can hear them saying "Texas had to get rid of Smart to have NCAA success".

3. I don't like Texas.

All of this.

[mugrad_89]

I've consistently made the argument that a wide open 12-15 footer is a better shot than a contested 3.  Most disagree with me but throughout the tournament I've watched teams win by having that shot in their arsenal.

Muggsy - I think we might be the only ones here who think that's a good idea.  No one is saying add the mid range game by subtracting something else.

[MuggsyB]

I hope Miami beats Texas for a few reasons:

1.it would be fun to see the Big 12 excluded from the F4.

2. Texas going to the F4 would just add more fuel to the Shaka haters. I can hear them saying "Texas had to get rid of Smart to have NCAA success".

3. I don't like Texas.

This is a tough one......I still remember the moronic comments Larranaga made when we punked them in 2013.