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Furman makes its Mark.






Too soon?
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Quote from: Jockey on March 16, 2023, 01:53:43 PM
Tony Bennett is the most overrated coach in America. There is a reason Virginia was the 1st team to lose to a #16 seed.

The only top 4 seed that I had losing in round 1.

If Tony brought me a national championship like he did Virginia, I'd let it slide
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Fun fact:

Since Sam Hauser arrived on campus, Virginia hasn't won a NCAA Tournament game.

It's fair to ask, is he a program killer?
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Quote from: MuggsyB on March 16, 2023, 01:54:56 PM
I repeat:  HAVE WE UNDERESTIMATED THE PALADINS?????  :)

No, that was quite literally a collapse by Virginia.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

MuggsyB

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 16, 2023, 01:59:10 PM
No, that was quite literally a collapse by Virginia.

Okay.  I trust you are right. 

Pakuni

Unless I'm mistaken, Virginia had a timeout available there. Unbelievable.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 16, 2023, 02:00:03 PM
Okay.  I trust you are right.

Are you not even watching the games?!?!?!
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Jockey

Quote from: MuggsyB on March 16, 2023, 01:54:56 PM
I repeat:  HAVE WE UNDERESTIMATED THE PALADINS?????  :)

No.

People overrated UVA.

wisblue

Quote from: Pakuni on March 16, 2023, 02:00:46 PM
Unless I'm mistaken, Virginia had a timeout available there. Unbelievable.

They did. Huge blunder.

Then Furman hit the shot from the Jordan Poole Memorial spot on the floor.

MuggsyB

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on March 16, 2023, 02:01:37 PM
Are you not even watching the games?!?!?!

I'm following while working. 

lostpassword

Quote from: Pakuni on March 16, 2023, 02:00:46 PM
Unless I'm mistaken, Virginia had a timeout available there. Unbelievable.

It looks like Clark was just tossing it in blind desparation... not even directed toward the UV player on the other end.  That makes having a timeout even more criminal.  It was a total prayer.

Mu8891

Horrible play by UVA guard ...

He had a TIME OUT !?  He also could have just held the ball, as there were less than 10 secs to play

I don't mind seeing Bennett fall on his face again... lol

Jockey

Quote from: Bo Ryan's Massage Therapist on March 16, 2023, 01:56:47 PM
If Tony brought me a national championship like he did Virginia, I'd let it slide

I'd say that the 5 guys on the team who made it to the NBA had more to do with it than Bennett.

JWags85

Quote from: Jockey on March 16, 2023, 01:53:43 PM
Tony Bennett is the most overrated coach in America. There is a reason Virginia was the 1st team to lose to a #16 seed.

The only top 4 seed that I had losing in round 1.

I'll add some nuance.  I think Tony Bennett is a very good coach.  I think the issue is he coaches and teaches a TERRIBLE, outdated style of basketball.  Which is glaringly bad in one-and-done type scenarios.

Literally just texted my friend..

UVA is like "we have better players and a better team, lets just bludgeon inferior teams"..."nah, lets control the game as slow as possible and limit possessions so even bad teams can remain close if they score more than 50."

Bennett has been there 14 seasons.  In the 12 seasons since they first made the tourney under him, besides the title season, they've made the NIT as many times as they've made the second weekend (twice).  7 tourney appearances, none lower than a 5 seed, and 2 second weekends, one of which was as a 1 who promptly lost in the S16 to MSU.

After all that, I guess I agree, cause he's overrated to the extent that he can't see that his system is awful in March.  But he may be underrated cause I have NO clue how he gets top ranked kids to want to play that style of basketball.

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Quote from: MuggsyB on March 16, 2023, 02:03:20 PM
I'm following while working.

Are you sure working while following isn't more accurate?  ;D
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2-0 so far. I didn't have faith in either West or East Virginia
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Jockey

Quote from: JWags85 on March 16, 2023, 02:14:03 PM
I'll add some nuance.  I think Tony Bennett is a very good coach.  I think the issue is he coaches and teaches a TERRIBLE, outdated style of basketball.  Which is glaringly bad in one-and-done type scenarios.

Literally just texted my friend..

UVA is like "we have better players and a better team, lets just bludgeon inferior teams"..."nah, lets control the game as slow as possible and limit possessions so even bad teams can remain close if they score more than 50."

Bennett has been there 14 seasons.  In the 12 seasons since they first made the tourney under him, besides the title season, they've made the NIT as many times as they've made the second weekend (twice).  7 tourney appearances, none lower than a 5 seed, and 2 second weekends, one of which was as a 1 who promptly lost in the S16 to MSU.

After all that, I guess I agree, cause he's overrated to the extent that he can't see that his system is awful in March.  But he may be underrated cause I have NO clue how he gets top ranked kids to want to play that style of basketball.

Of course I used a bit of hyperbole in my remarks, but it's funny cuz I texted a buddy with exactly the same sentiment as you did. I've never seen a team pass up so many open shots early in the clock to get a rushed mid-range late.

The ironic thing is that Al often did the same thing, but was more flexible.

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Dish

As great as the tournament is, a Thursday early window upset, with a late game winning 3, always makes the rest of this weekend that much sweeter.

Jockey

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on March 16, 2023, 02:20:06 PM
2-0 so far. I didn't have faith in either West or East Virginia

I screwed up on WVU. My next upset is Utah State.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: DegenerateDish on March 16, 2023, 02:22:43 PM
As great as the tournament is, a Thursday early window upset, with a late game winning 3, always makes the rest of this weekend that much sweeter.

Thats very true.

Its just good to get one early to get the madness feeling going.

especially with 2 1 seeds in the first 5 tip offs. If the other games were boring/predictable it drags momentum a bit.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Scoop Snoop

It's deja vu all over again, in the immortal words of Yogi Berra- in 2021, #4 UVA lost to #13 Ohio.
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PGsHeroes32

I get it, each year is different and resumes/metrics are what they are

But at some point common sense has to prevail.

Playing 18 or 20(whatever it is) games against Mountain west teams does not make you good. This league is bad.

Continually prove they are not ready
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

JWags85

Quote from: Jockey on March 16, 2023, 02:21:34 PM
Of course I used a bit of hyperbole in my remarks, but it's funny cuz I texted a buddy with exactly the same sentiment as you did. I've never seen a team pass up so many open shots early in the clock to get a rushed mid-range late.

The ironic thing is that Al often did the same thing, but was more flexible.

I don't enjoy watching it, but I get it to a certain extent late in games (eg: UCLA).  But UVA does it all damn game long and its terrible.  Just miserable basketball.

Watching Missouri, I remember MU missing out on Noah Carter and, beyond being totally happy with what we got instead, he's just not impressive at all at this level.  I don't think he'd crack the rotation.

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